SPOILER: Skyfall mistakes
staff95
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I always find it somehow amusing to look for little mistakes that the director etc. have made throughout the film. Especially now, that I've seen Skyfall for the third time ( this once it was as good as the previous two viewings B-) ) I tried to pay more attention to the little snafus.
1) In the first scene in M's office, when she is looking out of the window, we get to see that her earrings are different from each other: one is big, black and long and the other one is tiny and looks crystal-ish :P
2) When Silva decides to pop into the meeting with Mallory, the minister etc. one of the policemen appears to be killed twice in the same scene!
3) When Bond is fighting the big Chinese guy in Macau and gets thrown around the ground for a fair while, his tux looks as neat and clean as if he'd just got it back from the dry cleaner's, once he gets out.
4) In Scotland Kincade is out with two black dogs, which then mysteriously disappear.
5) When Silva arrives in Skyfall, one moment it looks as if it's noon and the next second the sky is pitch black.
6) Eve seems to get from London to China within only a couple of hours, whereas the journey actually takes about 12 hours. (but that could just be the time difference...)
Any more ideas? God, I can't wait for the DVD so badly that I'm killing time through tooth-picking mistakes in the movie
1) In the first scene in M's office, when she is looking out of the window, we get to see that her earrings are different from each other: one is big, black and long and the other one is tiny and looks crystal-ish :P
2) When Silva decides to pop into the meeting with Mallory, the minister etc. one of the policemen appears to be killed twice in the same scene!
3) When Bond is fighting the big Chinese guy in Macau and gets thrown around the ground for a fair while, his tux looks as neat and clean as if he'd just got it back from the dry cleaner's, once he gets out.
4) In Scotland Kincade is out with two black dogs, which then mysteriously disappear.
5) When Silva arrives in Skyfall, one moment it looks as if it's noon and the next second the sky is pitch black.
6) Eve seems to get from London to China within only a couple of hours, whereas the journey actually takes about 12 hours. (but that could just be the time difference...)
Any more ideas? God, I can't wait for the DVD so badly that I'm killing time through tooth-picking mistakes in the movie
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2) missed that tbh
3) it's one of them special self cleaning jobs from Q branch, bit like Marty mcfly's jacket in BTTF2
4) ghost dogs?
5) it gets dark quick in the UK. Seriously, within half an hour it's dark this time of year.
6) Bond might not have been in Shanghai for just a day. He's probably on his 3rd day there or so, giving eve plenty of time to play catch up.
Here's one of my own;
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Wake up old bean, the world's passing you by!
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Like the question of how Joker got his scars, we'll never get clarification. And like Harvey Dent, he blames the person who he considered his ally, but he feels betrayed him.
He got shot through the windscreen of the digger. Apparently a straight shot would have torn him apart as the bullet contained uranium or something.
Yes, you can see Bond clearly react to one of Patrice's last shots through the windshield when Bond is driving the construction vehicle. Bond is visibly bloodied when he lands in the train.
Eve hits him a second time, apparently much worse because it threw him, passed out, off of the bridge.
The first shot from Patrice was apparently a poor shot because the bullet was splintered in his skin.
Here's a mistake for ya. Who turns on a flashlight in the deadliest game of hide-and-seek ever?
Thanks...I suspected that was what happened based on his violent reaction to the shots in the screen. It just didn't make any sense because he seemed unaffected through the rest of the fight.
I also thought
"Welcome back bond, anything the docs need to know of?"
"Erm, slight stiffness in me knee, hands a bit shaky, I'm knackered, could do with a shave....(should I mention the bullet in my shoulder....) ..... apart from that, **** on mate."
I guess I'd have been more like "YEAH GET THIS METAL OUT MY ARM!!!" but compared to bond I'm a complete wuss.
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This would be either on the Circle or District line.
The real rolling stock on either line is C69/C77 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_C69_and_C77_Stock
The carriage he boards is probably a 1995 stock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_1995_Stock
Also, Temple station is a sub-surface station, not a deep-level one, so there would be no escalators.
It's also worth noting that the partitions between escalators at tube stations tend to have metal signs on them saying things like "walk on the right" or "emergency stop", which would make the sliding very difficult.
Silva is seen going out of Embankment, then goes into a police car to reach Westminster if I recall correctly.
I'll have to re-watch it to make sure but I'm confident about it. Then the empty train crashing through the basement could also be a Bakerloo or Northern train if this happens at Embankment..
And of course you are right about the signs, those would have hurt.
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That also fits considering Tanner's line "I didn't know Bond passed the tests?"
Is countered by M's "He didn't."
If anyone would know whats going on besides M it would be Tanner since he's the Chief of Staff? (Assuming post reboot I have not misread the fact that Rory K is playing the same character Michael Kitchen did).
I have to agree on the whole Torch = "We are HERE!!" business. As a Gamekeeper Kincade really should have known better. - Its prob a safe bet the only deer near Skyfall is that bloody statues!
Another odd one was it was daft for Bond to try to shortcut across the Loch. He should have guessed the ice might give way, and even if it didn't he was a skating duck for pot shots. (As Silva proved). Notr to mention hypothermia from the freezing water.
Staff may well be right about a policeman getting shot twice in the inquiry shootout scene? I think I can confirm that from spotting it on Saturday. - It definitely looks like the same man gets shot twice, as though the same sequence has been used more than once.
Just what I thought when I saw it - I'm no doctor or paramedic, but the way he landed, from such a height in to water, would surely have snapped his neck - the wound to his shoulder would be the least of his worries!
when you shoot a car, it doesn't explode. when you shoot a can of petrol, it doesn't explode. when you shoot a block of plastic expolsive, it won't explode.
so what was in the db5 that made it go pop?
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The ice was a shortcut.
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Another one relates to Bond's double rifle at Skyfall. He discards it after running out of ammo, but it literally disappears. We see it fall and we see it stay put, initially. He walks back over the same ground at least twice and there's no sign of the dropped rifle. I found this surprising considering just how little the other guns, bodies, and everything else stayed put.
Likewise, what happens to Bond's "signature" PPK/S? The henchman drops it after being dragged off by the komodo dragon, you see where it lands, and then you don't see anything. Is it implied Bond picked it back up (he would have much more of a motive for doing so than with his double rifle), since Q isn't ticked off at him for losing it when he returns? Silva's henchmen would have taken it from him on the yacht, but Bond does indeed call in backup and would have a chance to recover it off-screen. This one's more of a "left-hanging" moment than an actual mistake.
However, there is one pretty severe mistake relating to the PPK/S: in Shanghai, what's he doing with a pair of gloves on when the gun recognizes his palmprint? Did Q make palmprint gloves? If so, then that sorta defeats the purpose of a signature gun, no?
Kincade must also be working on some rather severe handloads. His shotgun blasts are far closer to what you might expect from a 4 gauge smoothbore designed for solid shot but loaded for buck than anything a 12 gauge is capable of. Ironically, if Andrew Bond was fond of hunting in Africa (implied thanks to the double rifle), he very easily could have had a 4 gauge, though it would much more likely have been what's known as a "paradox rifle". That is, only the last four inches or so of the barrel are rifled. Still, loads could have been worked up to produce the same results (especially since Kincade would have sawed the barrels off, thus eliminating the rifling).
However, to answer someone else's question...
