skyfall lodge boots

jon_1uk

can someone please confirm the correct colour of brown on the lodge boot?
cant seem to find a decent picture

UNCLE27

Here you go...

http://www.crockettandjones.com/Product/Islay-Darkbrown

jon_1uk

UNCLE27 wrote:

Here you go...

http://www.crockettandjones.com/Product/Islay-Darkbrown

thanks uncle

jon_1uk

mmm the image here shows them lighter ?

TheExit148

jon_1uk wrote:

mmm the image here shows them lighter ?

The definitely look like the "Bronze Calf" boot.

Lagoona

They look lighter 'cause of the general lightning. I have the dark brown one and can make the boots look brighter with the natural light.
In this picture you can see the Dainite Rubber Soles, the "Bronze Calf" has Ridgeway Rubber Soles. Also you can see the surface grain of the boot. The Bronze Calf hasn't this grain.



Last but not least C&J confirmed the Islay in Dark Brown Scotch Grain:
http://www.crockettandjones.com/News/Index/James-Bond-Skyfall-Crockett-and-Jones

Hope this helps

TheExit148

Lagoona wrote:

They look lighter 'cause of the general lightning. I have the dark brown one and can make the boots look brighter with the natural light.
In this picture you can see the Dainite Rubber Soles, the "Bronze Calf" has Ridgeway Rubber Soles. Also you can see the surface grain of the boot. The Bronze Calf hasn't this grain.



Last but not least C&J confirmed the Islay in Dark Brown Scotch Grain:
http://www.crockettandjones.com/News/Index/James-Bond-Skyfall-Crockett-and-Jones

Hope this helps

Good stuff! Thanks for clarifying. The lighting is a fans enemy went trying to find the SA colour.

richmenstoys

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/crockett-jones-islay

not yet 100% confirmed?

UNCLE27

richmenstoys wrote:

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/crockett-jones-islay

not yet 100% confirmed?

That hasn't been updated!
They HAVE been confirmed now

http://www.crockettandjones.com/News/Index/James-Bond-Skyfall-Crockett-and-Jones

TheExit148

Anyone purchase these yet who also have the Church Ryders? Did you order your same size?

006

TheExit148 wrote:

Anyone purchase these yet who also have the Church Ryders? Did you order your same size?

I haven't ordered the Islay's (yet), however I was at C&J in Jermyn Street and I tried it out - I take a 6G in my Church's Ryder III, but I went for a 6.5E fit - There are always subtle differences in fit, nothing too dramatic.

I was advised to got for a 6.5 as the lacing of the boot meant it would be easier and more comfortable than going a size down.

One things for sure both boots are very comfortable and not as heavy as they appear

DrBond

I highly recommend the wingtip boots from JCP. If you order online make sure you get a size smaller than usual; they run big.

BRIXMIS

Not had an opportunity to try the Islays on yet. I also would be interested in comparisons to Ryders. My feet are fairly wide, so maybe the C&J's at an E fitting may be too narrow. The Ryders I have are a UK 8.5 in a G fit. Saying that, I wore the Ryders for a weekend in Paris and did a LOT of walking and they bloody agony by the end of the 2nd day! So maybe I should have a 9 !

dr go

BRIXMIS wrote:

Not had an opportunity to try the Islays on yet. I also would be interested in comparisons to Ryders. My feet are fairly wide, so maybe the C&J's at an E fitting may be too narrow. The Ryders I have are a UK 8.5 in a G fit. Saying that, I wore the Ryders for a weekend in Paris and did a LOT of walking and they bloody agony by the end of the 2nd day! So maybe I should have a 9 !

Hi
Hope this helps. I've got Ryder III's in a 8.5 wide fitting (G) and I find them exceptionally comfortable. Just bought a pair of 8.5 C&J Islay. It's definitely a bigger last and they're definitely not too narrow. In fact, they may be a tiny bit too big and I may need to go down to a size 8. It sounds like 8.5 will probably suit you though. Haven't worn mine outside yet but they're fantastic shoes and probably more suitable for wintry weather than the Ryders.

