I don't even think he looks that old in AVTAK. I'd say he looks about 50. And that's not bad considering he was 57.
Look at Connery - in DAF, he looked late 40's when he was infact 41, and in NSNA he looked about late 50's!
Throughout being bond, Moore aged better than Connery IMO. And a lot better too.
For sure! There was no way Connery could have pulled off that AVTAK hot tub scene.
I think Connery looked like hell in Diamonds are Forever, and even You Only Live Twice there is a sluggishness to him. Without Terence Young, he adopts terrible posture.
"The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette..." -- Ian Fleming, Moonraker
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
I think there is lots to like about AVTAK (Walken as Zorin, the theme song, the Golden Gate climax), but the overall result falls short of greatness.
All of that is rather poorly done, except the song of course. Zorin is a great concept but Walken is not allowed to do much rather than laugh nervously, and the Golden Gate finale is both implausible and rather comically done.
This was also my favorite Bond movie at one point...
This was my first Roger Moore Bond. Not a great way to get acquinted with the actor's Bond, is it?
For sure! There was no way Connery could have pulled off that AVTAK hot tub scene.
I actually think he'd have sold it better. But, this is a Moore thread, so I won't press. :P
I think Connery looked like hell in Diamonds are Forever, and even You Only Live Twice there is a sluggishness to him. Without Terence Young, he adopts terrible posture.
There were several factors why he was bored by YOLT, and among them, money. He wanted a pay raise, and the producers gave him the middle finger. He also couldn't stand the publicity and he lost a couple of parts because of the film. He wanted out - not having Terence Young around didn't have anything to do with it.
IMO he looks fine in Octopussy, and it helps that Maud Adams doesn't appear young enough to be his granddaughter. AVTAK, on the other hand, you've got him facing off against the sprier, sexier combo of Christopher Walken and Grace Jones, and add to that Tanya Roberts as the love interest... I think he does appear quite long in the tooth by this point.
Great points. He did look older, but they made a conscious effort to not make fun of his age by teaming him with women half his age, thus Maud Adams, who did play the part as his equal too, and given their similar ages, it played nicely.
What would've been interesting, is to have had OP as Moore's final Bond film.
Some relevant comments regarding Roger Moore's age. In Octopussy it really helped that Maud Adams was cast. She and Roger were/are good friends and they share a really good on screen chemistry. But the age factor was not taken into account as it should have been in A View To A Kill. As I understand, Roger signed up well in advance so it was a missed opportunity. I will always be fond of AVTAK, but how much better might it have been if the script was more tailored to an ageing Bond?
Ironically, if it was not for the return of Sean Connery in Never Say Never Again, then Roger would likely not have returned in Octopussy. So you can (in my case) thank Sean, or blame him for extending Roger's tenure as Bond.
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Some relevant comments regarding Roger Moore's age. In Octopussy it really helped that Maud Adams was cast. She and Roger were/are good friends and they share a really good on screen chemistry. But the age factor was not taken into account as it should have been in A View To A Kill. As I understand, Roger signed up well in advance so it was a missed opportunity. I will always be fond of AVTAK, but how much better might it have been if the script was more tailored to an ageing Bond?
Ironically, if it was not for the return of Sean Connery in Never Say Never Again, then Roger would likely not have returned in Octopussy. So you can (in my case) thank Sean, or blame him for extending Roger's tenure as Bond.
Well, given that Roger was great in OP, I'm glad he came back, even if the film itself wasn't as good as FEYO. Anyway, I agree with the rest of the post.
However, I honestly think Roger Moore returned for AVTAK because Cubby wanted to spite Connery for returning for his seventh film in a rival Bond film. I don't see why else would he want him back, because Cubby did comment early in the 80's that Moore was geting a little too old.
Some relevant comments regarding Roger Moore's age. In Octopussy it really helped that Maud Adams was cast. She and Roger were/are good friends and they share a really good on screen chemistry. But the age factor was not taken into account as it should have been in A View To A Kill. As I understand, Roger signed up well in advance so it was a missed opportunity. I will always be fond of AVTAK, but how much better might it have been if the script was more tailored to an ageing Bond?
Ironically, if it was not for the return of Sean Connery in Never Say Never Again, then Roger would likely not have returned in Octopussy. So you can (in my case) thank Sean, or blame him for extending Roger's tenure as Bond.
