Is Brosnan really pissed at his demise of Bond?

Halcon

i read somewhere that Brosnan was pissed by his exit as Bond, so much so that he even refuses to watch ol' Craig.

is this so? anybody got any details???

minigeff

I heard him say not getting asked back for a fifth was a bit of a surprise but I've never heard he refuses to watch DC. In fact I'm sure Ive read somewhere he said DC did a fairly good job.

thesecretagent

I heard he was at an awards ceremony at the same table as Craig. Craig had already had the Bond offer, couldn't just sit there knowing, and told Brosnan. Brosnan apparently gathered himself together and told him to, "Go for it, it's a blast..."

Or something like that.

Napoleon Plural

Yeah the actors have no bad blood.

But Brozzer was pissed at the graceless way he was dumped from Bond, allowed to him to sort of find out about it. And he may have felt worse for feeling maybe deserving it; he went public on going to meet Tarantino about his draft of Casino Royale, going behind the producers' back, surely not a good idea, though personally I'd love to see a Tarantino Bond film, especially after the crap we'd been given by the producers during the Brosnan years, can't blame him at all for going after that.

The actual CR seemed to follow on from QT's espousal, though that may be coincicdence, and had the gritty Bond disallowed to Brosnan.

Moore Than

Halcon wrote:

i read somewhere that Brosnan was pissed by his exit as Bond, so much so that he even refuses to watch ol' Craig.

is this so? anybody got any details???

These two articles should help. The first relates to Pierce Brosnan's anger at his exit, the second relates to why he refuses to watch Quantum of Solace rather than his refusal to watch Daniel Craig.

Brosnan 'gutted' over Bond exit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3988029.stm

Pierce Brosnan Never Watches Daniel Craig as James Bond
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/w0000674.html

Halcon

Moore Than wrote:

Halcon wrote:

i read somewhere that Brosnan was pissed by his exit as Bond, so much so that he even refuses to watch ol' Craig.

is this so? anybody got any details???

These two articles should help. The first relates to Pierce Brosnan's anger at his exit, the second relates to why he refuses to watch Quantum of Solace rather than his refusal to watch Daniel Craig.

Brosnan 'gutted' over Bond exit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3988029.stm

Pierce Brosnan Never Watches Daniel Craig as James Bond
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/w0000674.html

thx!

sheeesh...that $%&* Craig mustache ?!

very interesting info...very cool of Craig to tell Brosnan at the dinner table...seemed like the right thing to do (honorable).

the case brings to mind the fact that the actors themselves are just the 'product', in other words dispensable. one must find himself ecstatic and king of the world-like upon finding out you've got the part... (fu$$%&ing James Bond!!!) i guess it would be easy to forget you're not 'in control' around there.
I think Craig understands this though, he seems to be enjoying the ride and despite the ultra serious take on the character, he's very 'deer-in-headlights' about it when interviewe.

...but man, its understandable it took Brosnan 24 hours to get it together...no matter what he says (liberating and what not) its got to still sting. But you did a great job Brosnan...congrats while you were at it.

welshboy78

Disagree with Pierce when he says he quit when on top - Die Another Day lol

Pierce is a nice guy and gent though, very likeable guy and I think was given some shoddy scripts by EON near the end let alone treatment he didn't deserve

Richard--W

Brosnan had every right to be pissed. He was treated badly by producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael J. Wilson. He worked so hard for them selling their stupid ideas on the screen, hoping for the serious and faithful Bond film they had promised him, and then they discarded him.

I'm not a fan of Tarantino. I don't like his films. His Casino Royale would have been very sadistic, but the characters as defined by Fleming and the story with its subtext as told by Fleming would have been present in the film. That's important to me. I would prefer Tarantino's version, with Brosnan, than the insulting crapfest we ended up with.


Richard

Napoleon Plural

Well, ahem, I never quite got how that would work with Brosnan. It would be set after OHMSS, so Bond wouldn't be a novice, esp with Brozzer looking so old. I can't see how it would be that true to Fleming, though elements of Kill Bill 2 could fit into Tarantino's pulpy version, and Le Chiffre's cool banter as he tortures Bond is right out of Reservoir Dogs or Hans Lander in I.B. In fact, the actual scene in the film of CR seems to borrow from Walken's interrogation of Hopper in True Romance, a Tarantino script.

That said, it does seem unwise, Brozzer going behind the producers' backs in cooperating with Tarantino over his version of CR, it was asking for the sack bearing in mind La Broccoli probably has inherited her old man's ruthless streak. But I can see why he would; at risk of sounding sexist it's tempting for a male subordinate to take the initiative when the woman boss just doesn't have any vision or strategy of her own for you to follow. Then it's like, how dare you think you're the boss, typical bloke taking over...

77007

I love how actors claim they've never seen films or never read the Internet or tabloids. I don't believe that for a second.

Mr Beech

My understanding is that the Bond actors all publicly support (or at least place no tension) around the other actors.

Moore Than

Mr Beech wrote:

My understanding is that the Bond actors all publicly support (or at least place no tension) around the other actors.

Pierce Brosnan and George Lazenby had a public spat a few years ago. Lazenby accused Brosnan of being charisma free and feminine. Brosnan hit back saying Lazenby was a pissed off Aussie who was never an actor. I don't know if they have resolved their differences since then.