BRIXMIS

dr go, thats good information. After a long day the Ryders pinch, so if the Islays come up a little bigger, could be spot on. Was worried about the E fitting, but sounds like the last is bigger that the Church's. Thanks again.

mnowak

How waterproof are the Islays? Can you wear them in bad weather without fear of damage?

TheExit148

Has anyone bought the "Harry" boots from Rogersons? Debating getting those price wise and because of the slightly wider last.

The Domino Effect

mnowak wrote:

How waterproof are the Islays? Can you wear them in bad weather without fear of damage?

I've worn them in some torrential rain over the past several weeks - including the remnants of Hurricane Sandy - and had no problem at all. They look as good as new - better in fact as they're developing a nice softer shade. Still undecided about risking them in serious snow as I'd be devastated if I got those wicked white salt stains, but so far they've been superb even in torrential rain.

BRIXMIS

TheExit148 wrote:

Has anyone bought the "Harry" boots from Rogersons? Debating getting those price wise and because of the slightly wider last.

I sent Rogersons an e-mail today and followed up with a call. On the strength of that, I have ordered a pair. Seemingly the Islays , although an E fitting , is fairly roomy. However, drawn to the Harry as it is on an F fitting last from C&J. Robertson was very helpful and said that the last used on their Harry model is bigger in all measurements, and has a more rounded toe than the Islay. That appealed as not too keen on a more pointed toe on something I would only wear casually ( jeans, cords, chinos etc). That and its getting on for £100 cheaper than the Islay, sealed the deal. They have no online ordering, so one of their shops called me back and took credit card details and will post out tomorrow. Time will tell how they fit, but on thier advice ordered size 8.5 UK. I float between this and a 9 depending on fit. Will report back, but can say that Robertsons were very helpful and knowledgeable .

dr go

BRIXMIS wrote:

TheExit148 wrote:

Has anyone bought the "Harry" boots from Rogersons? Debating getting those price wise and because of the slightly wider last.

I sent Rogersons an e-mail today and followed up with a call. On the strength of that, I have ordered a pair. Seemingly the Islays , although an E fitting , is fairly roomy. However, drawn to the Harry as it is on an F fitting last from C&J. Robertson was very helpful and said that the last used on their Harry model is bigger in all measurements, and has a more rounded toe than the Islay. That appealed as not too keen on a more pointed toe on something I would only wear casually ( jeans, cords, chinos etc). That and its getting on for £100 cheaper than the Islay, sealed the deal. They have no online ordering, so one of their shops called me back and took credit card details and will post out tomorrow. Time will tell how they fit, but on thier advice ordered size 8.5 UK. I float between this and a 9 depending on fit. Will report back, but can say that Robertsons were very helpful and knowledgeable .

You're very welcome BRIXMIS. Let us know how you get on with the Harry shoes.

Also, C&J have told me the shoes are not specifically designed to be waterproof but they are described as relatively water-resistant. They have a storm welt which means it's harder for water to get in and cause sole damage/'rotting'. This means white salt stains are unlikely. I really recommend spraying all leather shoes though. It helps protect them (rather like waxing a car).

Kuragami

dr go wrote:

BRIXMIS wrote:

TheExit148 wrote:

Has anyone bought the "Harry" boots from Rogersons? Debating getting those price wise and because of the slightly wider last.

I sent Rogersons an e-mail today and followed up with a call. On the strength of that, I have ordered a pair. Seemingly the Islays , although an E fitting , is fairly roomy. However, drawn to the Harry as it is on an F fitting last from C&J. Robertson was very helpful and said that the last used on their Harry model is bigger in all measurements, and has a more rounded toe than the Islay. That appealed as not too keen on a more pointed toe on something I would only wear casually ( jeans, cords, chinos etc). That and its getting on for £100 cheaper than the Islay, sealed the deal. They have no online ordering, so one of their shops called me back and took credit card details and will post out tomorrow. Time will tell how they fit, but on thier advice ordered size 8.5 UK. I float between this and a 9 depending on fit. Will report back, but can say that Robertsons were very helpful and knowledgeable .

You're very welcome BRIXMIS. Let us know how you get on with the Harry shoes.

Also, C&J have told me the shoes are not specifically designed to be waterproof but they are described as relatively water-resistant. They have a storm welt which means it's harder for water to get in and cause sole damage/'rotting'. This means white salt stains are unlikely. I really recommend spraying all leather shoes though. It helps protect them (rather like waxing a car).

I have been told by C&J that you can get a fairly decent water resistance by using their she polish as it has a wax in it. It won't be immediate but in time they can become nearly water poof. I was told the same by my own C&J stockist.

BRIXMIS

A follow up on the Harry boots, bought from Rogersons, in Scotland. They arrived today. They are in a Crockett and Jones box, with C&J cloth bags and C&j on sole and inside of the boot. Inside it states they were made by C&J exclusively for Rogersons. Out of the box, they look stunning, same rich dark brown as the screen Islays. The Harrys seem to be Islays, but on a different last, slightly wider. They did say the toe is rounder, but not that you'd notice. As for fit, these are an F fitting ( the Islay is an E), and feel slightly wider than a Church Ryder in a G. A real quality product. I decided to wear them indoors, to see if all was well. But then got bored , put my Barbour Durham on, grabbed my side-by-side 12 bore and went out into the pouring rain!! Walked around 3 miles with the gun and my trusty labrador. All across country, mainly on muddy tracks, through puddles and the killer for soaking your feet, wet grass. With the Dainite soles, they are not really perfectly suited to cross country travel, but acceptable. If you remember not to go into deep puddles ( the tongue is only partiually stitched in, and then only on the arch of the foot side), they remained amazingly water resistant. I can say these boots will deal with anything a city or park in winter can through at you.

They look black as they are soaked! But feet are dry.

TheExit148

Interesting they feel slightly wider then the Ryder's in a G width. Makes me nervous wanting get the Harry's in 10F, same as my Ryders. The actual Islay may be better, but the price is better at Rogersons haha

BRIXMIS

TheExit148 wrote:

Interesting they feel slightly wider then the Ryder's in a G width. Makes me nervous wanting get the Harry's in 10F, same as my Ryders. The actual Islay may be better, but the price is better at Rogersons haha

The extra width is minimal, and I would wear the Harrys in Winter, so I would have thicker socks. I dont know the reason The Harrys are cheaper than the Islays. They cost £340, as opposed to £405 for the cheapest I have seen the Islays for, so not a budget boot by any stretch of the imagination. Uppers are the same as the Islays. C&J are not going to use an inferior leather on something that has their name on. I expected the boots to be branded Rogersons, a la Herrings shoes, who use Loake etc, but branded Herrings. But no, Rogersons are mentioned on the inner, but they are branded C&J all over. The difference is the last, bigger all round than the Islays. Presume this is in response to Rogersons customers wanting a wider fit. They are based in Scotland, and these type of boots are popular on formal shooting, pheasant and partridge drives etc, in cold wet conditions, where thicker socks would be the norm, standing around at the peg, waiting for the birds. Is one last cheaper than another? Wouldn't have thought so, but maybe. Could be marketing, you rarely see C&J shoes marked down in price. If someone who has buying clout, in that they sell a lot of your footwear, specs a boot that is built by C&J, they may have more latitude on pricing? As I say, these are not budget boots, they are only £35 shy of a similar pair of Trickers. The cheaper price is a bonus, but for me, I have wider feet, so the extra width is the main thing. If you run with narrow feet, the Islays may be the one for you. But if you fit fine in a Church Ruders G fit, I think you would be ok.

Gomers

Apologies for resurrecting this thread 8-)

After much deliberation, I finally splashed some cash on the wonderful 'Harry' boot from C&J. As has been previously mentioned, the Harry is the Islay on the wider 228 last. Superb boots, a slightly smarter alternative to my excellent Trickers Stow.

As to sizing, these are 9.5F fitting which is definitely more roomy than the same in Church Ryder 3, allowing thick socks to be worn (to give some perspective). Really pleased with them although my Stows are staying as they give me a more 'rough and ready' option.

Rogersons, where they were purchased were really helpful and I managed to get 10% off in the sale plus a bit of a discount on next day delivery. For the price, about £50 - £60 less than the pukka Islay for the exact same boot, albeit slightly wider, they are a bit of a no-brainier really. I had an email reply from C&J today confirming they are identical in construction to the Islay except the last.