Well, given that Roger was great in OP, I'm glad he came back, even if the film itself wasn't as good as FEYO. Anyway, I agree with the rest of the post.
However, I honestly think Roger Moore returned for AVTAK because Cubby wanted to spite Connery for returning for his seventh film in a rival Bond film. I don't see why else would he want him back, because Cubby did comment early in the 80's that Moore was geting a little too old.
I do not know exactly why Cubby Broccoli invited Roger Moore back for A View To A Kill. I am inclined to believe it was a thank you to Roger for his performance and the success of Octopussy over Never Say Never Again, rather than a reason to spite Sean Connery.
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Some relevant comments regarding Roger Moore's age. In Octopussy it really helped that Maud Adams was cast. She and Roger were/are good friends and they share a really good on screen chemistry. But the age factor was not taken into account as it should have been in A View To A Kill. As I understand, Roger signed up well in advance so it was a missed opportunity. I will always be fond of AVTAK, but how much better might it have been if the script was more tailored to an ageing Bond?
Ironically, if it was not for the return of Sean Connery in Never Say Never Again, then Roger would likely not have returned in Octopussy. So you can (in my case) thank Sean, or blame him for extending Roger's tenure as Bond.
Well, given that Roger was great in OP, I'm glad he came back, even if the film itself wasn't as good as FEYO. Anyway, I agree with the rest of the post.
However, I honestly think Roger Moore returned for AVTAK because Cubby wanted to spite Connery for returning for his seventh film in a rival Bond film. I don't see why else would he want him back, because Cubby did comment early in the 80's that Moore was geting a little too old.
I do not know exactly why Cubby Broccoli invited Roger Moore back for A View To A Kill. I am inclined to believe it was a thank you to Roger for his performance and the success of Octopussy over Never Say Never Again, rather than a reason to spite Sean Connery.
I don't have him be so benevolent. Besides, there's no indication of that, whereas there are multiple reports of Cubby's bitterness and dissapointment with Connery.
To mark the release of The Wild Geese on Blu-ray, Roger Moore has spoken to Entertainment Weekly about some of his experiences while making the film, and how his character (Shawn Fynn) was almost portrayed by O J Simpson.
AVTAK was good. I've always liked it. The PTS was always good to me, the Eiffel Tower jump, City Hall burning, the fire engine chase, the mine flooding, Zorins infamous massacre scene and the golden gate bridge fight. So many memorable scenes and powerful moments, so what if Moore looked old?! The only thing that bugs me about him is the weird wide-eyed thing he does for the entire film; very creepy. Other than that a great addition to the series and a fine farewell from Sir Rog!
Although I would consider Pierce Brosnan to be the "perfect" Bond, Roger Moore is still my favorite Bond. He's the guy that i love to see on screen. It pisses me off that some folks write him off as "silly" or "comical". Rewatch FYEO or AVTAK and you will see that Rog takes his job quite seriously.
As for "Fleming Purists" who dislike Rog, I will say that OHMSS plot is the most ridiculous over-the-top story to ever appear. Even Dr. No had a battle with a giant squid and YOLT featured a deadly garden of maneating plants. So I don't understand why you guys are taking Bond so freakin seriously. Roger was smart enough to realize that the role would be best played with a touch of humor.
Another rant of mine concerns A View to a Kill. Absolutely boggles my mind that this film is so unpopular. I consider it the best Bond film of the 80's and one of the high water marks of the series. Javrio let's have a drink sometime
Not that it really matters, but I think Rog actually looks younger in AVTAK than he did in FYEO and OP.
Although I would consider Pierce Brosnan to be the "perfect" Bond, Roger Moore is still my favorite Bond. He's the guy that i love to see on screen. It pisses me off that some folks write him off as "silly" or "comical". Rewatch FYEO or AVTAK and you will see that Rog takes his job quite seriously.
As for "Fleming Purists" who dislike Rog, I will say that OHMSS plot is the most ridiculous over-the-top story to ever appear. Even Dr. No had a battle with a giant squid and YOLT featured a deadly garden of maneating plants. So I don't understand why you guys are taking Bond so freakin seriously. Roger was smart enough to realize that the role would be best played with a touch of humor.
