So is AVTAK more popular than DAD?

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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I co-sign! -{
    welshboy78 wrote:


    Sorry but daniel craig for me has ruined the series as bond

    DC and Casino Royale saved the series in my opinion and gave it a good kick up the arse from its stale state :) I think the fuss and acclaim Casino Royale produced sort of proves it was a good decision!
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • GordoLeiterGordoLeiter Posts: 462MI6 Agent
    Hey it took several viewings of CR for me to like Craig as 007 but thats kinda saying much.

    At least Peirce didnt look like he just came out of a retirement home in DAD unlike Roger.
  • HalconHalcon Zen TemplePosts: 487MI6 Agent
    both of these movies are very entertaining, therefore they cant be that bad...

    anybody remember Mystery Men? now that was bad...
  • DTReinsmaDTReinsma Orlando, FL, USAPosts: 81MI6 Agent
    I think DAF and TMWTGG are ranked below both of them, personally.
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    The 5 least popular seem to be (in no particular order) AVTAK, DAD, TMWTGG, DAF, and MR....

    I really like AVTAK, DAF, and TMWTGG.... They may have their flaws, but at least they don't contain either horrible CGI or ridiculous laser battles in space.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    I really like AVTAK, DAF, and TMWTGG.... They may have their flaws, but at least they don't contain either horrible CGI or ridiculous laser battles in space.
    VERY good point. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BodieBodie Posts: 211MI6 Agent
    For me DAD has the edege on AVTAK as a better movie althought both are poor. (MR is the worst by a mile and then DAF).

    The reason I prefer DAD is PB. Rog was far to old in AVTAK. After watching the fight in Stacey's house I though they should have given his stunt double equal billing. When he was with Tanya Roberts he looked like an ageing lounge lizard with his trophy wife. When the lead actor looks tired the whole movie looks tired.

    Pierce Brosnan still looked the part and was convincing in the action scenes. For me that gives DAD the edge. Wasn't a lot else to recommend it.

    The only good thing about both movies is that they forced a rethink among the producers and ushered in a more realistic Bond played by tougher looking actors. TLD and CR are two of my favourite Bond movies.
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    Bodie wrote:
    For me DAD has the edege on AVTAK as a better movie althought both are poor. (MR is the worst by a mile and then DAF).

    The reason I prefer DAD is PB. Rog was far to old in AVTAK. After watching the fight in Stacey's house I though they should have given his stunt double equal billing. When he was with Tanya Roberts he looked like an ageing lounge lizard with his trophy wife. When the lead actor looks tired the whole movie looks tired.

    Pierce Brosnan still looked the part and was convincing in the action scenes. For me that gives DAD the edge. Wasn't a lot else to recommend it.

    The only good thing about both movies is that they forced a rethink among the producers and ushered in a more realistic Bond played by tougher looking actors. TLD and CR are two of my favourite Bond movies.

    Agreed. Neither are good, but at least DAD has a convincing Bond and a really promising first half. AVTAK in my view has neither and is an embarrassment. In DAD whilst elements of the film are embarrassing (terrible CGI, ivisable car ...) the central performance is not.
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    I've re-watched all the bond films minus 2 these past few days (TSWLM and GF, which I will soon), and I STILL can't understand why AVTAK is hated so much. Every time I watch it I enjoy it heavily. And yesterday was no exception. I think it is one of the most exciting, entertaining, and memorable bond films. It aims to give the viewer enjoyment, and exceeds big time IMO.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • moonraker84moonraker84 Posts: 48MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    I've re-watched all the bond films minus 2 these past few days (TSWLM and GF, which I will soon), and I STILL can't understand why AVTAK is hated so much. Every time I watch it I enjoy it heavily. And yesterday was no exception. I think it is one of the most exciting, entertaining, and memorable bond films. It aims to give the viewer enjoyment, and exceeds big time IMO.

    I also enjoy A View To A Kill, i think Walken is a great villain, i like the locations, particularly at ascot, also the closing scene on the golden gate bridge, i havent seen DAD since not long after its release so willl rewatch in the next few weeks as i now have the DVD, but didnt think it was that good.
  • Matt_Double_OMatt_Double_O Posts: 18MI6 Agent
    Some further support for AVTAK here. Zorin is also one of my fave villains, love the PTS and theme, Eiffel tower skydive, Ascot / Zorin's stables, Mine / Golden Gate bridge ending. Mayday is certainly a memorable villain / bond girl. I think as I watched this (and MR) a lot as a kid they have special place in my heart :) . IMO DAD doesn't some close.
  • FelixLeiter ♀FelixLeiter ♀ Staffordshire or a pubPosts: 1,286MI6 Agent
    I really like AVTAK and aside from the aging Moore, I don't think there is anything too bad about it. I think Zorin is a fantastic villain, there are some magnificent action sequences and The fight atop the Golden Gate bridge is magnificent.

    Meanwhile DAD is just horrendous. It has a good start but then turns terrible pretty quickly.
    Relax darling, I'm on top of the situation -{
  • Blood_StoneBlood_Stone Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    Sorry but daniel craig for me has ruined the series as bond. maybe i am wrong, to me he lacks plausible emotion and looks indestructable

    The fight scenes prove that Daniel's Bond is anything, but indestructable. :))
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