It looks as though bond takes the glock from one of Silva's men; note the he's being covered with a Glock while Silva is firing
the LePage dueling pistol.
As to the PPK/s signature gun, the gun in the photo looks like a standard PPK with a prop grip,which looks bulky. All a PPK/s is a PPK slide and barrel put on a PP frame. This was done by Walther back in 1968 so they could import a PPK-type into the US to comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968 import point system. the original PPK being 1/10 of an inch too short to comply. Most of them were chambered in .380 ACP, or 9 mm Short(this is not 9mm Parabellum/Luger, which is what Glocks, SIGs, Brownings, and Walther P99 are chambered in), since the .380 was preferred over the .32 ACP/7.65mm. Ironically, Walther no longer manufactures the
PPK; it is,or was, licensed to S&W in the USA and to FEG in Hungary.You can't import a PPK into the US, but you can make them...
I don't like this new PPK/s with the silly prop grip. It seems to gimmicky all too soon for the new Bond. Strange how he's still issued the old warhorse of a pistol instead of something new. But the retrofit is just too out there, it looks like something from a sci-fi flick with limited weapon props.
I don't like this new PPK/s with the silly prop grip. It seems to gimmicky all too soon for the new Bond. Strange how he's still issued the old warhorse of a pistol instead of something new. But the retrofit is just too out there, it looks like something from a sci-fi flick with limited weapon props.
I guess they are trying to be iconic and honor tradition while putting a modern touch on it.
I'm no weapons expert by any stretch but I'm sure that there are numerous small pistols being produced today
that would be superior to the PPK....but this is a Bond film and EON has opted for tradition in this instance.
I don't like this new PPK/s with the silly prop grip. It seems to gimmicky all too soon for the new Bond. Strange how he's still issued the old warhorse of a pistol instead of something new. But the retrofit is just too out there, it looks like something from a sci-fi flick with limited weapon props.
I guess they are trying to be iconic and honor tradition while putting a modern touch on it.
I'm no weapons expert by any stretch but I'm sure that there are numerous small pistols being produced today
that would be superior to the PPK....but this is a Bond film and EON has opted for tradition in this instance.
I think some might regard the PPK as old hat these days, 6+1 rounds of 7.65mm aint much fire power, where as this PPK/S Q hands over has an extra round and its in 9mm, giving it a bit more of a kick.
I would assume that EoN are trying to keep Bond traditional, but with an updated twist to make things seem a little more realistic. The larger grip of PPK/S would probably fit DC's mitt better as the PPK fits me perfectly, whereas DC's hands must be bigger than my girly ones.
Usually when someone says 9mm they are referring to the 9x19 (aka 9mm Lugar, 9mm Parabellum) vs the 9x17 (aka 9mm Kurz/Corto/Short, .380ACP). I believe Minigeff was referencing the 9x19.
Having shot the 9mm K PPK quite often, it would be literally a handful in 9X19. The increased grip size of the modified PPK pictured would help this though, but the overall bulk of the weapon would mean you could carry a small double stack magazine 9X19 thus increasing available ammo with little or no impact on concealability vs the modified PPK.
I am also not a fan of increased complexity with the increased potential for failure this brings to the table. A dead battery for example would make the weapon unusable.
Regarding Bond's dress, it looks like the formality of the past is history. In some respects I miss this and in some it is nice to see Bond moving into the present.
I have numerous guns and calibers...the Walther PPK is very unreliable, jams often, low powered and heavy for a small gun . Much better choices in the Walther line
I have numerous guns and calibers...the Walther PPK is very unreliable, jams often, low powered and heavy for a small gun . Much better choices in the Walther line
Are you sure that you have an Ulm Walther made in Germany and not a licensed S&W?
The PPK has been the standard weapon for many police forces all over the world BECAUSE it is so reliable.
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I have a S&W licensed PPK in 9mm K and fire it all the time. It has yet to fail to operate. I have heard they do not like to be limp wristed though. Since the PPK is recoil operated holding it loosely tends to absorb the force of the recoil not allowing the slide to operate with the force required to properly eject a spent case and chamber the next round.
I have a S&W licensed PPK in 9mm K and fire it all the time. It has yet to fail to operate. I have heard they do not like to be limp wristed though. Since the PPK is recoil operated holding it loosely tends to absorb the force of the recoil not allowing the slide to operate with the force required to properly eject a spent case and chamber the next round.
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I have a S&W licensed PPK in 9mm K and fire it all the time. It has yet to fail to operate. I have heard they do not like to be limp wristed though. Since the PPK is recoil operated holding it loosely tends to absorb the force of the recoil not allowing the slide to operate with the force required to properly eject a spent case and chamber the next round.
Well, my S&W Walther had numerous missfires the firs and only time I shot it. Not limp wristed either I have heard the same thing from many many people
The design is to square for it to be a P99. I'm quite sure imfdb are wrong. Looks like a Glock in the image and trailer.
Look at the back of the gun, clearly shows it's not a P99. I think they just assumed it was a P99 since Bond uses it.
The skyfall page at the IMFDB is totally speculation. Ok, so the glock and H&K hardware is pretty true as we can see them quite clearly, however, the pachmayr grips claim is totally incorrect. The Q branch grip is nothing like the pachmayr ones.
The same article also claims that the P99 is used (which is still unconfirmed) and that the unknown sniper rifle is used by Bond, which is clearly isn't.
There's similar speculation going on in the Memrobilia and collecting forum, the PPK/S thread.
