Glad that this isn't a PISA test ... And no, I don't mean Napoleon is in Pisa with its one iconic building (unless they moved the Alps a few hundred miles south while I wasn't looking).
Okay Nap: Do the natives speak English as an official language?
Yes, many school children would happily make that mistake.
And yes, I made a fool of myself.
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I went to Liverpool some 20 years ago on a day trip from rainy Manchester and like it a lot, it was a sunny day and you get that big building as you come out of Lime St Station.
I won't knock the people, they seem nice enough if maybe a bit chippy, you get the sense that if you're not as friendly as them, they could turn harsh. The accent is like Stevie Gerrard, not like The Beatles at all, in fact you could spead an urban myth that they're from Birmingham and it might take.
But the city does seem a bit odd. The Liverpool One shopping mall is new and so huge, it could be like any open air mall in Europe, it's utterly bland with the same shops - Topman, Toni&Guy, River Island, Boots, Debenhams, John Lewis, Costa Coffee, Pret, Starbucks and so on that you get anywhere. I've been here a few days now and I can't really figure out where is what in it, there are no landmarks at all like a clock tower, the shops are the landmarks. You look down the street and think, right, that's John Lewis, so we're facing that way round.
Liverpool is just one big shopping centre now, soulless it seems. You can't believe there's enough folk to be in the shops, there are so many of them. It's like the shops mean you have to buy. With these big malls, they have you in their grip, because unlike the old high street shops, they can't be converted into anything else like houses or accommodation. Without flats or apartments or even offices nearby, it loses its human perspective. It's very badly designed, but it's not Liverpool's fault. There's a similar venture on smaller scale in St Paul's, London. The shops are all high end, and soulless. The ratio of quirky little newsagents and artisan places to generic chain stores is very low.
With all that, the town planners knocked down the original Cavern. 8-)
It's Beatles everywhere. Here, There and Bloody Everywhere. I like them, perhaps that makes it worse, in the same way that a woman who hates sex might be a better prostitute, if you hated the Fabs maybe it could just wash over you. I'm from London, which the Beatles frankly made their adopted city, so in any tat store you have the Stones, the Who, the Beatles etc, they're leaders of a scene. Here they're demi gods, and it gets me down. I find myself thinking, well, what about Frankie Goes to Hollywood? Or Echo and the Bunnymen?
Despite all this, the Beatles Story exhibition is said to be rubbish, and not worth the £15 admission. The shop is tatty and sells CDs not in their plastic covering, for £17 or so. Like, can't you get it from amazon for a tenner!
I went on the ferry, not bad, but the waterfront with iconic Liver Building don't look so good.
The town planners of L'pool should be shot. It's just a jumble box room of odds and ends buildings that don't quite fit together, unlike the redevelopment around Tate Modern in London.
The Liverpool Museum is impressive but doesn't quite fit with everything else, but inside it's good stuff with actually a decent Beatles exhibition, it's all free. Interesting to note the history of the city, of course it was the UK's main trading port to all over the world, so very metropolitan, with big links to Shanghai, so a lot of Chinese here. There is a Chinatown, but again the new Liverpool One precinct doesn't have that international, vibrant flavour to it all all. Not only that, but other areas are shopping centres too but rundown. It's like the guy whose house is a mess, but rather than tidy it and renovate, builds a massive annex that's shiny new onto the back.
The Art Academy is good, I felt snobbish when they had a Rolf Harris exhibition there but actually a lot of his Impressionistic stuff is very good, despite his 'comedy' reputation.
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Last time I was in Liverpool they was building some poncey building near the liver. It looked cack.
It rained constantly and when we asked in a pub for directions the barman wanted a fiver to tell us. The streets were full of black sooty grime and the whole place had a real run down crap house feel about it. The area by the docks is the worst which is pretty much a real life Lowry painting.
And soon after they named it the European city of culture.
I'd say it's more like the global sh1tty of cultures, moulds and fungi.
Well, I don't mean to be rude, I think Strangeways is from these parts, but for all its revamp it still seems like a big Croydon, or maybe Brighton without the charm (lots of squarking seagulls around, pushy f***ckers too). A lot of the big buildings, like the ones I pictured, look like they could do with a good clean, surely it can't cost that much compared to a billion-pound shopping mall? There are nice touches, such as the Liverpool Ice Cream Vans - good 99 flake too, no rubbish stuff - and lots of pianos in the centre for folk to play on, mind you, London have that a month back too.
