Best Bond Movies From Different Perspectives...

chrisisall

Best "Feels like a Fleming novel" Bond? From Russia With Love.
Best "Feels like an updated Fleming novel" Bond? Casino Royale.
Best "Wow, what a fun action film" Bond? The Spy Who Loved Me.
Best "Formula Bond" Bond? Goldfinger.
Best "Adult funny" Bond? Diamonds Are Forever.
Best "Kid funny" Bond? Moonraker.
Best "I'm just looking for good fight scenes" Bond? You Only Live Twice/Tomorrow Never Dies.
Best "Big" Bond? Thunderball.
Best "Small" Bond? Man With The Golden Gun.
Best "KILL the bad guys!!!" Bond? Liscense To Kill/Quantum Of Solace.
Best "Backstory" Bond? Goldeneye.
Best "Overall production" Bond? On Her Majesty's Secret service.

Best "Basic" Bond? Dr. No.

thesecretagent

If you spell Fleming with two m's again, I'm sure there'll be a capture or kill order on you very soon. )

chrisisall

thesecretagent wrote:

If you spell Fleming with two m's again, I'm sure there'll be a capture or kill order on you very soon. )

Ouch, my bad!

Jamesbondjr

Best "Feels like a Fleming novel" Bond? On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Best "Feels like an updated Fleming novel" Bond? Casino Royale
Best "Wow, what a fun action film" Bond? Octopussy
Best "Formula Bond" Bond? The Living Daylights
Best "Adult funny" Bond? Casino Royale
Best "Kid funny" Bond? Moonraker.
Best "I'm just looking for good fight scenes" Bond? Quantum of Solace
Best "Big" Bond? The Spy Who Loved Me
Best "Small" Bond? Dr. No
Best "KILL the bad guys!!!" Bond? Licence To Kill
Best "Backstory" Bond? Casino Royale
Best "Overall production" Bond? On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Best "Basic" Bond? Dr. No

Peppermill

Best "Feels like a Fleming novel" Bond? Dr No
Best "Feels like an updated Fleming novel" Bond? The Living Daylights
Best "Wow, what a fun action film" Bond? Octopussy
Best "Formula Bond" Bond? The Spy Who Loved Me
Best "Adult funny" Bond? Thunderball, You Only Live Twice
Best "Kid funny" Bond? Moonraker, You Only Live Twice
Best "I'm just looking for good fight scenes" Bond? Casino Royale
Best "Big" Bond? The Spy Who Loved Me
Best "Small" Bond? From Russia With Love
Best "KILL the bad guys!!!" Bond? Licence To Kill and Tomorrow Never Dies
Best "Backstory" Bond? On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Best "Overall production" Bond? The Spy Who Loved Me
Best "Basic" Bond? From Russia With Love

chrisisall

Peppermill wrote:

Best "Feels like a Fleming novel" Bond? Dr No

I can see that, in a way, it's the purest movie ever made. They had nothing movie-wise to build upon, so it was Fleming all the way.

ZorinIndustries

Best "Feels like a Fleming novel" Bond? Haven't read novels.
Best "Feels like an updated Fleming novel" Bond? Haven't read novels.
Best "Wow, what a fun action film" Bond? GoldenEye
Best "Formula Bond" Bond? Goldfinger
Best "Adult funny" Bond? Casino Royale
Best "Kid funny" Bond? Moonraker
Best "I'm just looking for good fight scenes" Bond? Die Another Day/Casino Royale
Best "Big" Bond? Goldfinger
Best "Small" Bond? Diamonds Are Forever
Best KILL the bad guys!!!" Bond? License To Kill
Best "Backstory" Bond? GoldenEye
Best "Overall production" Bond? GoldenEye
Best "Basic" Bond? Casino Royale

chrisisall

ZorinIndustries wrote:

Haven't read novels.

Dude, you must read at least ONE!!!
Read Moonraker! It's way different & better than the movie.

Peppermill

chrisisall wrote:

ZorinIndustries wrote:

Haven't read novels.

Dude, you must read at least ONE!!!
Read Moonraker! It's way different & better than the movie.

Or listen to the audiobooks, also a great way to get to know Fleming's source material. I agree Moonraker is one of the best novels and if you choose to only read one it is a great choice. But IMHO you should read/hear them all and just start at Casino Royale.

