The remaining fleming titles

JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
So, every fleming title for a bond novel has been used for a bond film except for 4: The Property Of A Lady, Risico, The Hildebrand Rarity, and 007 In New York.

What are your thoughts on these titles? Would you like them to be used? Do you expect them to be used? Here's my thoughts on each:

The Property Of A Lady - I know this has already sort of been included in some OP dialogue. And I know this was apparently the working title for the 3rd Dalton film that never happened. But anyway, I think it would make a decent title for a bond film. Maybe they could use it for Craig's 4th bond film, in which the head of Quantum is a female (that is if they decide to carry on with the quantum storyline). I think the title is very bond-esque, and would fit in well. I think it will eventually be used.

Risico - Probably less likely to be used, but I still think it will happen one day. Wasn't this the working title for QOS? Anyway, Risico (which is Italian for "Risk") is quite an odd title... but it's also different, and if they can use QOS, then I think they can use this too....

The Hildebrand Rarity - An unusual title, which is probably an acquired taste. I myself quite like it. It sounds kind of intriguing, and I hope (and think) they will use it in the future.

007 In New York - The only title of the 4 that I don't think should be used, and I don't think it will be either. Maybe they could have new york in the title somewhere... that could work... but "007 In New York" itself is obviously not title-worthy.

What's your thoughts?
1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby

Comments

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    I think "Property of a Lady" is the best remaining Fleming title. I like "Risico" too. I have said before that "The Hildebrandt Rarity" sounds lika a Sherlock Holmes mystery and not a Bond movie. 007 in New York is clearly unusable. I think there are chapter titles that can be used, the best is "A Whisper of Hate". The title is of cource a part of a CR chapter title and would be one of the best Bond movie titles ever.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    '007 in New York' sounds more like a working title instead of a confirmed one. Just seems lazy to me.

    'Risico' could work, sounds a bit odd though and doesn't make much sense, but there again, does 'skyfall'?

    'The Hildebrand Rarity' sounds like an Ealing comedy or one of them crap american vampire series.

    And that just leaves

    'The Property of a Lady' sounds like the only true contender for a future bond film title. But saying that, it was obviously used in OP.

    To be honest, with the reboot, the 50th anniversary stuff and a whole new direction etc etc, I think, and dare I say this, that its probably time now to leave the Fleming influence behind and simply continue the good film making. Let face it, over the years the 'Fleming content' of the films has slowly decreased.
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  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    I could see RISICO & PROPERTY OF A LADY being used. I've read others say the latter title could allude to Bond being 'owned' by M or the Queen. RISICO could just be an enigmatic title of little meaning. It rolls off the tongue nicely. Perhaps it could be the name of a yacht or a central character. Or perhaps a company name; RisiCo?

    Whatever title's used, it'll have its complainants. If 'Die' finds its way in, it's accused of being unoriginal. If otherwise, it's called nonsensical. I never envy the Bond people this task.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    PROPERTY OF A LADY then RISICO, but 007 in New York, Can't see that ever being used
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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    Risico is perfectly acceptable, and as has been pointed out, could be used in any number of ways as a character name, an operation, an organisation etc etc.

    Property of a Lady and The Hildebrand Rarity could also work, but I think they would be more difficult to justify.
  • JuliusNoJuliusNo Posts: 16MI6 Agent
    They sound like titles of Saint episodes, especially 007 in New York, most of the old Saint movies were called The Saint in (Insert location).
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    I've always liked a chapter title from DAF--"Death Is So Permanent."
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  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    I've always liked a chapter title from DAF--"Death Is So Permanent."

    I didn't know about that one - I quite like it, and it actually reminds me of one of my own album titles (I'm a songwriter) "Permanent Extinction" - kind of, anyway.... I know Ian Fleming's came first, but I didn't know about it :v

    Colonel Sun may have made a good film title (although not Fleming I know). But I guess the title's been used for Grave's villain in DAD, Colonel Tan-Sun Moon or whatever it is
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,421Quartermasters
    I don't think that any GREAT titles remain in the Fleming canon of short stories. The Property of a Lady is the best of the group, but I'm not sure I'd like it if they used it. QoS was probably the last title that I would personally have chosen.
  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    I didn't think QUANTUM OF SOLACE was a wise title intitially but it grew on me for its originality within the Bond title canon.

    Perhaps Bond could battle some dastardly cyberspace group next - RISI.COM?
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