Another rant of mine concerns A View to a Kill. Absolutely boggles my mind that this film is so unpopular. I consider it the best Bond film of the 80's and one of the high water marks of the series. Javrio let's have a drink sometime
Not that it really matters, but I think Rog actually looks younger in AVTAK than he did in FYEO and OP.
AVTAK is really good, and Walkien is awesome but FYEO is my favourite Bond film and my fav film OF ALL FREAKING TIME!! It's got everything I look for in a film. This film is never ever talked about for some insane reason, anyway the 80s is the best Bond decade, far superior to the 60s.
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
A year ago, I was in front of the Grauman Theatre at the Hollywood Walk of fame and watched Connery's hand- and footprints there.
A nice worker from there started chatting with me and soon I told him, that I was a Bond fan. He told me, that they had a lot of events involving all kind of moviestars and Roger Moore was their all-favorite.
Imo, this says a lot about the man. It's not what the press says, it's what the normal people say and how you treat them.
He did not have anything kind to say about Connery though
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
AVTAK is really good, and Walkien is awesome but FYEO is my favourite Bond film and my fav film OF ALL FREAKING TIME!! It's got everything I look for in a film. This film is never ever talked about for some insane reason, anyway the 80s is the best Bond decade, far superior to the 60s.
right on James. I whole heartedly agree that the 80s is the best decade for 007. (see my post in the John Glen thread)
FYEO is a marvelous film. Even the anti-Moore crowd will grudgingly add that one to their top 10 list because it's so legit.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Sir Roger is, and will likely be, my absolute favorite Bond. I was born in the 1990's with Pierce Brosnan as Bond, yet it was Roger Moore's portrayal that I found particularly admirable. His Bond is the consummate gentleman; charming, romantic, yet able to hold his own in a fight. His brand of Bond preferred wits over weapons, love over conflict, and when he delivered those one-liners he really hit the nail on the head. Moore played a wonderfully deceptive Bond; as he pointed out with that particular fish in Stromberg's aquarium in The Spy Who Loved Me, "handsome but deadly".
There is a popular criticism that Moore holds nothing over Connery, yet when push came to shove, Octopussy emerged the unsung hero over Never Say Never Again in 1983. Moore proved that Bond didn't have to be restricted to balled-up-fists and ruthlessness, and it was his refusal to imitate Sean Connery that contributed to his success in the role. Certainly there have been many great actors to play Bond in the last fifty years, but Moore will always be the one I look up to.
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Very well put Adam. I agree 100%.
"Handsome but deadly" is one of my favorite quotes.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
How would you rank the Roger Moore Bond films in order?
(Number in brackets is how I'd rank the films overall among the 23 official films)
1. For Your Eyes Only (11)
2. Live and Let Die (13)
3. Octopussy (15)
4. The Man with the Golden Gun (19)
5. A View to a Kill (20)
6. The Spy Who Loved Me (21)
7. Moonraker (22)
As for "Fleming Purists" who dislike Rog, I will say that OHMSS plot is the most ridiculous over-the-top story to ever appear. Even Dr. No had a battle with a giant squid and YOLT featured a deadly garden of maneating plants. So I don't understand why you guys are taking Bond so freakin seriously.
Because that's the way it was written. Yes, some of Fleming's plots were over the top too, but there's a difference between an over-the-top plot and an actor who doesn't take the character seriously. Fleming's Bond wasn't written to be a comedian, his version of Bond are meant to be adult adventures. Dalton has got it right by having read all of Fleming's novels before portraying the role of Bond, so he was in a position to understand and respect the character that Fleming created.
A nice worker from there started chatting with me and soon I told him, that I was a Bond fan. He told me, that they had a lot of events involving all kind of moviestars and Roger Moore was their all-favorite.
Imo, this says a lot about the man. It's not what the press says, it's what the normal people say and how you treat them.
He did not have anything kind to say about Connery though
From what I've read, everyone has only nice things to say about Moore the man, and I respect him for that. He probably is one of the nicest guys to ever walk the planet. I respect him as a man. But in Roger Moore style, I shall say nothing about his portrayal of Bond.
Credit where credit's due, though. For Your Eyes Only is a very, very good film with a decent (Fleming-esque) plot and amalgamated elements from two short stories that Fleming wrote. It only just misses out on being a top 10 film for me.
