Bond's Cruel Streak: The Cinematic Evidence

chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
edited October 2012 in The James Bond Films
There are a few moments we all know, but any not generally discussed?

I'd never thought about it before but in TLD when Bond says he must have scared the living daylights out of that girl, he has a fiendish smirk on his face as if the idea amused him no end. That's pretty messed up, wouldn't you say? :o :))

Others?
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Or,
    You're hurting me.
    I thought that was the idea for tonight.
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  • Le SamouraiLe Samourai Honolulu, HIPosts: 573MI6 Agent
    I'll bite... I never really had considered Bond's cruel smirk in TLD, either. It's a moment that stands out. While there are plenty of examples of 007 being cold and vicious—the killing of Dent in DN is probably the most famous—off the top of my head I can't think of a scene that mirrors the one you mention from TLD in which he's cruel but gleeful.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    off the top of my head I can't think of a scene that mirrors the one you mention from TLD in which he's cruel but gleeful.
    "She's just dead" (TB) comes close, eh?
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  • Agent007jamestAgent007jamest usaPosts: 163MI6 Agent
    DC in CR after he offs the guy in the museum in miami gives him a nice couple slaps on the cheek. Bond is a killer he has to have a cruel streak that is his edge. When he sees a woman its should I have sex with her or kill her. Why not both. :v -{ (yes I stole that line from PB minus the Fbomb :)) )When he offs some one he straightens the cuffs or tie, makes sure the suit is not wrinkled than on with life :007)
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    To be honest, I don't think Dalton could deliver a humorous line to save his life. He's trying to be flippant, but it's an awful line with an awful delivery, so it merely appears fiendish. It reminds me of Calvin Dyson's humorous youtube review of TLD, he's just too intense. 'Tell me those aren't the eyes of a psychopath!' Dyson exclaims towards the end.
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  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    Perhaps Dalton's smirk is more to do with the way the writers have managed to incorporate the unweildy title into the film's narrative. :))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    edited October 2012
    'Tell me those aren't the eyes of a psychopath!' Dyson exclaims towards the end.
    Isn't Bond... a bit?
    I spoke to Calvin on Facebook, he's quite a nice fellow. They yanked his YOLT review from Youtube because he included Charles Gray in a scene from Rocky Horror... copywrite infringement and all that. X-(
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  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    I'd never thought about it before but in TLD when Bond says he must have scared the living daylights out of that girl, he has a fiendish smirk on his face as if the idea amused him no end. That's pretty messed up, wouldn't you say? :o :))

    I've never thought of it that way, actually, but now that you mention it, you're quite right. The way he delivered the line seems to show that he was somewhat amused at the thought of scaring the living daylights out of someone.
    he's just too intense.

    I don't think there's such a thing as too intense because that's the way Bond is meant to be ... short of going on a psychotic rampage, of course. He is a hired gun. The British government pays him to kill people. His job requires him to be "as cool about death as a surgeon. If it happened, it happened".
    It reminds me of Calvin Dyson's humorous youtube review of TLD

    I am quite a fan of Mr Dyson's Bond film reviews on Youtube :) I wonder if he is on these forums ...
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    BIG TAM wrote:
    Perhaps Dalton's smirk is more to do with the way the writers have managed to incorporate the unweildy title into the film's narrative. :))
    Funny take, but I got more out of Dalton's line there than you did. Then again, I AM branded a Dalton Fanboy. A title I approve of BTW! :))
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I am quite a fan of Mr Dyson's Bond film reviews on Youtube :) I wonder if he is on these forums ...
    He seems a busy lad, all film-school-y and such. I imagine he's not hereabouts, though I mentioned to him that this site was how I found his reviews.
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  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Hang on, this is Bond remember. He is in a middle of an assignment, he has to kill a sniper. He is all serious and he finds out nthat instead of a deadly sniper he is suppose to be shooting its a woman!! A woman getting into secret service affairs, someone ho was doing it for a joke or something, someone who didn't know how to use a gun. He shoots her gun and hopes that he scared the living daylights out of a young, silly woman. There's a difference between shooting the woman then shooting the gun and scaring her
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    I think Bond should be played as more callous than most when it comes to death and violence. If Bond is played as just a nice guy - a boy scout with a gun - they are doing it wrong! Not a fully flegded psycopath, he does care about his friends and goes to great lenghts to save civilians, but deffinately callous.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Basically, imagine fellow Welshman Richard Burton saying that line, with a bit of wryness, and it would nail it. It would have all the darkness, but none of the quirm inducing quality. With Dalton, when he tries to do humour, it makes me feel like the housekeepers when Peter Finch's doomed, lugubrious Farmer Boldwood tries to make merry, telling them to enjoy themselves, on the day of his long-awaited (by him) wedding to Bathsheba.
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  • 7700777007 Posts: 502MI6 Agent
    Dalton shows his cruel streak by murdering balloons.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    77007 wrote:
    Dalton shows his cruel streak by murdering balloons.
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! :))
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    And Moore shows his by raising his left eyebrow instead of his right.
    77007 wrote:
    Dalton shows his cruel streak by murdering balloons.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    And Moore shows his by raising his left eyebrow instead of his right.
    77007 wrote:
    Dalton shows his cruel streak by murdering balloons.
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! :))

    MAN, THIS PLACE IS MAKING ME PEE MY KILT!
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    And Craig shows his Cruel streak by Pulling that Grimace face
    every time he has to throw a Punch. :))
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    "Grimace face"? I thought that was a smile!!! :))
    And Craig shows his Cruel streak by Pulling that Grimace face
    every time he has to throw a Punch. :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    I know good ol' Sir Rog didn't like the idea, but the way he dispatched Locque in FYEO was quite a dark method, no clever witty one liner, just a swift size niner!

    Hey they rhymed, think I've found yet another vocation in life :)
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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    DC's smile after the bomber in Miami explodes...precious! I think Bond's cruel streak is evident in practically every movie by his quips after killing someone. I was just reading today that a symptom of sociopathic behavior is the enjoyment in being cruel and inflicting emotional and physical pain to others (close acquaintences, family, etc.), especially at a young age; one example is a child who hurts animals for fun. Well, Bond kills people who deserve it, but to enjoy doing it? ...a fine line I think.
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
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