I think Quantum, up to now, have had very weak plots, such as the one in QoS, which was hardly something for the world to worry about, unlike SPECTRE’s one in Thunderball.
Besides, “SPECTRE” is a more menacing name than Quantum, which sounds like an airline company.
With it being a reboot, renaissance, a rebirth if you will. Perhaps
Quantum will become SPECTRE after a coup. With a firey young
upstart Blofeld taking over. :007)
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Spectre was more of a big deal in the films than the books. In TB the novel their mission is the last big throw of the dice before retiring rich, after that it's only Blofeld on his own with some hired hands, a sort of Moriaty figure. It's only in the films they were behind everything be it Dr No or Klebb's machinations.
Spectre worked better in the old days when it was all about the Bond cool persona, exotic locations and hardware, now the mystery of what the villain is up to and who they are is a big thing, Spectre seems generally predictable unless they revamped it totally.
With it being a reboot, renaissance, a rebirth if you will. Perhaps
Quantum will become SPECTRE after a coup. With a firey young
upstart Blofeld taking over. :007)
That might be a good next step for Eon: reintroduce/reboot Blofeld, who then takes over Quantum and makes it into a proper threat, that needs the likes of Bond to deal with it.
SPECTRE's story is over. It was part of the Connery era, and should stay that way IMO. For me, quantum is a decent replacement. I hope, and think, it will return in a future bond film. Maybe craig's 4th outing will be "The Property Of A Lady", in which quantum's leader is female. That would be good IMO
SPECTRE's story is over. It was part of the Connery era, and should stay that way IMO. For me, quantum is a decent replacement. I hope, and think, it will return in a future bond film. Maybe craig's 4th outing will be "The Property Of A Lady", in which quantum's leader is female. That would be good IMO
I agree SPECTRE's time has come and gone, and I prefer the idea of variant bad guys. As OHMSS followed by DF proved, a recurring adversary can be a bad thing as well as good one, even with good actors! Thank God Blofeld was dropped down that Beckton Chimney!
I am mildly curious about the idea of Quantum reappearing in the future, but the story would have to be damned good to justify them reappearing. The one thing QoS did seem to establish in the Opera that was fresh, is they seem to work by committee, with no defined central leader. - Something that would make it far more difficult to smash them as an organisation. A snake that grows multiple heads if you chop one off!
Of course, all this assumes the writers will choose to go down that road in the future at all.
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Some good ideas on this thread. I too miss Bond having the regular arch-enemy of SPECTRE to do battle with. I can't see them returning anytime soon with all the legal wranglings over it, so I suppose we'll have to make do with Quantum. I preferred the SPECTRE of the earlier films where Blofeld is never seen & various operatives were assigned master schemes. It allowed for variety of villain but also a certain continuity.
I've said before I'd like to see more of the mechanics of Quantum. Where do they operate from? Who's the leader? Who comprises their members? Perhaps leaders can be 'resigned' from their post when they don't perform adequately, giving us a modern spin on the electric chair scene in THUNDERBALL. Perhaps the Bilderberg Group could be taken as Quantum's model. The possibilites for this organisation are endless.
Some good ideas on this thread. I too miss Bond having the regular arch-enemy of SPECTRE to do battle with. I can't see them returning anytime soon with all the legal wranglings over it, so I suppose we'll have to make do with Quantum. I preferred the SPECTRE of the earlier films where Blofeld is never seen & various operatives were assigned master schemes. It allowed for variety of villain but also a certain continuity.
I've said before I'd like to see more of the mechanics of Quantum. Where do they operate from? Who's the leader? Who comprises their members? Perhaps leaders can be 'resigned' from their post when they don't perform adequately, giving us a modern spin on the electric chair scene in THUNDERBALL. Perhaps the Bilderberg Group could be taken as Quantum's model. The possibilites for this organisation are endless.
I agree with both your paragraphs.
I do think, though, that “Quantum” is a very weak name for a criminal organisation. I find it hard to believe a criminal organisation would choose such name for themselves.
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Quantum is a good replacement, and although it plays no role in SF, I hope it returns in a future flick.
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Im pretty sure they can do just fine without Blofeld
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Besides, “SPECTRE” is a more menacing name than Quantum, which sounds like an airline company.
Quantum will become SPECTRE after a coup. With a firey young
upstart Blofeld taking over. :007)
Spectre worked better in the old days when it was all about the Bond cool persona, exotic locations and hardware, now the mystery of what the villain is up to and who they are is a big thing, Spectre seems generally predictable unless they revamped it totally.
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That might be a good next step for Eon: reintroduce/reboot Blofeld, who then takes over Quantum and makes it into a proper threat, that needs the likes of Bond to deal with it.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
I agree SPECTRE's time has come and gone, and I prefer the idea of variant bad guys. As OHMSS followed by DF proved, a recurring adversary can be a bad thing as well as good one, even with good actors! Thank God Blofeld was dropped down that Beckton Chimney!
I am mildly curious about the idea of Quantum reappearing in the future, but the story would have to be damned good to justify them reappearing. The one thing QoS did seem to establish in the Opera that was fresh, is they seem to work by committee, with no defined central leader. - Something that would make it far more difficult to smash them as an organisation. A snake that grows multiple heads if you chop one off!
Of course, all this assumes the writers will choose to go down that road in the future at all.
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I've said before I'd like to see more of the mechanics of Quantum. Where do they operate from? Who's the leader? Who comprises their members? Perhaps leaders can be 'resigned' from their post when they don't perform adequately, giving us a modern spin on the electric chair scene in THUNDERBALL. Perhaps the Bilderberg Group could be taken as Quantum's model. The possibilites for this organisation are endless.
I agree with both your paragraphs.
I do think, though, that “Quantum” is a very weak name for a criminal organisation. I find it hard to believe a criminal organisation would choose such name for themselves.