'Fun' Bonds vs. 'Serious' Bonds, and your top 5 of each

chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
in The James Bond Films
The difference for me is that I can put on the 'fun' Bonds whenever & mindlessly enjoy them, the 'serious' Bonds get played less frequently, as I don't want to burn out on them. And here is another thing- where do you place those movies on the line in between? This might warrant some discussion.... I define 'fun' as involving world domination or comic book-like antics, and 'serious' as, well, not so much of that. :))
My lists, in order:

FUN
Tomorrow Never Dies
Diamonds Are Forever
Spy Who Loved Me
Dr. No
Man With The Golden Gun


SERIOUS
Licence To Kill
Goldeneye
The Living Daylights
Thunderball
Dr. No

Hmmm... one made it into both lists.... :))
Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    You're starting more threads than an epileptic spiderman, chrisisall...
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    FUN
    Goldfinger
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds Are Forever
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The Spy Who Loved Me

    SERIOUS
    From Russia With Love
    Casino Royale
    Thunderball
    Licence To Kill
    The Living Daylights
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • GordoLeiterGordoLeiter Posts: 462MI6 Agent
    Fun:
    Live and Let Die
    Moonraker
    Goldfinger
    From Russia With Love
    Goldeneye

    Serious:
    Licence To Kill
    A View to a Kill
    OHMSS
    YOu only live Twice
    Casino Royale
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Now I'm confused. I saw YOLT as a FUN Bond, while you saw it as SERIOUS, whereas I thought FRWL was a SERIOUS film while in your view it was a FUN Bond movie. I realize these are all merely opinions, but I thought certain types of Bond movies fall into the FUN category, i.e. silly plots, elaborate villains and lairs, outrageous stunts and gadgets, obvious jokes, etc. For the SERIOUS category I was thinking more realistic scenarios, subtler humor, etc. Am I missing the point?
    GordoLeiter wrote:
    Fun:
    Live and Let Die
    Moonraker
    Goldfinger
    From Russia With Love
    Goldeneye

    Serious:
    Licence To Kill
    A View to a Kill
    OHMSS
    YOu only live Twice
    Casino Royale
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • GordoLeiterGordoLeiter Posts: 462MI6 Agent
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Now I'm confused. I saw YOLT as a FUN Bond, while you saw it as SERIOUS, whereas I thought FRWL was a SERIOUS film while in your view it was a FUN Bond movie. I realize these are all merely opinions, but I thought certain types of Bond movies fall into the FUN category, i.e. silly plots, elaborate villains and lairs, outrageous stunts and gadgets, obvious jokes, etc. For the SERIOUS category I was thinking more realistic scenarios, subtler humor, etc. Am I missing the point?
    GordoLeiter wrote:
    Fun:
    Live and Let Die
    Moonraker
    Goldfinger
    From Russia With Love
    Goldeneye

    Serious:
    Licence To Kill
    A View to a Kill
    OHMSS
    YOu only live Twice
    Casino Royale


    Does it really matter dude, its my opinion. Besides the title of the thread says YOUR top 5. I thought FRWL was a fun movie, whats wrong with that
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Am I missing the point?
    Well, part of it is finding out which movies are considered which... you could make the argument that certain elements are preposterous, but the movie is fun anyway, whereas someone else might say IN SPITE of those elements, the overall film is serious in nature....
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    GordoLeiter wrote:
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Now I'm confused. I saw YOLT as a FUN Bond, while you saw it as SERIOUS, whereas I thought FRWL was a SERIOUS film while in your view it was a FUN Bond movie. I realize these are all merely opinions, but I thought certain types of Bond movies fall into the FUN category, i.e. silly plots, elaborate villains and lairs, outrageous stunts and gadgets, obvious jokes, etc. For the SERIOUS category I was thinking more realistic scenarios, subtler humor, etc. Am I missing the point?
    GordoLeiter wrote:
    Fun:
    Live and Let Die
    Moonraker
    Goldfinger
    From Russia With Love
    Goldeneye

    Serious:
    Licence To Kill
    A View to a Kill
    OHMSS
    YOu only live Twice
    Casino Royale


    Does it really matter dude, its my opinion. Besides the title of the thread says YOUR top 5. I thought FRWL was a fun movie, whats wrong with that

    Agreed! I think a movie (TND) where half of the time Bond is walking around with a machine gun shooting everyone in sight should not be considered as a FUN Bond movie, but to each his own (said the woman as she kissed her cow). If I have to respond on every post I do not agree with I could quit my job.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Nothing wrong with that at all, dude. One person's FUN is another person's SERIOUS. I was just asking because my original thought when I read chrisisall's title was that he had specific categories in mind. Apparently I was wrong - my bad! :#
    GordoLeiter wrote:
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Now I'm confused. I saw YOLT as a FUN Bond, while you saw it as SERIOUS, whereas I thought FRWL was a SERIOUS film while in your view it was a FUN Bond movie. I realize these are all merely opinions, but I thought certain types of Bond movies fall into the FUN category, i.e. silly plots, elaborate villains and lairs, outrageous stunts and gadgets, obvious jokes, etc. For the SERIOUS category I was thinking more realistic scenarios, subtler humor, etc. Am I missing the point?
    GordoLeiter wrote:
    Fun:
    Live and Let Die
    Moonraker
    Goldfinger
    From Russia With Love
    Goldeneye