ZorinIndustries

Haha I've been dying to read the novels! I've read the first chapter or so of CR at the library and the final scene of OHMSS as well. Very good material. Do you suggest unabridged, or should i stick with abridged?

chrisisall

ZorinIndustries wrote:

Do you suggest unabridged, or should i stick with abridged?

You can blow up that abridged when you come to it. )

I actually don't know which I own & have read... I assume UN.

Peppermill

Unabridged for sure.

SpectreBlofeld

Abridged versions exist!? It's not like any of the books are particularly long! A few hundred pages at the most. I can't imagine what they could cut out, to be honest... Fleming was pretty efficient.

chrisisall

IMO, the two 'biggest' Bond movies are Spy Who Loved Me & You Only Live Twice, both with similar plots, and both by the same director.
Almost a decade separate the two.

This, gentlemen, is where we fight. -{
Which had better?
Musical score? YOLT, definitely.
FX? Arguably TSWLM.
Fight scenes? YOLT.
Physics? TSWLM.
Bad guy demise? Obviously TSWLM.
Henchman? TSWLM.
Cool Q stuff? Tie (Little Nell/Lotus car-sub)
Bond actor? Can't beat Connery.

This is a toss up of the tallest order... but IMO TSWLM wins out because of our acclimation to outrageous, which still seemed a bit much at the time of YOLT.

Am I right? 8-)

vanguard

chrisisall wrote:

IMO, the two 'biggest' Bond movies are Spy Who Loved Me & You Only Live Twice, both with similar plots, and both by the same director.
Almost a decade separate the two.

This, gentlemen, is where we fight. -{
Which had better?
Musical score? YOLT, definitely.
FX? Arguably TSWLM.
Fight scenes? YOLT.
Physics? TSWLM.
Bad guy demise? Obviously TSWLM.
Henchman? TSWLM.
Cool Q stuff? Tie (Little Nell/Lotus car-sub)
Bond actor? Can't beat Connery.

This is a toss up of the tallest order... but IMO TSWLM wins out because of our acclimation to outrageous, which still seemed a bit much at the time of YOLT.

Am I right? 8-)

You forgot chases, girls, locations, secret villain lairs, title sequences

Agent007jamest

vanguard wrote:

chrisisall wrote:

IMO, the two 'biggest' Bond movies are Spy Who Loved Me & You Only Live Twice, both with similar plots, and both by the same director.
Almost a decade separate the two.

This, gentlemen, is where we fight. -{
Which had better?
Musical score? YOLT, definitely.
FX? Arguably TSWLM.
Fight scenes? YOLT.
Physics? TSWLM.
Bad guy demise? Obviously TSWLM.
Henchman? TSWLM.
Cool Q stuff? Tie (Little Nell/Lotus car-sub)
Bond actor? Can't beat Connery.

This is a toss up of the tallest order... but IMO TSWLM wins out because of our acclimation to outrageous, which still seemed a bit much at the time of YOLT.

Am I right? 8-)

You forgot chases, girls, locations, secret villain lairs, title sequences

The precredit sequence for TSWLM is legendary but I Love the ever so Bondian back and forth of YOLT delivered as only the master could:
"Why does Chinese girls taste different to all other girls?"(Bond ever the connoisseur! )
"Oh you think Chinese girls taste better..."
"Not better just different like Peking duck taste different to all other ducks" )
"Oh honey I give you the best duck" -{ :007)
Then as he begins to say that would be lovely they flip the bed up and shoot him! Now that to me is classic Bond.

One more thing about TSWLM I wish they didnt have the submarine open and take the the other subs. Its one thing to remake YOLT but TSWLM is just too close! I think it is a closer remake to YOLT than NSNA was to TB and that was suppose to be a remake! ) But that said it was one of Moore's best efforts

chrisisall

vanguard wrote:

You forgot chases, girls, locations, secret villain lairs, title sequences

Chases- TSWLM
Girls- YOLT
Locations- YOLT
Secret Villain Lairs- TSWLM (a SECRET volcano?? That's more Flint than Bond to me ) ).
Title sequence- TSWLM

vanguard

chrisisall wrote:

IMO, the two 'biggest' Bond movies are Spy Who Loved Me & You Only Live Twice, both with similar plots, and both by the same director.
Almost a decade separate the two.