Moore was actually the first choice for Bond before Connery took the Role.
As I understand, Roger Moore was one of numerous actors considered for the role of Bond. He was not the first choice, he was not approached or offered the role.
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Because that's the way it was written. Yes, some of Fleming's plots were over the top too, but there's a difference between an over-the-top plot and an actor who doesn't take the character seriously. Fleming's Bond wasn't written to be a comedian, his version of Bond are meant to be adult adventures. Dalton has got it right by having read all of Fleming's novels before portraying the role of Bond, so he was in a position to understand and respect the character that Fleming created.
Sorry if you find followin g parts offensive, but I really have enough of all that Dalton-fanboy-dome and the connected myth-building.
1. It may be that Dalton read all Bond novels, but I am sure, that Connery, Moore and Brosnan prepared themselfs for the role by reading some of the novels as well.
So emphasizing this fact and repeating it on and on is simply marketing - nothing more and nothing less!
It does not make him a better actor and the others less.
2. Moore Bonds are NOT comedies! They are pure cinetop from the 70s and 80s, they are made for entertainment! If EON would have gone the more serious approach at that time, I am well sure, that their tanker would have been grounded!
3. The line of command for changing the direction of a movie series does not start with the main actor!
Usually that decision is done by the producers, then they brief the screenwriters and the director, the main roles are casted according to these orders and the main actor has to play what they are telling him.
He certainly does not tell a director or a producer what he plays or not!
So if people want to blame Moore for a "respectless" treatment of IFs treasure is as false as praising Dalton for doing the opposite. IMO, Dalton had the most ridiculous gadgets, think of the whistle-operated keyhanger the laser-hubcaps or the x-ray camera or the wheelie with the tanker.
Admittedly the Tarzan yell was a lowpoint for the Roger-Bond but I am told, that MGM-EON themselfs and Glen wanted it to happen.
So if people want to criticize Moore, they should more criticize the producers or the cinema audience going for a certain direction. And if I see the box office numbers for LTK, I know who brought the audiences to Bond and it was certainly not Dalton!
Rant over!
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
A year ago, I was in front of the Grauman Theatre at the Hollywood Walk of fame and watched Connery's hand- and footprints there.
A nice worker from there started chatting with me and soon I told him, that I was a Bond fan. He told me, that they had a lot of events involving all kind of moviestars and Roger Moore was their all-favorite.
Imo, this says a lot about the man. It's not what the press says, it's what the normal people say and how you treat them.
He did not have anything kind to say about Connery though
If I was looking for a friend it would be Moore over Connery any day, but If I was looking for James Bond...
Another rant of mine concerns A View to a Kill. Absolutely boggles my mind that this film is so unpopular. I consider it the best Bond film of the 80's and one of the high water marks of the series. Javrio let's have a drink sometime
Yep, totally agree. I've heard all the reasons why people don't like AVTAK, but these reasons hardly effect my enjoyment of it, and the good points about the film more than make up for them. Yes, we should have that drink -{
Sir Roger is, and will likely be, my absolute favorite Bond. I was born in the 1990's with Pierce Brosnan as Bond, yet it was Roger Moore's portrayal that I found particularly admirable. His Bond is the consummate gentleman; charming, romantic, yet able to hold his own in a fight. His brand of Bond preferred wits over weapons, love over conflict, and when he delivered those one-liners he really hit the nail on the head. Moore played a wonderfully deceptive Bond; as he pointed out with that particular fish in Stromberg's aquarium in The Spy Who Loved Me, "handsome but deadly".
There is a popular criticism that Moore holds nothing over Connery, yet when push came to shove, Octopussy emerged the unsung hero over Never Say Never Again in 1983. Moore proved that Bond didn't have to be restricted to balled-up-fists and ruthlessness, and it was his refusal to imitate Sean Connery that contributed to his success in the role. Certainly there have been many great actors to play Bond in the last fifty years, but Moore will always be the one I look up to.
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Very well put Adam. I agree 100%.
"Handsome but deadly" is one of my favorite quotes.
blackleiter I have two words for you: "celebrate diversity"
wouldn't it be boring if we all liked the exact same stuff? seeing as this is a FAN site, we should be able to post admiration for our favorites without having to endure your constant put downs.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
blackleiter I have two words for you: "celebrate diversity"
wouldn't it be boring if we all liked the exact same stuff? seeing as this is a FAN site, we should be able to post admiration for our favorites without having to endure your constant put downs.
