Dedicate Skyfall to John Barry!

Smithers500

Hello all, I'd like to start this topic in the hope that it gets the attention of the Bond producers if we can get enough support built in the fan community.

This may be to no avail and in fact, maybe moves are afoot to do this already, but I'm not aware of such. Nor am I aware of one Bond fan that doesn't revere Barry and I think that to dedicate the next film to his memory would be a fitting tribute to the great man.

If memory serves Goldeneye was dedicated to Derek Meddings, TND to Cubby Broccoli, so the precedent has been set.

All those in favour, post "aye"and spread the word!

Youknowthename

Erm...Barry hadn't scored a Bond film since The Living Daylights in 1987... And if memory serves me correct, he and the producers didn't exactly part in the best of ways.

Meddings had worked on GoldenEye, Cubby was (half) the founding father of the Bond movies, so those tributes are more logical.

Blackleiter

AYE!

Smithers500 wrote:

Hello all, I'd like to start this topic in the hope that it gets the attention of the Bond producers if we can get enough support built in the fan community.

This may be to no avail and in fact, maybe moves are afoot to do this already, but I'm not aware of such. Nor am I aware of one Bond fan that doesn't revere Barry and I think that to dedicate the next film to his memory would be a fitting tribute to the great man.

If memory serves Goldeneye was dedicated to Derek Meddings, TND to Cubby Broccoli, so the precedent has been set.

All those in favour, post "aye"and spread the word!

Smithers500

Youknowthename wrote:

Erm...Barry hadn't scored a Bond film since The Living Daylights in 1987... And if memory serves me correct, he and the producers didn't exactly part in the best of ways.

Meddings had worked on GoldenEye, Cubby was (half) the founding father of the Bond movies, so those tributes are more logical.

Thanks for your response - I wasn't aware of any bad parting of the ways, I knew he had a fall out with A-ha though.

I accept what you say about the previous tributes, but given that this film is being released on the 50th anniversary of the series and Barry's sad death last year, this being the first Bond film since, I figured that a tribute would be appropriate.

To me, Barry's music was Bond, notwithstanding any litigation regarding the theme etc.

ZorinIndustries

AYE! This is a great idea. Regardless of how he split his ways, without JB's music, James Bond films would not be the same. His contributions were enough to last an eternity.

Napoleon Plural

I dunno, it's all history. I'd love for Barry to have done one more cue, and what a shame he couldn't have survived for the Olympics, he could have done a short number for the Craig bit without the big effort needed for an entire score.

It seems a bit sentimental to have him namechecked, and he didn't much care for the 'modern' Bonds. Not sure of his view of CR, but like most I imagine he disliked QoS.

vanguard

Aye, a small tribute would be so appropriate in the credits. When did Barry have the bad parting? He was supposed to do LTK but had throat cancer surgery. Was he asked to do Goldeneye?

Napoleon Plural

There were talks for him to do GE but his time was taken up with another film and he amiably suggested since they were going with a new start they might want someone else. Talks resumed for TND but were said to have broken down over the fee and his right to do the title song, which the producers wanted to hold over for a big name singer/songwriter to promote the film better.

Barry went off the Bond films; like many of us he liked the old films, the classics but if there was a new one on telly he said he wasn't bothered. Not sure if he was alive to see QoS. Guess he was. (Scrolls up) Bloody hell, I'm answering my own point. 8-)

David Schofield

Hmm.

Admire Barry, love his music and all he has done for Bond. As I do many others involved, to differing degrees, Cubby at the very top.

But surely if EON insits on a dedication for this one, after 50 years, it should read:

TO IAN FLEMING. THANK FCUK.

Napoleon Plural

Who would we be doing it for anyway? Not like JB would have given a flying f.... frankly.

Yeah, dedication to Ian Fleming might work better, good shout out DS. -{

Thunderpussy

Perhaps they could have a dedication on the end credits with a list
of Names with something like,

" Many Thanks to
All those who have worked to make the series such a success "

Moore Than

Thunderpussy wrote:

Perhaps they could have a dedication on the end credits with a list
of Names with something like,

" Many Thanks to
All those who have worked to make the series such a success "

Not a bad idea, TP. And perhaps in addition to the above.

"And to all the fans who have helped make the series such a success"

Regards Ian Fleming. I would not be surprised if a photograph or painting of him is seen in Skyfall.

Thunderpussy

It would be nice to see a photo of Bond's parents, perhaps with
Fleming as his father. :007)

David Schofield

Thunderpussy wrote:

It would be nice to see a photo of Bond's parents, perhaps with
Fleming as his father. :007)

Yes, I'd though of that before. It would be perfect.

Perhaps a bit too clever for EON to think of? Takes a bit of the reason for the movies' success away from them too... Would they be happy to share such a moment?

minigeff

personally i'd like to see a 'bafta' style tribute at the end of SF, but i think there are so many people to pay tribute to that it'd take hours to get through them all.

i'd put the likes of john stears et co up there as important as barry and fleming, but like i say, i can't see it happening.

maybe bafta will offer a slot next time round for babs et co to say a few words?

David Schofield

minigeff wrote:

i'd put the likes of john stears et co up there as important as barry and fleming, but like i say, i can't see it happening.

A model makes? EFX man? As important Fleming?????

Surely you jest, sir.

minigeff

David Schofield wrote:

minigeff wrote:

i'd put the likes of john stears et co up there as important as barry and fleming, but like i say, i can't see it happening.

A model makes? EFX man? As important Fleming?????

Surely you jest, sir.

nope. filmaking is a team effort, its not all about the big names imo.

David Schofield

minigeff wrote:

David Schofield wrote:

minigeff wrote:

i'd put the likes of john stears et co up there as important as barry and fleming, but like i say, i can't see it happening.

A model makes? EFX man? As important Fleming?????

Surely you jest, sir.

nope. filmaking is a team effort, its not all about the big names imo.

Agree movie making is a collaborative effort.

But without Fleming's original concept there wouldn't be anything for said team effort to be used on.

-{

minigeff

David Schofield wrote:

minigeff wrote:

David Schofield wrote:

A model makes? EFX man? As important Fleming?????

Surely you jest, sir.

nope. filmaking is a team effort, its not all about the big names imo.

Agree movie making is a collaborative effort.

But without Fleming's original concept there wouldn't be anything for said team effort to be used on.

-{

too true dave, but i'm saying that if any tributes were to be included, then i would prefer to see everyone involved in a major way included. it's not a question of 'either/or', i'm just saying it should be everyone involved or no tribute at all. one could summise it to be a case of 'Everything Or Nothing'

HowardB

The begining of the end credits should contain "Dedicated to the Memory of John Barry 1933-2011". All this "bad parting"stuff should all be water under the bridge. They sold a ton of soundtracks and had top 10 hits when Barry did the scores. Barry's music is huge part of the Bond film's success.

Blackleiter

Agree 100%.

HowardB wrote:

The begining of the end credits should contain "Dedicated to the Memory of John Barry 1933-2011". All this "bad parting"stuff should all be water under the bridge. They sold a ton of soundtracks and had top 10 hits when Barry did the scores. Barry's music is huge part of the Bond film's success.