Anyway, if anybody is thinking of taking the plunge, I can recommend without hesitation.

BRIXMIS

Gomers wrote:

Apologies for resurrecting this thread 8-)

After much deliberation, I finally splashed some cash on the wonderful 'Harry' boot from C&J. As has been previously mentioned, the Harry is the Islay on the wider 228 last. Superb boots, a slightly smarter alternative to my excellent Trickers Stow.

As to sizing, these are 9.5F fitting which is definitely more roomy than the same in Church Ryder 3, allowing thick socks to be worn (to give some perspective). Really pleased with them although my Stows are staying as they give me a more 'rough and ready' option.

Rogersons, where they were purchased were really helpful and I managed to get 10% off in the sale plus a bit of a discount on next day delivery. For the price, about £50 - £60 less than the pukka Islay for the exact same boot, albeit slightly wider, they are a bit of a no-brainier really. I had an email reply from C&J today confirming they are identical in construction to the Islay except the last.

Anyway, if anybody is thinking of taking the plunge, I can recommend without hesitation.

Great boots, mine are over a year old now, still in great nick, little bit of mink oil now and again is all they get. Sounds like you got a good deal.

Theundeadkennedy

Another great alternative to the Islay is this boot C&J makes for the shooting lifestyle brand Purdey. They have the same construction as the Islay only built on the 325 last. Slightly sleeker, narrower toe box on this last than on the Islay's 365 last. I don't find them as comfy as my Skyes, but this is probably because the Skye's 335 last is the best fitting last I've found in a boot. I think this is a good alternative for those who have narrower feet and would find the Islay too roomy.


http://www.purdey.com/clothing-accessories/grain-leather-brogue-boots-boot061.aspx

Gomers

BRIXMIS wrote:

Gomers wrote:

Apologies for resurrecting this thread 8-)

After much deliberation, I finally splashed some cash on the wonderful 'Harry' boot from C&J. As has been previously mentioned, the Harry is the Islay on the wider 228 last. Superb boots, a slightly smarter alternative to my excellent Trickers Stow.

As to sizing, these are 9.5F fitting which is definitely more roomy than the same in Church Ryder 3, allowing thick socks to be worn (to give some perspective). Really pleased with them although my Stows are staying as they give me a more 'rough and ready' option.

Rogersons, where they were purchased were really helpful and I managed to get 10% off in the sale plus a bit of a discount on next day delivery. For the price, about £50 - £60 less than the pukka Islay for the exact same boot, albeit slightly wider, they are a bit of a no-brainier really. I had an email reply from C&J today confirming they are identical in construction to the Islay except the last.

Anyway, if anybody is thinking of taking the plunge, I can recommend without hesitation.

Great boots, mine are over a year old now, still in great nick, little bit of mink oil now and again is all they get. Sounds like you got a good deal.

Thanks Mark, it was thanks to your year old thread that kept these boots in my mind, tentatively took the plunge and really pleased. Just tried them again and think I might have to move my Trickers on, can't really justify both

tardis1711

Can you only get the Harry's from Rogersons? I emailed them but had no reply.
I bought the islays last year but sold them on as they weren't wide enough for my feet
I am a size 9.. So if I can't get the Harry's what size should I buy in the islay for a wider fitting?
Size 10? Hope someone can give me some guidance.

Thanks

Gomers

tardis1711 wrote:

Can you only get the Harry's from Rogersons? I emailed them but had no reply.
I bought the islays last year but sold them on as they weren't wide enough for my feet
I am a size 9.. So if I can't get the Harry's what size should I buy in the islay for a wider fitting?
Size 10? Hope someone can give me some guidance.

Thanks

Try Rogersons again, Lorna was extremely helpful and patient with me, I turned down the first pair she got for me, then withdrew interest in a second pair, third time lucky I guess

Yes, the Harry is exclusive to Rogersons as stamped on the inner. I'd say a 9 would be perfect in the Harry. All my good boots are 9.5. My Church Ryder 3 in standard F can get a bit snug, the same size and fit in the C&J Harry is appreciably roomier and I can wear them with thick walking socks.

Give them another go or ring one of the shops, the Peebles branch took payment for mine.

Nick