That's an interpretation of what "limited edition" could mean, but it's not necessarily true.
Actually, by definition, That's exactly what it means: "An edition of an object, limited to a specific number of copies."
I could google-search the words "limited edition" and post a few definitions as well, but it wouldn't make them "exact" or definitive. That's just the definition that you've chosen to accept because it fits your logic. Even that definition is vague, at best (limited to how many copies, spread over how many production cycles and releases?). As far as I know, Barbour never answered either of those questions. Overzealous fans concocted answers for themselves. If it makes you feel better, then I'll play along, but that won't change the facts or the production issue that started this discussion.
Bugatti Veyron, ever since its inception in 2000, and since the moment in went on sale in 2005, have always stated that there were only 400 of the 16.4. After the 399th was sold (the last one is in the VAG museum) thats it.
They announced the Pure Blood, only 5. Sold the last one, that's it.
Lexus said from the very beginning in 2000 that they will only make/sell 500 LFA's, the last one sold last year. Thats it.
They announced the program being shutdown, and moved on.
Commodities like clothes will never be "limited edition". I cannot think of a single piece or item that was made available to the public that was "limited". They plan for a production run, source materials/labor/manufacturing/etc. When the resources are exhausted, they move on. Exception to this is of course BR, Barbour, etc etc.
Bugatti Veyron, ever since its inception in 2000, and since the moment in went on sale in 2005, have always stated that there were only 400 of the 16.4. After the 399th was sold (the last one is in the VAG museum) thats it.
They announced the Pure Blood, only 5. Sold the last one, that's it.
Lexus said from the very beginning in 2000 that they will only make/sell 500 LFA's, the last one sold last year. Thats it.
They announced the program being shutdown, and moved on.
Commodities like clothes will never be "limited edition". I cannot think of a single piece or item that was made available to the public that was "limited". They plan for a production run, source materials/labor/manufacturing/etc. When the resources are exhausted, they move on. Exception to this is of course BR, Barbour, etc etc.
+1 on this. "Limited edition" can mean almost anything until you set up the parameters. People can believe what they want, but they'll just keep being disappointed when their assumptions don't match reality.
Can we please put the 'limited edition' debate to bed. It's clogging up this intriguing and insightful topic with irrelevant discussion that will continuously rotate in endless circles.
Yes, if you are lucky enough to own the jacket you will naturally want be in an inclusive group, however, we have exhausted the issue of 'limited edition' and all views have been discussed in fine detail.
The fact of the matter is the exclusiveness of this jacket lies in the hands of Barbour. I ask that we re-establish the core values of this forum to its original intended purpose, which is to inform lovers of this jacket of relevant information and photos which has lead to this forum been so wonderfully addictive as I so profoundly used to remembered it for.
My problem with the button spacing is the issue I would have with any other piece of clothing. when I purchase something from any company I expect it to look as it was advertised. I wouldn't expect to buy a suit jacket with the button stance changed, and I wouldn't want to buy a pair of boots and have the number of laces modified. I know its a small thing but I am a detail orientated person and issues like this bother me. I do not really care for making this jacket "SA", i just really like the design of the jacket as it was produced
So, the question could now be, "Are there any XL's or XXL's with SA button spacing?
Also, I am not a SA kind of fan. I saw the Barbour and the Menlo in the theaters and wanted them for myself. I got the information on this site and now own them...to wear. And I have been, and am completely satisfied. If I hadn't already purchased them, I'd order the new Commander and hunt down the Menlo.
My problem with the button spacing is the issue I would have with any other piece of clothing. when I purchase something from any company I expect it to look as it was advertised. I wouldn't expect to buy a suit jacket with the button stance changed, and I wouldn't want to buy a pair of boots and have the number of laces modified. I know its a small thing but I am a detail orientated person and issues like this bother me. I do not really care for making this jacket "SA", i just really like the design of the jacket as it was produced
however small the detail, in the end its not what you expected. I agree that an item should match the pictures posted by any retailer. If we, as consumers, give any leeway in this, it could lead to further problems (buying a blue coat and getting a red). I know, its a slippery slope falicy arguement but thats not to say it has absolutely no validity. Its only buttons but you bought something thats different than you expected and different that the pictures you based your purchase on.