It's like, the Odeon is up an escalator, which is alright, but you think wow, why not a big cinema on the street like in the old days, a massive poster spread to lure you in? There are reasons why not, to avoid queues outside, but they could work around it, I mean Odeon Leicester Square does. It just needs something to break it up a bit. A focal point, some fountains. They do have them, but out of the way, a sort of designated 'fountain area'.
A very good mate of mine is Liverpudlian, and even he won't go back (christ knows I've tried persuading him), but I can't really talk. Where I come from there's 2 decent shops and the rest are bars n clubs for the kids to enjoy.
Each city has its plus and minuses. Dublin is beautiful but pricey, London has everything but it's crazily crowded, Birmingham has a great centre but the outskirts are scary, Manchester is great when it's great, but bloody scary when it goes tits up, and Southampton is.... well, just full of bloody roundabouts, probably to stop the locals escaping.
Okay, Jarvio, but when did you go? Recently or 20 years ago? I would have liked to go to uni here 2 decades ago, prefer it to where I did go, Bristol, that said it seems Liverpool has an even greater part to play in the slave trade than Bristol did. And frankly, the new Liverpool One shopping centre is just like the uber-bland and unloved Broadmeads shopping centre in Bristol, so you wouldn't know the difference.
I'd open to hear what you liked about Liverpool, of course it's all relative. Compared to other places, it would be good enough, but it manages to look both tarted up and run down at the same time.
Okay, Jarvio, but when did you go? Recently or 20 years ago? I would have liked to go to uni here 2 decades ago, prefer it to where I did go, Bristol, that said it seems Liverpool has an even greater part to play in the slave trade than Bristol did. And frankly, the new Liverpool One shopping centre is just like the uber-bland and unloved Broadmeads shopping centre in Bristol, so you wouldn't know the difference.
I'd open to hear what you liked about Liverpool, of course it's all relative. Compared to other places, it would be good enough, but it manages to look both tarted up and run down at the same time.
Hmm, well I guess everyone has different experiences of places. I went to uni there from 2007-2010 (so fairly recent). What I liked? Well, I just thought the city was rather vibrant with a lot to offer. There seemed to be lots to do, and I found the city very visual. I liked the architecture of the buildings too, and found the whole city to have lots of character. The night life was fantastic (bare in mind I'm 26, don't know how old you are, but obviously different things will appeal to different ages). I personally like Liverpool One, but to each their own.
The outskirts were quite bad though - but that's the case with many, many cities. I lived in the smithdown area (not great). But, the parts of liverpool that I liked were all in the city centre - and the docks too. I guess it's just all down to personal taste.
Albert Docks is ok in a gentrified kind of way. All these dock areas tend to be like that, be it Waterside in Bristol or St Katherine's Docks in London, nr Tower Bridge. I had a nice coffee cake there in one of the shops there.
Actually Liverpool One is okay, though like I say it could be in San Diego or anywhere. I got it mixed up with the main pedestrianised high street, Lord Street I think, though it dissects another one, I still can't make it out, they sort of all blend in together, one shopping centre onto another, starting from not far off Lime Street Station. The Cavern Quarter is all run down and a bit rough, I was going to stop for a drink in The Grapes but just couldn't in the end.
No, have not tasted the nightlife and won't see 40 again, will take by baggy Gap pullover and Clarke's shoes someplace else soon!
Liverpool sort of grows on you, but Manchester makes it seem very provincial; it's a real city with the feel of some heritage upon which they can build; L'pool on the other hand seems to have been built from scratch like a blind man throwing on clothes.
That said, the parks are very nice. If you go to the top of the big red brick Anglian Cathedral you get a great view of the city, including Stanley and Sefton Parks. The latter has a lake and pergolas; it's a bit like London's Hyde Park, with a bandstand said to have inspired Sgt Pepper. If you take exit 5 from the park, it's not far from Penny Lane itself, which has a certain rundown charm, though it is rundown. There is a boarded up Sgt Pepper Bistro on the 'middle of a roundabout' which makes it look like the Blue Meanies have hit down, in the early scenes of Yellow Submarine. Annoyingly, I saw a fire engine slowly pass down Penny Lane before I got a chance to take a picture; after all, a fire engine is in the song. The barber shop is said to be still there, only £10 for wash, cut and blow dry.
From Penny Lane it's a fair walk but doable to John Lennon's house, up Menlove Avenue, which is more of a leafy boulevard, very middle class especially as you get to Woolton. Turns out Lennon played up his Scouse accent as an early Beatle for comic or class effect, his Aunt Mimi with whom he lived as a teen didn't allow him to talk like that. And Macca had to be vouched for and approved on his arrival, as he was from a more working class area - luckily he had quite refined manners and got by, but George Harrison didn't get such a warm welcome, as he always sounded more Scouse and dressed like a teddy boy.
Round the corner from Lennon's house is Strawberry Fields, which was formerly an orphanage but now has big red replacement gates behind which it is all overgrown. Another trek uphill and you get to Woolton Abbey where they had the fete where Lennon met Macca in the 1950s (the band played at the town hall opposite) and where, spookily enough, a character called Eleanor Rigby is buried, prior to when Macca wrote the song.
You can do a National Trust trip to see inside Lennon's house and McCartney's house, it's £20 and not bad value, though the people who hold a talk while you're there do have you feel like you've had information overload a bit.
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Yes, many school children would happily make that mistake.
And yes, I made a fool of myself.
Not the same latitude as Copenhagen though not far off, it's south of it.
English is the native language.
No, it's not in France.
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TIS - "The moment you think you got it figured - you're wrong"
Formerly known as Teppo
I went to Liverpool some 20 years ago on a day trip from rainy Manchester and like it a lot, it was a sunny day and you get that big building as you come out of Lime St Station.
I won't knock the people, they seem nice enough if maybe a bit chippy, you get the sense that if you're not as friendly as them, they could turn harsh. The accent is like Stevie Gerrard, not like The Beatles at all, in fact you could spead an urban myth that they're from Birmingham and it might take.
But the city does seem a bit odd. The Liverpool One shopping mall is new and so huge, it could be like any open air mall in Europe, it's utterly bland with the same shops - Topman, Toni&Guy, River Island, Boots, Debenhams, John Lewis, Costa Coffee, Pret, Starbucks and so on that you get anywhere. I've been here a few days now and I can't really figure out where is what in it, there are no landmarks at all like a clock tower, the shops are the landmarks. You look down the street and think, right, that's John Lewis, so we're facing that way round.
Liverpool is just one big shopping centre now, soulless it seems. You can't believe there's enough folk to be in the shops, there are so many of them. It's like the shops mean you have to buy. With these big malls, they have you in their grip, because unlike the old high street shops, they can't be converted into anything else like houses or accommodation. Without flats or apartments or even offices nearby, it loses its human perspective. It's very badly designed, but it's not Liverpool's fault. There's a similar venture on smaller scale in St Paul's, London. The shops are all high end, and soulless. The ratio of quirky little newsagents and artisan places to generic chain stores is very low.
With all that, the town planners knocked down the original Cavern. 8-)
It's Beatles everywhere. Here, There and Bloody Everywhere. I like them, perhaps that makes it worse, in the same way that a woman who hates sex might be a better prostitute, if you hated the Fabs maybe it could just wash over you. I'm from London, which the Beatles frankly made their adopted city, so in any tat store you have the Stones, the Who, the Beatles etc, they're leaders of a scene. Here they're demi gods, and it gets me down. I find myself thinking, well, what about Frankie Goes to Hollywood? Or Echo and the Bunnymen?
Despite all this, the Beatles Story exhibition is said to be rubbish, and not worth the £15 admission. The shop is tatty and sells CDs not in their plastic covering, for £17 or so. Like, can't you get it from amazon for a tenner!
I went on the ferry, not bad, but the waterfront with iconic Liver Building don't look so good.
The town planners of L'pool should be shot. It's just a jumble box room of odds and ends buildings that don't quite fit together, unlike the redevelopment around Tate Modern in London.
The Liverpool Museum is impressive but doesn't quite fit with everything else, but inside it's good stuff with actually a decent Beatles exhibition, it's all free. Interesting to note the history of the city, of course it was the UK's main trading port to all over the world, so very metropolitan, with big links to Shanghai, so a lot of Chinese here. There is a Chinatown, but again the new Liverpool One precinct doesn't have that international, vibrant flavour to it all all. Not only that, but other areas are shopping centres too but rundown. It's like the guy whose house is a mess, but rather than tidy it and renovate, builds a massive annex that's shiny new onto the back.
The Art Academy is good, I felt snobbish when they had a Rolf Harris exhibition there but actually a lot of his Impressionistic stuff is very good, despite his 'comedy' reputation.
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It rained constantly and when we asked in a pub for directions the barman wanted a fiver to tell us. The streets were full of black sooty grime and the whole place had a real run down crap house feel about it. The area by the docks is the worst which is pretty much a real life Lowry painting.
And soon after they named it the European city of culture.
I'd say it's more like the global sh1tty of cultures, moulds and fungi.
I hope it's gotten better since then.
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Well, I don't mean to be rude, I think Strangeways is from these parts, but for all its revamp it still seems like a big Croydon, or maybe Brighton without the charm (lots of squarking seagulls around, pushy f***ckers too). A lot of the big buildings, like the ones I pictured, look like they could do with a good clean, surely it can't cost that much compared to a billion-pound shopping mall? There are nice touches, such as the Liverpool Ice Cream Vans - good 99 flake too, no rubbish stuff - and lots of pianos in the centre for folk to play on, mind you, London have that a month back too.
It's like, the Odeon is up an escalator, which is alright, but you think wow, why not a big cinema on the street like in the old days, a massive poster spread to lure you in? There are reasons why not, to avoid queues outside, but they could work around it, I mean Odeon Leicester Square does. It just needs something to break it up a bit. A focal point, some fountains. They do have them, but out of the way, a sort of designated 'fountain area'.
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Each city has its plus and minuses. Dublin is beautiful but pricey, London has everything but it's crazily crowded, Birmingham has a great centre but the outskirts are scary, Manchester is great when it's great, but bloody scary when it goes tits up, and Southampton is.... well, just full of bloody roundabouts, probably to stop the locals escaping.
Sorry Southampton.
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I'd open to hear what you liked about Liverpool, of course it's all relative. Compared to other places, it would be good enough, but it manages to look both tarted up and run down at the same time.
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Hmm, well I guess everyone has different experiences of places. I went to uni there from 2007-2010 (so fairly recent). What I liked? Well, I just thought the city was rather vibrant with a lot to offer. There seemed to be lots to do, and I found the city very visual. I liked the architecture of the buildings too, and found the whole city to have lots of character. The night life was fantastic (bare in mind I'm 26, don't know how old you are, but obviously different things will appeal to different ages). I personally like Liverpool One, but to each their own.
The outskirts were quite bad though - but that's the case with many, many cities. I lived in the smithdown area (not great). But, the parts of liverpool that I liked were all in the city centre - and the docks too. I guess it's just all down to personal taste.
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Actually Liverpool One is okay, though like I say it could be in San Diego or anywhere. I got it mixed up with the main pedestrianised high street, Lord Street I think, though it dissects another one, I still can't make it out, they sort of all blend in together, one shopping centre onto another, starting from not far off Lime Street Station. The Cavern Quarter is all run down and a bit rough, I was going to stop for a drink in The Grapes but just couldn't in the end.
No, have not tasted the nightlife and won't see 40 again, will take by baggy Gap pullover and Clarke's shoes someplace else soon!
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That said, the parks are very nice. If you go to the top of the big red brick Anglian Cathedral you get a great view of the city, including Stanley and Sefton Parks. The latter has a lake and pergolas; it's a bit like London's Hyde Park, with a bandstand said to have inspired Sgt Pepper. If you take exit 5 from the park, it's not far from Penny Lane itself, which has a certain rundown charm, though it is rundown. There is a boarded up Sgt Pepper Bistro on the 'middle of a roundabout' which makes it look like the Blue Meanies have hit down, in the early scenes of Yellow Submarine. Annoyingly, I saw a fire engine slowly pass down Penny Lane before I got a chance to take a picture; after all, a fire engine is in the song. The barber shop is said to be still there, only £10 for wash, cut and blow dry.
From Penny Lane it's a fair walk but doable to John Lennon's house, up Menlove Avenue, which is more of a leafy boulevard, very middle class especially as you get to Woolton. Turns out Lennon played up his Scouse accent as an early Beatle for comic or class effect, his Aunt Mimi with whom he lived as a teen didn't allow him to talk like that. And Macca had to be vouched for and approved on his arrival, as he was from a more working class area - luckily he had quite refined manners and got by, but George Harrison didn't get such a warm welcome, as he always sounded more Scouse and dressed like a teddy boy.
Round the corner from Lennon's house is Strawberry Fields, which was formerly an orphanage but now has big red replacement gates behind which it is all overgrown. Another trek uphill and you get to Woolton Abbey where they had the fete where Lennon met Macca in the 1950s (the band played at the town hall opposite) and where, spookily enough, a character called Eleanor Rigby is buried, prior to when Macca wrote the song.
You can do a National Trust trip to see inside Lennon's house and McCartney's house, it's £20 and not bad value, though the people who hold a talk while you're there do have you feel like you've had information overload a bit.
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3) Is it East of Berlin?
christ i've really gotta get to the opticians. either that or stop 'google image searching' eva green late at night.
4) is it east of ber...... ah ffs.
4) is it north or south of france?
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