Well, for one thing, Silva could have been using tracer rounds. A tracer WILL ignite a gasoline tank. Ask any living Japanese or early Soviet WWII pilot that had to bail out after getting hit by rifle-caliber machine gun fire. The IJN and IJA did not start out World War II with self-sealing tanks and early War US Navy pilots usually knocked them out pretty easily IF they could get on target (the Japanese Zero flew rings around the American F4F, but the F4F was a much tougher aircraft). Nor did the Soviet Air Force. In fact, that's almost certainly how Finnish pilots racked up kill after kill during the Winter War despite flying obsolete Brewster B-239 Buffalo fighters stripped down completely for export. The Buffalo's .50 caliber guns had to be fired in shorter-than-normal bursts (2 seconds) due to a lack of a sustained ammunition supply, resulting in a greater ratio of tracers and instructions to aim at Soviet aircraft fuel tanks. The Finnish Air Force's kill ratio was a whopping 32:1, so something worked.
However, by the same measure, a tracer would be unlikely to ignite a material like brick or damp ground (i.e. basically everything else Silva was shooting). Remember, the car doesn't blow up the second it's hit. With a tracer usually going every four or five rounds, it could have hit the fuel tank.
Alternately, the Aston Martin is loaded with gadgets, among them two machine guns and an ejector seat. The ejector seat worked on compressed air, and hitting a canister of compressed air would result in violent decompression, possibly setting off an already-leaking fuel tank. Hitting the ammunition for the guns, even assuming only a few rounds were left, would probably blow the fuel tank in a similar manner.
Few things though.
Bond isn't wearing gloves when activating the ppk/s grip, non during the fight with Patrice. During the Komodo fight, the bad guy keeps hold of it, it isn't dropped, so we can assume its 'lost in the field'.
As for the DB5, the Gatling gun on the Merlin isn't firing tracer, compressed air goes off with a bang but not an explosive one, and any ammunition for the m/c guns would presumably be housed in the front of the car, no where near the fuel tank.
What about Patrice's gun firing like a semi during the fight, even though its a bolt action?
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No, he's not.... BUT he is wearing them, when Patrice is hanging off the edge of the building, as this is what makes him lose his grip.
Well the bad guy get's eaten by the dragon, so in a sense it is dropped... and Bond doesn't pick it up/retrieve it... which is a bit of a shame, as it's a cool gun
Especially when Q gave him specific instructions not to lose them... (or something!)
Honestly, the lighting in the scene was so low I couldn't tell what was going on with that rifle. There are rifles (the Yugoslavian SKS M59/66, French St. Etienne Mle. 1917, Soviet SVT-38 and SVT-40) that can have their gas valves cut off manually without the aid of a tool (like you'd need on a FAL or Hakim) to fire as straight-pull action firearms. But then, each of those has a recoil spring, and the gun Patrice had didn't. Also, while you can fire extremely quickly with a straight-pull action rifle (I once emptied my Bulgarian Mannlicher M95 in just under 10 seconds [five rounds] to prove the point to a friend of mine that straight-pull action rifles did indeed fire very quickly; the problem was holding up under the rigors of battle), he wasn't cocking the bolt after each shot. Or didn't appear to be.
I think you misunderstand. Compressed air would go off with a nonexplosive bang, but it could also loosen the fuel tank and/or fuel line. The fuel coming into contact with some of the car's steel parts (the actual fuel tank on a DB5 is aluminum) could present a fire hazard, especially if he has armor-piercing ammunition (which he very well could have; it doesn't light up like tracer). The resulting steel-on-steel would then present a situation whereby sparks could hit the leaking fuel tank. Consider that the car was sparking like crazy when it was getting hit and there's that. Alternately, if the fuel line to the engine was loosened and dripping gasoline (which it might have been; the thing was taking quite a bit of punishment), then you can be assured that if ammo was present and cooked off, it would have started a fire and then blown the car to bits. The nature of the explosion would have been different and you'd have seen a sort of a flash before the whole car went, but it would have blown the car apart.
EDIT: We're also assuming the Aston Martin's smoke screen is inoperable, although the buttons on the console would suggest otherwise. If THAT gets hit and blows, the car could go up in flames due to its proximity to the fuel tank. It all depends on what kind of pyrotechnic he's using to create the smoke screen.
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