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IMFDB is a great resource however the thing to take into account is the entries & disclosures are by you and I and we are not always correct. I have known industry professionals who have corrected inaccuracies only to have the person who posted the error log back on and change it back & those professionals are the ones who put the weapons in the actor in questions hand in the first place. In the case of this debate, yes there is a Glock in the scene in question however is DC holding a P99 (Casino Royale type) or an H&K USP? who knows. The front profile of the trigger guard looks like a P99 but then again it could be a USP? or something else none of us has considered. Perhaps trailer#3 will answer this question.
Hi guys,
IMFDB is a great resource however the thing to take into account is the entries & disclosures are by you and I and we are not always correct. I have known industry professionals who have corrected inaccuracies only to have the person who posted the error log back on and change it back & those professionals are the ones who put the weapons in the actor in questions hand in the first place. In the case of this debate, yes there is a Glock in the scene in question however is DC holding a P99 (Casino Royale type) or an H&K USP? who knows. The front profile of the trigger guard looks like a P99 but then again it could be a USP? or something else none of us has considered. Perhaps trailer#3 will answer this question.
The PPK has been the standard weapon for many police forces all over the world BECAUSE it is so reliable.
My Walther PPK is a .380, and is one of the little-regarded Interarms-manufactured ones from the early 1990s...but the only jams I've ever experienced have been when I've used reloads at the range. Never had an issue with factory ammunition---whether wad-cutters or hollowpoints.
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the LePage dueling pistol.
As to the PPK/s signature gun, the gun in the photo looks like a standard PPK with a prop grip,which looks bulky. All a PPK/s is a PPK slide and barrel put on a PP frame. This was done by Walther back in 1968 so they could import a PPK-type into the US to comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968 import point system. the original PPK being 1/10 of an inch too short to comply. Most of them were chambered in .380 ACP, or 9 mm Short(this is not 9mm Parabellum/Luger, which is what Glocks, SIGs, Brownings, and Walther P99 are chambered in), since the .380 was preferred over the .32 ACP/7.65mm. Ironically, Walther no longer manufactures the
PPK; it is,or was, licensed to S&W in the USA and to FEG in Hungary.You can't import a PPK into the US, but you can make them...
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Really?
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/9mm_ppks.htm
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I guess they are trying to be iconic and honor tradition while putting a modern touch on it.
I'm no weapons expert by any stretch but I'm sure that there are numerous small pistols being produced today
that would be superior to the PPK....but this is a Bond film and EON has opted for tradition in this instance.
I think some might regard the PPK as old hat these days, 6+1 rounds of 7.65mm aint much fire power, where as this PPK/S Q hands over has an extra round and its in 9mm, giving it a bit more of a kick.
I would assume that EoN are trying to keep Bond traditional, but with an updated twist to make things seem a little more realistic. The larger grip of PPK/S would probably fit DC's mitt better as the PPK fits me perfectly, whereas DC's hands must be bigger than my girly ones.
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Usually when someone says 9mm they are referring to the 9x19 (aka 9mm Lugar, 9mm Parabellum) vs the 9x17 (aka 9mm Kurz/Corto/Short, .380ACP). I believe Minigeff was referencing the 9x19.
Having shot the 9mm K PPK quite often, it would be literally a handful in 9X19. The increased grip size of the modified PPK pictured would help this though, but the overall bulk of the weapon would mean you could carry a small double stack magazine 9X19 thus increasing available ammo with little or no impact on concealability vs the modified PPK.
I am also not a fan of increased complexity with the increased potential for failure this brings to the table. A dead battery for example would make the weapon unusable.
Regarding Bond's dress, it looks like the formality of the past is history. In some respects I miss this and in some it is nice to see Bond moving into the present.
Reflections in a double bourbon...
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Are you sure that you have an Ulm Walther made in Germany and not a licensed S&W?
The PPK has been the standard weapon for many police forces all over the world BECAUSE it is so reliable.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Reflections in a double bourbon...
this is quite possibly the most technical way of calling someone a bit ginger beer I've seen in ages!
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Well, my S&W Walther had numerous missfires the firs and only time I shot it. Not limp wristed either
Acccording to:
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Skyfall
It is a P99! Which I stated all along
The design is to square for it to be a P99. I'm quite sure imfdb are wrong. Looks like a Glock in the image and trailer.
Look at the back of the gun, clearly shows it's not a P99. I think they just assumed it was a P99 since Bond uses it.
The skyfall page at the IMFDB is totally speculation. Ok, so the glock and H&K hardware is pretty true as we can see them quite clearly, however, the pachmayr grips claim is totally incorrect. The Q branch grip is nothing like the pachmayr ones.
The same article also claims that the P99 is used (which is still unconfirmed) and that the unknown sniper rifle is used by Bond, which is clearly isn't.
There's similar speculation going on in the Memrobilia and collecting forum, the PPK/S thread.
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IMFDB is a great resource however the thing to take into account is the entries & disclosures are by you and I and we are not always correct. I have known industry professionals who have corrected inaccuracies only to have the person who posted the error log back on and change it back & those professionals are the ones who put the weapons in the actor in questions hand in the first place. In the case of this debate, yes there is a Glock in the scene in question however is DC holding a P99 (Casino Royale type) or an H&K USP? who knows. The front profile of the trigger guard looks like a P99 but then again it could be a USP? or something else none of us has considered. Perhaps trailer#3 will answer this question.
i thought you said you wasn't playing donk?
ere fishy fishy fishy....
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My Walther PPK is a .380, and is one of the little-regarded Interarms-manufactured ones from the early 1990s...but the only jams I've ever experienced have been when I've used reloads at the range. Never had an issue with factory ammunition---whether wad-cutters or hollowpoints.
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM