Others have made this point about the sizing of the jacket, but I'll reiterate: it does give a bit and stretch out after some usage. I opted for the Medium and it still felt too tight around the armholes the first couple times I wore it, but I do feel a little more comfortable in it. Could just be me getting used to it, but more I think it's that the jacket is stretching out a little.
I have a thin, light Patagonia Nano Puff jacket that I'm hoping will eventually fit under the Sports Jacket as a kind of lining to make it better suited to colder weather when layered and at first I thought this was a pipe dream, but I think it will end up working pretty well.
So do I need to send it to Barbour if I want the sleeves shorted a little?
Barbour says you should because of the wax cotton. Apparently they have the machines to do alterations effectively.
Others have made this point about the sizing of the jacket, but I'll reiterate: it does give a bit and stretch out after some usage. I opted for the Medium and it still felt too tight around the armholes the first couple times I wore it, but I do feel a little more comfortable in it. Could just be me getting used to it, but more I think it's that the jacket is stretching out a little.
I have a thin, light Patagonia Nano Puff jacket that I'm hoping will eventually fit under the Sports Jacket as a kind of lining to make it better suited to colder weather when layered and at first I thought this was a pipe dream, but I think it will end up working pretty well.
So do I need to send it to Barbour if I want the sleeves shorted a little?
Barbour says you should because of the wax cotton. Apparently they have the machines to do alterations effectively.
But Barbour also confirmed to me if they shorten the sleeves they don't move the elbow patch so you lose the space between patch and leather cuff binding, something worth thinking about.
But Barbour also confirmed to me if they shorten the sleeves they don't move the elbow patch so you lose the space between patch and leather cuff binding, something worth thinking about.
Ah, that's a good point. As shown below, the space between the end of the patch and the leather cuff is minimal. I would only want the sleeves shortened by an inch or so, but that would wipe out this space unless they shortened the sleeve from the other end, but that would be more complicated and they probably wouldn't do that either due to the little air vent holes (is that what you call them?) up top.
Probably better to leave the sleeves alone unless I can get the Skyfall wardrobe crew involved. -{
Having the sleeves slighty long may not be as stylish but it's certainly more utilitarian.
I do a fair amount of bushcrafting and having sleeves that protect your hands from the wind and rain is a good thing.
They are also nice if you ride a motorbike. Most Belstaff jackets have the longer sleeves as well.
I suppose the long sleeves are a "style" of sorts. But not a popular style for the cat-walk or high-street. Rather it's a style for real people living a real life.
To each his own.
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has anyone here had a a gusset added under the sleeve? this is apparently a common alteration for Barbour. if so any pics?
No, but I had mine altered and rather than 'let the back out', the tailor suggested opening the arm holes a bit, which has made a huge difference to the comfort of the coat.
I also had the sleeves shortened and, yes, you lose that small gap. But, honestly, it's behind the cuff and I really don't have that much of a hankering for complete screen accuracy (I've still loads more buttons than the SA version as well).
...and I had the storm flap removed - terrible bit of design that. Useful I'm sure but just ets in the way and feels uncomfortable.
I was thinking of just cutting out the storm flap..good idea ?! or get a tailor to do it
I find it quite usefull. Keeps the wind and rain out. Plus it keeps it SA
Yeah..Im not bothered about it being SA. I love the design of the jacket and it fts me perfectly you could say tailor made for me. But it is very unlikely that i would ever use the flap. I plan to take it to a costumier friend to have it taken out. Also bare in mind i have a spare unopened boxed one in my loft ;%
...and I had the storm flap removed - terrible bit of design that. Useful I'm sure but just ets in the way and feels uncomfortable.
I was thinking of just cutting out the storm flap..good idea ?! or get a tailor to do it
I hated the flap ... gets in the way of the inside pocket plus makes the jacket sit funny when it's folded back inside. I also thought it looked funny when it was done up in 'function' mode.
My tailor (who is Mike Tyson's UK tailor don't cha know) has made a lovely job of it - you'd never know it was there. I would worry that it could nd up quite messy if you tried to cut it out yourself.
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One thing I noticed and have had confirmed, is the fact that the strip where the hood was fastened is not going to be on the new Commander jacket coming in July/August. I quite like it being there aesthetically, although not providing any useful function, it's on the screen used one and I think it's a shame they haven't included it on the Commander.
One thing I noticed and have had confirmed, is the fact that the strip where the hood was fastened is not going to be on the new Commander jacket coming in July/August. I quite like it being there aesthetically, although not providing any useful function, it's on the screen used one and I think it's a shame they haven't included it on the Commander.
It would leave a noticeable mark if removed. Taking the zipper out and re stitching it prevents that.
The storm flap is actually pretty nice when you do need to use it, but I admit it's kind of annoying when you don't want it.
What happens if you need your sleeves shortened beyond the original edge of the patches? Why won't they just move them up a little? I don't understand...it should be a simple operation.
quick edit: Another question: anyone else have an issue with the liner in the sleeves? Mine bunches up/gets pushed out, and tends to push my shirt/sweater sleeves back up my arms. I have to hold on to my shirt cuffs most times if I don't want them to ride up.
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One thing I noticed and have had confirmed, is the fact that the strip where the hood was fastened is not going to be on the new Commander jacket coming in July/August. I quite like it being there aesthetically, although not providing any useful function, it's on the screen used one and I think it's a shame they haven't included it on the Commander.
It would leave a noticeable mark if removed. Taking the zipper out and re stitching it prevents that.
I'm talking about the new coat. It isn't there at all.
As for the ToKito, you don't need to unpick and restitch to remove the zipper.
The storm flap is actually pretty nice when you do need to use it, but I admit it's kind of annoying when you don't want it.
What happens if you need your sleeves shortened beyond the original edge of the patches? Why won't they just move them up a little? I don't understand...it should be a simple operation.
quick edit: Another question: anyone else have an issue with the liner in the sleeves? Mine bunches up/gets pushed out, and tends to push my shirt/sweater sleeves back up my arms. I have to hold on to my shirt cuffs most times if I don't want them to ride up.
The only issue i have with the jacket is you sweat like a trooper in it. Which is ironic really considering it is 100% waterproof so just gets soaked from the inside
The storm flap is actually pretty nice when you do need to use it, but I admit it's kind of annoying when you don't want it.
What happens if you need your sleeves shortened beyond the original edge of the patches? Why won't they just move them up a little? I don't understand...it should be a simple operation.
quick edit: Another question: anyone else have an issue with the liner in the sleeves? Mine bunches up/gets pushed out, and tends to push my shirt/sweater sleeves back up my arms. I have to hold on to my shirt cuffs most times if I don't want them to ride up.
They say they do not move elbow patches as it will leave a mark.
The storm flap is actually pretty nice when you do need to use it, but I admit it's kind of annoying when you don't want it.
What happens if you need your sleeves shortened beyond the original edge of the patches? Why won't they just move them up a little? I don't understand...it should be a simple operation.
quick edit: Another question: anyone else have an issue with the liner in the sleeves? Mine bunches up/gets pushed out, and tends to push my shirt/sweater sleeves back up my arms. I have to hold on to my shirt cuffs most times if I don't want them to ride up.
The only issue i have with the jacket is you sweat like a trooper in it. Which is ironic really considering it is 100% waterproof so just gets soaked from the inside
Makes me re-think how many layers I'm wearing sometimes. I wore it with a t-shirt the other day and it was actually pretty great.
The storm flap is actually pretty nice when you do need to use it, but I admit it's kind of annoying when you don't want it.
What happens if you need your sleeves shortened beyond the original edge of the patches? Why won't they just move them up a little? I don't understand...it should be a simple operation.
quick edit: Another question: anyone else have an issue with the liner in the sleeves? Mine bunches up/gets pushed out, and tends to push my shirt/sweater sleeves back up my arms. I have to hold on to my shirt cuffs most times if I don't want them to ride up.
They say they do not move elbow patches as it will leave a mark.
I wonder how Skyfall's costumers did it, or if they had Barbour do it. I'd think treating the area with water and then wax would seal it up, given that it's just a stitch.
The storm flap is actually pretty nice when you do need to use it, but I admit it's kind of annoying when you don't want it.
What happens if you need your sleeves shortened beyond the original edge of the patches? Why won't they just move them up a little? I don't understand...it should be a simple operation.
quick edit: Another question: anyone else have an issue with the liner in the sleeves? Mine bunches up/gets pushed out, and tends to push my shirt/sweater sleeves back up my arms. I have to hold on to my shirt cuffs most times if I don't want them to ride up.
The only issue i have with the jacket is you sweat like a trooper in it. Which is ironic really considering it is 100% waterproof so just gets soaked from the inside
I completely agree. Today's weather here in my area (Southern Ontario, Canada) was about 4C with sunshine and the lining was wet eventhough I only wore a tshirt with a long sleeve under armour collar shirt. I was wet even at night!
anyone else have an issue with the liner in the sleeves? Mine bunches up/gets pushed out, and tends to push my shirt/sweater sleeves back up my arms. I have to hold on to my shirt cuffs most times if I don't want them to ride up.
Yes, me. It always comes out at the end, I have to pull it back in all the time. Between that and the internal storm flap that also pisses me off, this jacket is slipping right down my list of jackets I go for. Shame really as there is so much good about this jacket but the annoying bits are starting to be more annoying. Maybe I'll sell it.
We all bought the jacket for no other reason that JB wore is for 20 mins in a film and we all thought it looked cool and went and bought one. Its a designer Barbour and not what I would call a real Outdoors Jacket there are plenty of other version made by Barbour that fit that label much better. The To Ki To is a designer Barbour made so for the Asian market nothing more nothing less. If you have been to Asia you would probably realise a Barbour is the last thing you need out there for most of the year!
We all traded an arm (or a leg as well in some cases) to get one to fulfil our need have one (question did you really need one answer No but you had to have one). The fit is snug for Westerners, the coat if unbutchered will generally do as it says on the time but still some are not happy about fit, perspiration causing dampness inside. Lets face it we are field testing this jacket a damn sight more than JB did, DC only wore it for a few days of filming max. It was chosen by costumers for its fictional look and not its practical use. If you think otherwise you just spent pounds or dollars more than you need too! )
We should accept it for what it is a decent (though maybe over priced Barbour jacket) that will deliver in most weathers, that was never designed for westerners anyway and thus because of its snug fit may cause perspiration/condensation on the inside due to lack of airflow.
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However looks cool and was worn by JB for 20 mins in a film and we own one aren't we lucky! B-)
Cheers
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I would love to own one, i think all you people moaning about the jacket don't deserve to own it, and if you hate it that much you can give the jacket to me. It's a limited edition Barbour as seen in skyfall, And it looks great. what more do you want. -{
We all bought the jacket for no other reason that JB wore is for 20 mins in a film and we all thought it looked cool and went and bought one. Its a designer Barbour and not what I would call a real Outdoors Jacket there are plenty of other version made by Barbour that fit that label much better. The To Ki To is a designer Barbour made so for the Asian market nothing more nothing less. If you have been to Asia you would probably realise a Barbour is the last thing you need out there for most of the year!
We all traded an arm (or a leg as well in some cases) to get one to fulfil our need have one (question did you really need one answer No but you had to have one). The fit is snug for Westerners, the coat if unbutchered will generally do as it says on the time but still some are not happy about fit, perspiration causing dampness inside. Lets face it we are field testing this jacket a damn sight more than JB did, DC only wore it for a few days of filming max. It was chosen by costumers for its fictional look and not its practical use. If you think otherwise you just spent pounds or dollars more than you need too! )
We should accept it for what it is a decent (though maybe over priced Barbour jacket) that will deliver in most weathers, that was never designed for westerners anyway and thus because of its snug fit may cause perspiration/condensation on the inside due to lack of airflow.
However looks cool and was worn by JB for 20 mins in a film and we own one aren't we lucky! B-)
Cheers
I have to disagree on the fit of this jacket. Yes it is slim, but I don't think it's too slim for "Westerners". That's a matter of opinion. I think slim fit is perfect. I think the majority of people on the forum wear their clothes a little on the "looser" side and the slim fit is a major change for them, and they don't like it. That's the issue. I think people were expecting a "regular" Barbour fit such as the Bedale or Beaufort jacket. To me, those are baggy jackets. The To Ki To is a perfect slim fit Barbour, but yes I do agree it is a "designer" Barbour jacket. It's a collab!
I feel like I'm reading about the Levi's x Filson jacket from another forum. People had the same issues due to the slim fit and oilyness to it.
Bottom line, if you don't want a slim fit jacket, this probably isn't the jacket for you.
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But Barbour also confirmed to me if they shorten the sleeves they don't move the elbow patch so you lose the space between patch and leather cuff binding, something worth thinking about.
Ah, that's a good point. As shown below, the space between the end of the patch and the leather cuff is minimal. I would only want the sleeves shortened by an inch or so, but that would wipe out this space unless they shortened the sleeve from the other end, but that would be more complicated and they probably wouldn't do that either due to the little air vent holes (is that what you call them?) up top.
Probably better to leave the sleeves alone unless I can get the Skyfall wardrobe crew involved. -{
I do a fair amount of bushcrafting and having sleeves that protect your hands from the wind and rain is a good thing.
They are also nice if you ride a motorbike. Most Belstaff jackets have the longer sleeves as well.
I suppose the long sleeves are a "style" of sorts. But not a popular style for the cat-walk or high-street. Rather it's a style for real people living a real life.
To each his own.
No, but I had mine altered and rather than 'let the back out', the tailor suggested opening the arm holes a bit, which has made a huge difference to the comfort of the coat.
I also had the sleeves shortened and, yes, you lose that small gap. But, honestly, it's behind the cuff and I really don't have that much of a hankering for complete screen accuracy (I've still loads more buttons than the SA version as well).
I was thinking of just cutting out the storm flap..good idea ?! or get a tailor to do it
I find it quite usefull. Keeps the wind and rain out. Plus it keeps it SA
Yeah..Im not bothered about it being SA. I love the design of the jacket and it fts me perfectly you could say tailor made for me. But it is very unlikely that i would ever use the flap. I plan to take it to a costumier friend to have it taken out. Also bare in mind i have a spare unopened boxed one in my loft ;%
I hated the flap ... gets in the way of the inside pocket plus makes the jacket sit funny when it's folded back inside. I also thought it looked funny when it was done up in 'function' mode.
My tailor (who is Mike Tyson's UK tailor don't cha know) has made a lovely job of it - you'd never know it was there. I would worry that it could nd up quite messy if you tried to cut it out yourself.
i kept it in and have learned to live with it.
I'd sooner wear a scarf
For me, it's a design item too far.
de in Bulgaria tag right in front. Great jacket and fit.
It would leave a noticeable mark if removed. Taking the zipper out and re stitching it prevents that.
What happens if you need your sleeves shortened beyond the original edge of the patches? Why won't they just move them up a little? I don't understand...it should be a simple operation.
quick edit: Another question: anyone else have an issue with the liner in the sleeves? Mine bunches up/gets pushed out, and tends to push my shirt/sweater sleeves back up my arms. I have to hold on to my shirt cuffs most times if I don't want them to ride up.
I'm talking about the new coat. It isn't there at all.
As for the ToKito, you don't need to unpick and restitch to remove the zipper.
The only issue i have with the jacket is you sweat like a trooper in it. Which is ironic really considering it is 100% waterproof so just gets soaked from the inside
They say they do not move elbow patches as it will leave a mark.
Makes me re-think how many layers I'm wearing sometimes. I wore it with a t-shirt the other day and it was actually pretty great.
I wonder how Skyfall's costumers did it, or if they had Barbour do it. I'd think treating the area with water and then wax would seal it up, given that it's just a stitch.
I completely agree. Today's weather here in my area (Southern Ontario, Canada) was about 4C with sunshine and the lining was wet eventhough I only wore a tshirt with a long sleeve under armour collar shirt. I was wet even at night!
But still love the jacket 200%
Yes, me. It always comes out at the end, I have to pull it back in all the time. Between that and the internal storm flap that also pisses me off, this jacket is slipping right down my list of jackets I go for. Shame really as there is so much good about this jacket but the annoying bits are starting to be more annoying. Maybe I'll sell it.
We all bought the jacket for no other reason that JB wore is for 20 mins in a film and we all thought it looked cool and went and bought one. Its a designer Barbour and not what I would call a real Outdoors Jacket there are plenty of other version made by Barbour that fit that label much better. The To Ki To is a designer Barbour made so for the Asian market nothing more nothing less. If you have been to Asia you would probably realise a Barbour is the last thing you need out there for most of the year!
We all traded an arm (or a leg as well in some cases) to get one to fulfil our need have one (question did you really need one answer No but you had to have one). The fit is snug for Westerners, the coat if unbutchered will generally do as it says on the time but still some are not happy about fit, perspiration causing dampness inside. Lets face it we are field testing this jacket a damn sight more than JB did, DC only wore it for a few days of filming max. It was chosen by costumers for its fictional look and not its practical use. If you think otherwise you just spent pounds or dollars more than you need too!
We should accept it for what it is a decent (though maybe over priced Barbour jacket) that will deliver in most weathers, that was never designed for westerners anyway and thus because of its snug fit may cause perspiration/condensation on the inside due to lack of airflow.
.
However looks cool and was worn by JB for 20 mins in a film and we own one aren't we lucky! B-)
Cheers
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I feel like I'm reading about the Levi's x Filson jacket from another forum. People had the same issues due to the slim fit and oilyness to it.
Bottom line, if you don't want a slim fit jacket, this probably isn't the jacket for you.