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“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
blackleiter I have two words for you: "celebrate diversity"
wouldn't it be boring if we all liked the exact same stuff? seeing as this is a FAN site, we should be able to post admiration for our favorites without having to endure your constant put downs.
Blackleiter is secretly a Roger Moore Bond admirer. He just won't admit it in public.
And I agree, "celebrate diversity" It would be boring if we all liked the exact same stuff. Also, the different portrayals that each of the actors has brought to the role of Bond, and the different styles of the films has for me been one of the series greatest strengths.
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blackleiter I have two words for you: "celebrate diversity"
wouldn't it be boring if we all liked the exact same stuff? seeing as this is a FAN site, we should be able to post admiration for our favorites without having to endure your constant put downs.
And under your 'same flag' of 'celebrating diversity' Blackleiter has every right to offer his opinion also...that is what a discussion is all about...not just ten people all saying "yes, you are right"....I'm sure you understand this...
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For sure! There was no way Connery could have pulled off that AVTAK hot tub scene.
I think Connery looked like hell in Diamonds are Forever, and even You Only Live Twice there is a sluggishness to him. Without Terence Young, he adopts terrible posture.
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
Even so, NSNA played up the age factor. In AVTAK, we're supposed to believe he'sa 40+ year old man.
That I agree with. He certainly looked during the '70's, especially in LALD and TMWTGG. But, he did get old, and it showed in him, too.
All of that is rather poorly done, except the song of course. Zorin is a great concept but Walken is not allowed to do much rather than laugh nervously, and the Golden Gate finale is both implausible and rather comically done.
This was my first Roger Moore Bond. Not a great way to get acquinted with the actor's Bond, is it?
I actually think he'd have sold it better. But, this is a Moore thread, so I won't press. :P
There were several factors why he was bored by YOLT, and among them, money. He wanted a pay raise, and the producers gave him the middle finger. He also couldn't stand the publicity and he lost a couple of parts because of the film. He wanted out - not having Terence Young around didn't have anything to do with it.
Great points. He did look older, but they made a conscious effort to not make fun of his age by teaming him with women half his age, thus Maud Adams, who did play the part as his equal too, and given their similar ages, it played nicely.
What would've been interesting, is to have had OP as Moore's final Bond film.
Ironically, if it was not for the return of Sean Connery in Never Say Never Again, then Roger would likely not have returned in Octopussy. So you can (in my case) thank Sean, or blame him for extending Roger's tenure as Bond.
However, I honestly think Roger Moore returned for AVTAK because Cubby wanted to spite Connery for returning for his seventh film in a rival Bond film. I don't see why else would he want him back, because Cubby did comment early in the 80's that Moore was geting a little too old.
I do not know exactly why Cubby Broccoli invited Roger Moore back for A View To A Kill. I am inclined to believe it was a thank you to Roger for his performance and the success of Octopussy over Never Say Never Again, rather than a reason to spite Sean Connery.
'Wild Geese' star Sir Roger Moore on making the action classic, now out on Blu-ray
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/12/10/wild-geese-sir-roger-moore-blu-ray/
I Still think "The Wilde Geese" is one of Sir Roger's best movies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro7vdOMmMSs&feature=related
I know. I thought they were his best performances as Bond apart from TSWLM.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
As for "Fleming Purists" who dislike Rog, I will say that OHMSS plot is the most ridiculous over-the-top story to ever appear. Even Dr. No had a battle with a giant squid and YOLT featured a deadly garden of maneating plants. So I don't understand why you guys are taking Bond so freakin seriously. Roger was smart enough to realize that the role would be best played with a touch of humor.
Another rant of mine concerns A View to a Kill. Absolutely boggles my mind that this film is so unpopular. I consider it the best Bond film of the 80's and one of the high water marks of the series. Javrio let's have a drink sometime
Not that it really matters, but I think Rog actually looks younger in AVTAK than he did in FYEO and OP.
My ranking:
1. TSWLM 10/10
2. AVTAK 10/10
3. FYEO 9/10
4. MR 8/10
5. LALD 7/10
6. OP 6/10
7. TMWTGG 4/10
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
A nice worker from there started chatting with me and soon I told him, that I was a Bond fan. He told me, that they had a lot of events involving all kind of moviestars and Roger Moore was their all-favorite.