    Serious:
    Licence To Kill
    A View to a Kill
    OHMSS
    YOu only live Twice
    Casino Royale


    Does it really matter dude, its my opinion. Besides the title of the thread says YOUR top 5. I thought FRWL was a fun movie, whats wrong with that
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Fun Movies;

    Moonraker
    You Only Live Twice
    Live and Let Die
    Diamonds are Forever
    Tomorrow Never Dies

    Serious Movies;

    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    OHMSS
    Licence To Kill
    Casino Royale
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Peppermill wrote:
    I think a movie (TND) where half of the time Bond is walking around with a machine gun shooting everyone in sight should not be considered as a FUN Bond movie, but to each his own (said the woman as she kissed her cow). If I have to respond on every post I do not agree with I could quit my job.
    Actually, I take the movie terribly seriously, but it *IS* about a type of world domination... :s
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Serious Movies;
    Goldfinger
    Sorry old man, according to chrisisall's Rules, Goldfinger is a FUN movie; Oddjob is clearly a cartoon character, and there is a world (gold) domination motif! X-(

    Hahahah, just kidding. But seriously, that's one that fall RIGHT on the line for me.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Napoleon Plural wrote:
    You're starting more threads than an epileptic spiderman, chrisisall...
    Ouch, you're right. I'll back off a bit. Too overenthusiastic, I conjure. Gotta conserve web fluid.... :D
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    Just to be pedantic--it's part of my real-world job--I wonder if a better distinction would be Realistic or Unrealistic. Frankly, I find some of the most serious Bonds to have a strong sense of fun--FRWL, OHMSS--and some of the most fun films have deadly serious moments--Goldfinger, TSWLM. Just sayin'. . .
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Just to be pedantic--it's part of my real-world job--I wonder if a better distinction would be Realistic or Unrealistic.
    That's problematical for me personally, as I view nearly all motion pictures as 'unrealistic' all around. Is Braveheart "realistic'? Is Lawrence of Arabia? To what degree??

    What really separates "In Like Flint" from YOLT (in terms of realism) except budget & LOL moments?
    Serious can be realistic or unrealistic, as can Fun.
    It (like life itself), is SO subjective. But that's why I started this thread- to explore opinions on the relative levels of real world connections the Bond movies have.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • GordoLeiterGordoLeiter Posts: 462MI6 Agent
    Sean Connery looking like Moe from Three Stooges iws what made YOLT funny for me
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    GordoLeiter wrote:
    Sean Connery looking like Moe from Three Stooges is what made YOLT funny for me
    I concur!

    Funny, people rag on DAF, but YOLT is no more serious under scrutiny IMO. :))

    606336-yolt_shpock.jpg
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Hey! I love YOLT!
    chrisisall wrote:
    GordoLeiter wrote:
    Sean Connery looking like Moe from Three Stooges is what made YOLT funny for me
    I concur!

    Funny, people rag on DAF, but YOLT is no more serious under scrutiny IMO. :))

    606336-yolt_shpock.jpg
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Hey! I love YOLT!
    And I love DAF!
    We're even! -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • DutchfingerDutchfinger Holland With LovePosts: 1,240MI6 Agent
    FUN
    1. Goldfinger
    2. The Spy Who Loved Me
    3. You Only Live Twice
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies
    5. Octopussy

    SERIOUS
    1. Licence To Kill
    2. Goldeneye
    3. Casino Royale
    4. For Your Eyes Only
    5. Thunderball
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Actually, I'm kind of fond of DAF, too!
    chrisisall wrote:
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Hey! I love YOLT!
    And I love DAF!
    We're even! -{
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    Top Five Serious Bonds:
    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. Dr. No
    4. Casino Royale
    5. Licence To Kill

    Top Five Fun Bonds:
    1. Goldfinger
    2. The Spy Who Loved Me
    3. Diamonds Are Forever
    4. Moonraker
    5. Die Another Day

    Another interesting topic. The serious Bonds are fairly self-explanatory aside from Dr. No. Although the villain's set-up is bizarre it never feels daft & I like the emphasis on espionage in the first half. The fun Bonds were a bit more difficult to analyse. To me Goldfinger's great fun, but more serious than say, The Spy Who Loved Me. Both feature an OTT henchman, but Oddjob never feels comedic in the way Jaws does. But perhaps in 1964 people were chuckling in their cinema seats at the notion of a bloke killing people with a steel-rimmed bowler hat. It's all subjective I suppose.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    BIG TAM wrote:
    But perhaps in 1964 people were chuckling in their cinema seats at the notion of a bloke killing people with a steel-rimmed bowler hat. It's all subjective I suppose.
    Having grown up with that on TV, people forget... the first time I saw it was at a Bond triple feature in the seventies, and that 'hat trick' made our jaws drop.
    Today, all henchmen have a hat like that in their devious stuff collections.... :v
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
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