Agent007jamest

Going from what Moore Than said I remember just prior to goldeneye being released in the US Brosnan was on the cover of GQ and the featured article. Brosnan called out Roger Moore saying he was to old for the part when he got it and that Lazenby was just a model pretending to be an actor. I agreed on both counts ) I liked Brosnans Bonds they were hit and miss GE good, TND not so good, TWINE good, DAD not so good. But all in all i enjoyed his performance its a shame the way they handled letting him go but is their really a good way of firing someone. He loved being Bond and would still be doing it now if they let him. I think no matter how he found out he would have hated the idea of leaving.

jasper_lamar_crabb

Richard--W wrote:

Brosnan had every right to be pissed. He was treated badly by producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael J. Wilson. He worked so hard for them selling their stupid ideas on the screen, hoping for the serious and faithful Bond film they had promised him, and then they discarded him.

I'm not a fan of Tarantino. I don't like his films. His Casino Royale would have been very sadistic, but the characters as defined by Fleming and the story with its subtext as told by Fleming would have been present in the film. That's important to me. I would prefer Tarantino's version, with Brosnan, than the insulting crapfest we ended up with.


Richard

Well, putting aside your credibility-destroying "Casino Royale is an insulting crapfest" remark, Brosnan was not treated badly. He signed a contract to make three films and an optional fourth, and that's exactly what he did. I don't like any of his films but a lot of fans do, especially GoldenEye. Broccoli & Wilson pursued a fifth film with Brosnan, but he demanded too much money so it's his fault that he didn't do any more films with potentially better scripts.

Tarantino could never make a Bond film for a simple reason - he refuses to join the director's guild which is a requirement. He already knew that, of course, when he was promoting his idea for Casino Royale.

Napoleon Plural

Eh? This is news to me.

The reason another Brosnan was partly the money, though Wilson denied it. Frankly, if you're being offered crap like DAD, which did huge box office anyway, you might think no money is enough and go for it. It won't be for art's sake.

It's not his fault; he had to do the scripts given, he was under contract for three out of four of 'em.

Also, what's this about Tarantino being in the director's guild? Never heard that. I understood the reason he couldn't do CR was that he just couldn't get the rights; they were floating around at one point but then EON nailed them down and they didn't want him to direct.

jasper_lamar_crabb

Napoleon Plural wrote:

Eh? This is news to me.

The reason another Brosnan was partly the money, though Wilson denied it. Frankly, if you're being offered crap like DAD, which did huge box office anyway, you might think no money is enough and go for it. It won't be for art's sake.

It's not his fault; he had to do the scripts given, he was under contract for three out of four of 'em.

Also, what's this about Tarantino being in the director's guild? Never heard that. I understood the reason he couldn't do CR was that he just couldn't get the rights; they were floating around at one point but then EON nailed them down and they didn't want him to direct.

Tarantino is very good at generating his own publicity, and all his talk about making Casino Royale was more of his infamous bluster. It's one of his more peculiar outbursts, as he knew very well that he would not be able to make the film.

Brosnan apparently wanted a percentage of box-office take as well as his huge fee for making another film. EON wanted to deal with him, but he just got too greedy. Personally, I think he would have been too old after DAD.

Napoleon Plural

Okay, but that's one hell of a bluster bearing in mind he met Pierce Brosnan about it and went into some detail on what he would do with it. The guy doesn't strike me as being a Kevin McClory pie-in-the-sky bullsh!tter, I mean he intended to make Pulp Fiction, one of the best films ever, and made it, he does what he says he's going to.

Again, I can't personally blame Brosnan for going after a percentage, he may have felt the success of DAD (and it was a massive hit) was down to his high recongisablility and Bond-like good looks, when you look at the way the film his regarded, it doesn't seem unreasonable, though it is risky when you look at the producers' track record in dealing with those who want a percentage.

Moore Than

Here is an amusing video of Pierce Brosnan wandering around a car park looking for his car. As Pierce struggles to find his car onlookers/fans have their say. At one point someone says "Roger was good" to which comes the reply "Loved Roger" Beware shaky cam.

Pierce Brosnan's Spy Skills Desert Him
http://www.contactmusic.com/celebrity-videos/pierce-brosnans-spy-skills-desert-him-as-he-struggles-to-find-his-parked-car_11876

Halcon

Moore Than wrote:

Here is an amusing video of Pierce Brosnan wandering around a car park looking for his car. As Pierce struggles to find his car onlookers/fans have their say. At one point someone says "Roger was good" to which comes the reply "Loved Roger" Beware shaky cam.

Pierce Brosnan's Spy Skills Desert Him
http://www.contactmusic.com/celebrity-videos/pierce-brosnans-spy-skills-desert-him-as-he-struggles-to-find-his-parked-car_11876

that was very cool. have to say though, what was he wearing??

props to the guy for being respectful of Brosnan.

Thunderpussy

Found this Video. I think it's a great piece of Fun, as it has Brosnan In QOS. )

http://youtu.be/cJGXrdskDDE

Willard Whyte

Moore Than wrote:

Mr Beech wrote:

My understanding is that the Bond actors all publicly support (or at least place no tension) around the other actors.

Pierce Brosnan and George Lazenby had a public spat a few years ago. Lazenby accused Brosnan of being charisma free and feminine. Brosnan hit back saying Lazenby was a pissed off Aussie who was never an actor. I don't know if they have resolved their differences since then.

Lazenby IMO was a better Bond and OHMSS is one of the best Bond films ever.

Ardee

I wish we had access to Brozzer's CR draft. It's be interesting to imagine his approach to a 'new' Bond indeed, or however it was written to be. I was hoping him and Tarantino would pull a 'NSNA', but it's far too late for that I'm afraid.