Imo, this says a lot about the man. It's not what the press says, it's what the normal people say and how you treat them.
He did not have anything kind to say about Connery though
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
right on James. I whole heartedly agree that the 80s is the best decade for 007. (see my post in the John Glen thread)
FYEO is a marvelous film. Even the anti-Moore crowd will grudgingly add that one to their top 10 list because it's so legit.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Very well put Adam. I agree 100%.
"Handsome but deadly" is one of my favorite quotes.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
(Number in brackets is how I'd rank the films overall among the 23 official films)
1. For Your Eyes Only (11)
2. Live and Let Die (13)
3. Octopussy (15)
4. The Man with the Golden Gun (19)
5. A View to a Kill (20)
6. The Spy Who Loved Me (21)
7. Moonraker (22)
Because that's the way it was written. Yes, some of Fleming's plots were over the top too, but there's a difference between an over-the-top plot and an actor who doesn't take the character seriously. Fleming's Bond wasn't written to be a comedian, his version of Bond are meant to be adult adventures. Dalton has got it right by having read all of Fleming's novels before portraying the role of Bond, so he was in a position to understand and respect the character that Fleming created.
From what I've read, everyone has only nice things to say about Moore the man, and I respect him for that. He probably is one of the nicest guys to ever walk the planet. I respect him as a man. But in Roger Moore style, I shall say nothing about his portrayal of Bond.
Credit where credit's due, though. For Your Eyes Only is a very, very good film with a decent (Fleming-esque) plot and amalgamated elements from two short stories that Fleming wrote. It only just misses out on being a top 10 film for me.
As I understand, Roger Moore was one of numerous actors considered for the role of Bond. He was not the first choice, he was not approached or offered the role.
Sorry if you find followin g parts offensive, but I really have enough of all that Dalton-fanboy-dome and the connected myth-building.
1. It may be that Dalton read all Bond novels, but I am sure, that Connery, Moore and Brosnan prepared themselfs for the role by reading some of the novels as well.
So emphasizing this fact and repeating it on and on is simply marketing - nothing more and nothing less!
It does not make him a better actor and the others less.
2. Moore Bonds are NOT comedies! They are pure cinetop from the 70s and 80s, they are made for entertainment! If EON would have gone the more serious approach at that time, I am well sure, that their tanker would have been grounded!
3. The line of command for changing the direction of a movie series does not start with the main actor!
Usually that decision is done by the producers, then they brief the screenwriters and the director, the main roles are casted according to these orders and the main actor has to play what they are telling him.
He certainly does not tell a director or a producer what he plays or not!
So if people want to blame Moore for a "respectless" treatment of IFs treasure is as false as praising Dalton for doing the opposite. IMO, Dalton had the most ridiculous gadgets, think of the whistle-operated keyhanger the laser-hubcaps or the x-ray camera or the wheelie with the tanker.
Admittedly the Tarzan yell was a lowpoint for the Roger-Bond but I am told, that MGM-EON themselfs and Glen wanted it to happen.
So if people want to criticize Moore, they should more criticize the producers or the cinema audience going for a certain direction. And if I see the box office numbers for LTK, I know who brought the audiences to Bond and it was certainly not Dalton!
Rant over!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
If I was looking for a friend it would be Moore over Connery any day, but If I was looking for James Bond...
Yep, totally agree. I've heard all the reasons why people don't like AVTAK, but these reasons hardly effect my enjoyment of it, and the good points about the film more than make up for them. Yes, we should have that drink -{
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
wouldn't it be boring if we all liked the exact same stuff? seeing as this is a FAN site, we should be able to post admiration for our favorites without having to endure your constant put downs.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Blackleiter is secretly a Roger Moore Bond admirer. He just won't admit it in public.
And I agree, "celebrate diversity" It would be boring if we all liked the exact same stuff. Also, the different portrayals that each of the actors has brought to the role of Bond, and the different styles of the films has for me been one of the series greatest strengths.
And under your 'same flag' of 'celebrating diversity' Blackleiter has every right to offer his opinion also...that is what a discussion is all about...not just ten people all saying "yes, you are right"....I'm sure you understand this...