My problem with the button spacing is the issue I would have with any other piece of clothing. when I purchase something from any company I expect it to look as it was advertised. I wouldn't expect to buy a suit jacket with the button stance changed, and I wouldn't want to buy a pair of boots and have the number of laces modified. I know its a small thing but I am a detail orientated person and issues like this bother me. I do not really care for making this jacket "SA", i just really like the design of the jacket as it was produced
I really can't see the issue here. The jacket released in AW12 is limited edition. The new limited edition Commander jacket for AW13 has no hood, is a different fitting, has no storm flap, is from a different section of the Barbour line-up, had a different tartan interior and isn't in collaboration with TO KI TO.
To me it has too many differences to be considered the same jacket.
My XL has SA buttons, but I bought it in October 2012 after I saw the stock image from Barbour on the Bond Lifestyle site way before I saw any stills from the movie. I was not aware what alts had been made at the time.
I managed to get another XL (2013) from Aspecto which I passed on to a member on here, but that did NOT have SA buttons.
So, the question could now be, "Are there any XL's or XXL's with SA button spacing?
Also, I am not a SA kind of fan. I saw the Barbour and the Menlo in the theaters and wanted them for myself. I got the information on this site and now own them...to wear. And I have been, and am completely satisfied. If I hadn't already purchased them, I'd order the new Commander and hunt down the Menlo.
I have a contact at Barbour and am going to get one made bespoke
Ross
Yours at least is going to be a truly limited edition! Lucky man!
Edition of two larges being slotted into the production line with correct button placement, I'm going to get one done with the hood and one done screen accurate without and removal of the unrequited buttons etc.
I'm going to see if the will mark them inside showing they are a really limited bespok one
Ross
I have a contact at Barbour and am going to get one made bespoke
Ross
Yours at least is going to be a truly limited edition! Lucky man!
Edition of two larges being slotted into the production line with correct button placement, I'm going to get one done with the hood and one done screen accurate without and removal of the unrequited buttons etc.
I'm going to see if the will mark them inside showing they are a really limited bespok one
Ross
Large beacon heritage for sale! Too big sadly so any takers pm me. In the UK and open to offers, though could prob post abroad also. Brand new with tags and receipt by the way
All I can say is that the people at Cultizm were amazing. I ordered a medium jacket Monday and already received it today! I asked them ahead of time if the jacket had the right button placement and they told me it did, so no surprises there. they also labeled the package a cotton track jacket at a value of $120 so I didn't have to pay any import tax! They really know what they are doing.
This new medium feels like it fits more slim also, as I still have the other jacket to compare, almost less boxy in a way.
I received my large barbour sports jacket yesterday. The jacket itself is a fabulous garment, constructed of excellent quality material. It feels and looks an expensive jacket, which I was expecting, considering the expensive price tag.
I generally wear a medium jacket, but from reading reviews and articles about the jacket I bought a large. However I would advice anybody who normally wears a medium to buy a medium as the large is a little big on me and it fits the same as a large in most other jackets. It is definitely not an exceptionally tight fit as I had previously thought it might have been.
My overall opinion on the jacket is that I am glad I bought it. It is a fine garment that is well made, however, I do feel that it is a little over hyped and anybody who is under pressure to get funds together for the jacket should think twice before purchasing it as there are more budget friendly jackets out there that will (almost) equally match the aesthetics of this jacket.
Maybe i'm on my own on this but is it really as nice as the hype and price tag suggests it should be?
I received my large barbour sports jacket yesterday. The jacket itself is a fabulous garment, constructed of excellent quality material. It feels and looks an expensive jacket, which I was expecting, considering the expensive price tag.
I generally wear a medium jacket, but from reading reviews and articles about the jacket I bought a large. However I would advice anybody who normally wears a medium to buy a medium as the large is a little big on me and it fits the same as a large in most other jackets. It is definitely not an exceptionally tight fit as I had previously thought it might have been.
My overall opinion on the jacket is that I am glad I bought it. It is a fine garment that is well made, however, I do feel that it is a little over hyped and anybody who is under pressure to get funds together for the jacket should think twice before purchasing it as there are more budget friendly jackets out there that will (almost) equally match the aesthetics of this jacket.
Maybe i'm on my own on this but is it really as nice as the hype and price tag suggests it should be?
I would advise everyone to ignore this message as regards sizing advice. Asthetics is down to personal preference but these jackets run inredibly tightly across the back, shoulder and under the armpits. These pages upon pages of information on this site that support this and not without reason.
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I could google-search the words "limited edition" and post a few definitions as well, but it wouldn't make them "exact" or definitive. That's just the definition that you've chosen to accept because it fits your logic. Even that definition is vague, at best (limited to how many copies, spread over how many production cycles and releases?). As far as I know, Barbour never answered either of those questions. Overzealous fans concocted answers for themselves. If it makes you feel better, then I'll play along, but that won't change the facts or the production issue that started this discussion.
Examples of true "limited edition":
Bugatti Veyron, ever since its inception in 2000, and since the moment in went on sale in 2005, have always stated that there were only 400 of the 16.4. After the 399th was sold (the last one is in the VAG museum) thats it.
They announced the Pure Blood, only 5. Sold the last one, that's it.
Lexus said from the very beginning in 2000 that they will only make/sell 500 LFA's, the last one sold last year. Thats it.
They announced the program being shutdown, and moved on.
Commodities like clothes will never be "limited edition". I cannot think of a single piece or item that was made available to the public that was "limited". They plan for a production run, source materials/labor/manufacturing/etc. When the resources are exhausted, they move on. Exception to this is of course BR, Barbour, etc etc.
+1 on this. "Limited edition" can mean almost anything until you set up the parameters. People can believe what they want, but they'll just keep being disappointed when their assumptions don't match reality.
Yes, if you are lucky enough to own the jacket you will naturally want be in an inclusive group, however, we have exhausted the issue of 'limited edition' and all views have been discussed in fine detail.
The fact of the matter is the exclusiveness of this jacket lies in the hands of Barbour. I ask that we re-establish the core values of this forum to its original intended purpose, which is to inform lovers of this jacket of relevant information and photos which has lead to this forum been so wonderfully addictive as I so profoundly used to remembered it for.
Also, I am not a SA kind of fan. I saw the Barbour and the Menlo in the theaters and wanted them for myself. I got the information on this site and now own them...to wear. And I have been, and am completely satisfied. If I hadn't already purchased them, I'd order the new Commander and hunt down the Menlo.
however small the detail, in the end its not what you expected. I agree that an item should match the pictures posted by any retailer. If we, as consumers, give any leeway in this, it could lead to further problems (buying a blue coat and getting a red). I know, its a slippery slope falicy arguement but thats not to say it has absolutely no validity. Its only buttons but you bought something thats different than you expected and different that the pictures you based your purchase on.
+1
To me it has too many differences to be considered the same jacket.
I managed to get another XL (2013) from Aspecto which I passed on to a member on here, but that did NOT have SA buttons.
Ross
Awesome! I don't suppose the Tom Ford suit vineyard is around there too
Yours at least is going to be a truly limited edition! Lucky man!
1.SF 2.CR 3.OHMSS 4.DN 5.YOLT
Edition of two larges being slotted into the production line with correct button placement, I'm going to get one done with the hood and one done screen accurate without and removal of the unrequited buttons etc.
I'm going to see if the will mark them inside showing they are a really limited bespok one
Ross
How much is that going to cost you?
http://www.asos.com/ASOS/ASOS-Hunting-Jacket/Prod/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=2199189&cid=8188&sh=0&pge=2&pgesize=200&sort=-1&clr=Olive&affid=5571&WT.srch=1
Apply some Barbour wax for a tenner and it looks pretty close, for a tenth of the price.
That's pretty damn nice! Might get one of those, can't argue at that for £25. I wouldn't even bother waxing it, it's a lovely jacket as it is! Thanks!
Pm sent
Excellent service from Kafka, by the way. I highly recommend them.
Ill swap for your sample? :-)
This new medium feels like it fits more slim also, as I still have the other jacket to compare, almost less boxy in a way.
I generally wear a medium jacket, but from reading reviews and articles about the jacket I bought a large. However I would advice anybody who normally wears a medium to buy a medium as the large is a little big on me and it fits the same as a large in most other jackets. It is definitely not an exceptionally tight fit as I had previously thought it might have been.
My overall opinion on the jacket is that I am glad I bought it. It is a fine garment that is well made, however, I do feel that it is a little over hyped and anybody who is under pressure to get funds together for the jacket should think twice before purchasing it as there are more budget friendly jackets out there that will (almost) equally match the aesthetics of this jacket.
Maybe i'm on my own on this but is it really as nice as the hype and price tag suggests it should be?
I would advise everyone to ignore this message as regards sizing advice. Asthetics is down to personal preference but these jackets run inredibly tightly across the back, shoulder and under the armpits. These pages upon pages of information on this site that support this and not without reason.