How does British govenemnt work?

Ammo08

I'm not being cheeky as ya'll would say. We are a federal system that is more or less built from the county up.
I cannot seem to understand your governmental system. Are councils the same as our county commissions? is Wales autonomous, semi-autonomous or what? Do your countys elect representatives to the House of Commons and Lords or are they selected some other way?

I've got other questions but we can wait on them.

FelixLeiter ♀

In the absence of any other answer thus far, I'll fill you in the best I can.

I'm fairly sure we vote for county councillors, though I'm not entirely sure how much they do with non-elected members of the council. Councils have some power at a local level.
Each county's citizens also vote for Members of Parliament for the House of Commons. The House of Lords are unelected currently. MP's decide on national matters.
The House of Commons has representatives from England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. There are some laws that preside over all 4 countries, although some only over England and Wales. Wales has its own parliament with a certain amount of power. Scotland and N. Ireland do too, although Scotland in particular has more control when it comes to passing legislation.

Sorry I couldn't elaborate on more details, everything is a bit vague.

You really need someone who understands both systems in order to be able to explain the difference better to you.

Ammo08

Every little bit helps. When I'm reading UK newspapers I sometimes get confused because I'm not sure where a particualr government offical fits into the grand design.

Our counties are generally administered by commissions etc, there are varous names. We do a direct election of our senators and respresentatives, however, the varouis political parties at the county level have an awful lot of influence on state and federal poltics because they pick delegates to the state that hehlp to decide policies and agenda.

minigeff

It's easy this one.

You have a bunch of bent and greedy bastards, who mostly have the mentality of blofeld. They bribe their way into local office by lying through their back teeth. Sadly though, most of these local counsellors aren't Eton educated, so this is where their gravy train stops.

Then as time goes on, these tax dodging gits rise up through the ranks and go for county council level, whilst keep the tales of sex parties, gambling addiction and swindling tax payers money firmly tucked up in the closet. Here they become MP (no not Massive Prick, but Member of Parliment), now they can be a back bencher. Theyre the ones who go "yereer" and "aaaawwww" very loudly during Prime Mobster's question time.

Then if you get chosen by the Prime Mobster to be in the cabinet, you can really take it in. Mis-use of public funds and donations, more interesting parties and you can even get in on with another MP, like Edweena Curry, SLURP!! You can have a second home, rent it to a friend and claim the tax back, or if you can't be arsed to live in the smoke, why not get your moat cleaned round your castle and get them scummy tax payers to cough up for it?

Then it gets really serious, this is the big time - Leader of your party. Voted/bought in to this position, you get to shout at the PM to his face!! Simply follow the age old standard modus operandi by blaming the other side for everything, even your mistakes, the PM will follow suit by blaming the previous government and he's simply trying to clean up the mess left behind. But don't worry, behind the scenes you're all mates cos you all went to school together ya see. Scream your face off in rage while your back benchers try to sound important with more "yeeeers" and "aaaaww"s.

Now what happened next was quite odd. During a general election, we have a guy called Peter snow who presents a tv program explaining how the voting is going, live. He explains the very complicated system (so complicated that non if them scummy voters will understand) by means of impressive graphics, pie charts and the famous 'swing-o-meter' and makes it all sound 10 times more complicated. What we got was one lying bastard got more votes than another lying bastard, but not the majority. Therefore, one lying bastard with more votes got to be Prime Mobster, and the other lying bastard got Deputy for being the runner up.

Both these lying sh1ts got where they are with pumping the voters full of BS and then when they got in, all the promises turned to maybes and 'I honestly hope..' etc, then slid into 'I never said that' and eventually all the reasons you voted for these lying bastards have drifted off into the ether.

So, no new runway for the airport EVER (but there might be, especially come 2015 after another general election of bastards) and no rise in students tuition fees EVER (except that's the first thing that deputy lying bastard did when he got in power). On the whole of it, that's small time though, the guy before lied to the world about some country and then set about starting a war on the bent info, AND cos the UK is on the UN security council as a permanent member, he's instantly immune to prosecution as a war criminal!!! Bazinga!!

I dunno if it's the same for you guys state side, but whoever you vote in over here will screw the system for personal gain, **** the country up as best they can and then retire with a golden knob shake and a pot of cash. Or, if you've got enough coin and friends, you can get into the house of lords and really start raking it in, like that far bastard jabba the Prescott did.

Christ I hate politics.

Lexi

Ammo08 wrote:

I'm not being cheeky as ya'll would say. We are a federal system that is more or less built from the county up.
I cannot seem to understand your governmental system. Are councils the same as our county commissions? is Wales autonomous, semi-autonomous or what? Do your countys elect representatives to the House of Commons and Lords or are they selected some other way?

I've got other questions but we can wait on them.

) ) I thought for a minute that was a trick question... for which I was going to reply:

"It doesn't!"

But then I realised you were being serious....

Thunderpussy

I think you summed it up Nicely, minigeff. -{

Ammo08

Minigeff, that's a pretty good definition of what most Americans think of our system. We worry about changing things for fear that the real crooks will get a chance to institutionalize their ways, right now they have to depend on bribery, threats and the media.

FelixLeiter ♀

minigeff wrote:

It's easy this one.

You have a bunch of bent and greedy bastards, who mostly have the mentality of blofeld.

I found myself reading most of the post,but this in particular, in the voice of Jack Reagan. )

minigeff wrote:

Christ I hate politics.

We'd never have guessed

Well summed up minigeff.

In my earlier years I wanted to go into politics, based on the idea of 'if you can't beat em, join em', but soon realised that my lack of a private education, money, or friends in high places was going to drag me down. I also continue to struggle to watch the news or BBC Parliament without shouting "LIAR! PRICK! B@ST@RDS!"

minigeff

Jack Reagan )

Quite like that.

FelixLeiter ♀

Just need "scum" "filth" and "ya nicked" in there. )

First 2 should be a piece of cake!

Thunderbird 2

Not forgetting the expenses scandal, the "bigot" speech row (part one - audio) the other day we had the bigot speech row (part two, scripted), the malfunctioning army equip scandal in Afghanistan two, poss three years ago? The cover up over the Hillsborough disaster broke the other day. - Its one instance of corruption and incompetence after another. Really stupid thing is they actually believe we the UK public forget these things!