This, gentlemen, is where we fight. -{
Which had better?
Musical score? YOLT, definitely.
FX? Arguably TSWLM.
Fight scenes? YOLT.
Physics? TSWLM.
Bad guy demise? Obviously TSWLM.
Henchman? TSWLM.
Cool Q stuff? Tie (Little Nell/Lotus car-sub)
Bond actor? Can't beat Connery.

This is a toss up of the tallest order... but IMO TSWLM wins out because of our acclimation to outrageous, which still seemed a bit much at the time of YOLT.

Am I right? 8-)

Musical score - YOLT all the way though I dig Bond '77 and The Ride to Atlantis.
FX - TSWLM
Fight scenes - YOLT especially the fight in Osato's office
Physics - not sure how this goes into a movie comparison other than comparing models. I will replace with script... Which goes to TSWLM just barely
Bad guy Demise - TSWLM
Henchman - TSWLM
Cool Q stuff, with extra from Japan for YOLT
Chases - TSWLM
Girls - TSWLM
Locations - TSWLM
Secret Villains Lairs - YOLT
Title sequence - YOLT

Jarvio

Best "Feels like a Fleming novel" Bond?
FRWL
Best "Feels like an updated Fleming novel" Bond?
CR
Best "Wow, what a fun action film" Bond?
AVTAK
Best "Formula Bond" Bond?
YOLT
Best "Adult funny" Bond?
LALD
Best "Kid funny" Bond?
OP
Best "I'm just looking for good fight scenes" Bond?
YOLT
Best "Big" Bond?
YOLT
Best "Small" Bond?
LALD
Best "KILL the bad guys!!!" Bond?
LTK
Best "Backstory" Bond?
GE
Best "Overall production" Bond?
LALD

chrisisall

Jarvio wrote:

Best "Kid funny" Bond?
OP

? Kid Funny? Tarzan yell okay, but overall, it's not a movie a kid should see & laugh much at IMO. But I suppose I need to define 'kid'. A person under 10.

Jarvio

chrisisall wrote:

Jarvio wrote:

Best "Kid funny" Bond?
OP

? Kid Funny? Tarzan yell okay, but overall, it's not a movie a kid should see & laugh much at IMO. But I suppose I need to define 'kid'. A person under 10.

Well it was the most kid-like one I could think of except for MR... and I'm not gonna vote for that one now, am I? )

BIG TAM

Best “Feels Like A Fleming Novel” Bond = FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE

Best “Feels Like An Updated Fleming Novel” Bond = CASINO ROYALE

Best “Wow, What A Fun Action Film” Bond = TOMORROW NEVER DIES

Best “Formula Bond” Bond = THE SPY WHO LOVED ME

Best “Adult Funny” Bond = GOLDFINGER

Best “Kid Funny” Bond = MOONRAKER

Best “I’m Just Looking For Good Fight Scenes” Bond = DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER

Best “Big” Bond = THUNDERBALL

Best “Small” Bond = LIVE & LET DIE

Best “Kill The Bad Guys” Bond = LICENCE TO KILL

Best “Backstory” Bond = GOLDENEYE

Best “Overall Production” Bond = ON HER MAJESTY’S SECRET SERVICE

BIG TAM

As for the YOLT Vs. TSWLM debate, I'd like to wade in with my own twopenneth worth if I may.

Music Score = YOLT

Special Effects = TSWLM

Fight Scenes = YOLT

Physics = TSWLM

Bad Guy Demise = TSWLM

Henchman = TSWLM

Cool Q Stuff = TSWLM

Chases = TSWLM

Girls = TSWLM

Locations = TSWLM

Secret Villain's Lair = TSWLM

Title Sequence = TSWLM

I suppose it's fairly conclusive from the above that I feel TSWLM to be the superior film in virtually every way. But would it have existed without YOLT? Probably not, so YOLT does deserve some kudos for ushering in the OTT epic spy extravaganza.

For me TSWLM is the ultimate Bond patchwork quilt; a Greatest Hits package of all the best bits from previous films bundled into one glorious 120 minute romp. Does anyone agree?

chrisisall

BIG TAM wrote:

For me TSWLM is the ultimate Bond patchwork quilt; a Greatest Hits package of all the best bits from previous films bundled into one glorious 120 minute romp. Does anyone agree?

I agree. They took nearly every element from the previous bunch & put it in a blender. It could have come out a mess, but it gelled rather nicely. :007)

You list above that is very good too IMO,