"Oddjob's" Weapon?

This is my first time on this site; I'm hoping someone can help.

From the estate of a former James Bond production executive, I've come into the possession of a nickle-plated .357 Magnum in mint condition, and told by his widow that he purchased it for use by one of the villians (she thought it was Oddjob) for either Goldfinger or another similar-aged Bond film.

During his life, I know he was on location for a number of Bond films and saw some of the memorabilia he'd collected, so I've good reason to believe in the veracity of her story. I double checked the weapon's history, and it was indeed purchased in Los Angeles at about the time Goldfinger was filmed. A check with Wikipedia did not reveal Oddjob using anything other than the Bowler Hat and a "pistol" as weapons, so I am unsure of the provenance, or whether perhaps it was purchased for use by another villian.

Can anyone shed any light on this? Thanks in advance for any help.
Shoe

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  • cartel41cartel41 Posts: 24MI6 Agent
    Do you have any pictures of the handgun? I'm sorry I do not know the answer to your question but I believe someone may see it and be able to guide you further.

    Cheers
  • ShoeShoe Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    cartel41 wrote:
    Do you have any pictures of the handgun? I'm sorry I do not know the answer to your question but I believe someone may see it and be able to guide you further.

    Cheers

    I'm not technologically gifted, but my granddaughter is, and when she comes by I'll ask her to take several photos and attach them to a reply. As I mentioned, I knew the original owner was on location during several Bond films (including Goldfinger), and have seen some of the memorabilia he collected. I'm therefore fairly certain the gun was used by a Bond villian; I'm just not not sure which one or when....
    Thanks,
    Shoe
  • ShoeShoe Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    Shoe wrote:
    cartel41 wrote:
    Do you have any pictures of the handgun? I'm sorry I do not know the answer to your question but I believe someone may see it and be able to guide you further.

    Cheers

    I'm not technologically gifted, but my granddaughter is, and when she comes by I'll ask her to take several photos and attach them to a reply. As I mentioned, I knew the original owner was on location during several Bond films (including Goldfinger), and have seen some of the memorabilia he collected. I'm therefore fairly certain the gun was used by a Bond villian; I'm just not not sure which one or when....
    Thanks,
    Shoe

    Success. Here are two photos of the gun. More can be taken if desired.
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  • ShoeShoe Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    cartel41 wrote:
    Do you have any pictures of the handgun? I'm sorry I do not know the answer to your question but I believe someone may see it and be able to guide you further.

    Cheers
    Two pictures have been posted.
    Shoe
  • Mister GreeneMister Greene Posts: 224MI6 Agent
    I can't remember a Bond villain using a Colt Python in any movie.
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    Hi, and welcome....

    I've only had a few minutes looking into this so I might be horribly wrong, but I'm afraid I think you information is a little garbled, but not entirely incorrect.

    I think this is a colt python 357 magnum, 6inch barrel version, and the only time I can think such a gun figured in a bond film was the man with the golden gun ( hence your thought that it was gold finger) although this was 10+yrs later.

    And the gun only figures as part of the assassin's gun collection, seen here in the locked cabinet, on the left.

    http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Mwtgg-cabinet.jpg

    It looks to me that this is your gun.

    Hope that helps, best Paul
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Can't recall any villain using a gun, but didn't one of the books feature this gun as part of the cover art?

    Maybe it was bought so the film could stay true to the book but the idea was ditched?

    I'm no bond book collector though so I might be utterly wrong here.

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  • cartel41cartel41 Posts: 24MI6 Agent
    Octopussy, although this isn't nearly as fancy as the one you have
    http://www.imfdb.org/images/8/8a/Octop-python1.jpg
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Octop-python1.jpg

    "is that a spare barrel for your colt python 357 or are you particularly pleased to see me?"
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  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond +++ Classified +++Posts: 569MI6 Agent
    The name's Bond_James_Bond
  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    edited December 2012
    http://www.kaboomreview.com/wp-content/ … lald_3.jpg

    Live and Let Die

    Well that's not a Colt Python, I believe it's a S&W Mod 29 8 3/8 Barrel in .44 Mag (The Dirty Harry S&W)

    Bond did pick up a .357 Colt Python in the alley but that had a 2" barrel so not that one either.
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    Well that's not a Colt Python, I believe it's a S&W Mod 29 8 3/8 Barrel in .44 Mag (The Dirty Harry S&W)

    Bond did pick up a .357 Colt Python in the alley but that had a 2" barrel so not that one either.

    Sorry GM ( really :) ) but it looks like a colt python 6" barrel to me - it even says colt on the handle :)
    http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:ColtPython6In.jpg

    th_95e58d26d41600e49f9e1393c1a5761c.jpg
    th_04d68600c9386403b8948bfe920fde81.jpg

    And the other photo ( where u can even read the word colt) versus the tmwgg gun cabinet..

    th_677e9b97c94ed5bade4f51e5658fd6a7.jpg
    th_b32c2532cf7e9bd1bd455fa4f7fa8f64.jpg
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    cartel41 wrote:
    Octopussy, although this isn't nearly as fancy as the one you have
    http://www.imfdb.org/images/8/8a/Octop-python1.jpg

    Sorry right gun, but a 4" barrel
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    Well that's not a Colt Python, I believe it's a S&W Mod 29 8 3/8 Barrel in .44 Mag (The Dirty Harry S&W)

    Bond did pick up a .357 Colt Python in the alley but that had a 2" barrel so not that one either.

    But you're right about the 2" barrel in LALD ( where he famously used the s&w )
  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    Hi Paul

    My post #12 was referring to Bond_James_Bond's post #11, the link show's RM in LALD with a S&W Nickel 29. ;%
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    ke02eww wrote:
    Well that's not a Colt Python, I believe it's a S&W Mod 29 8 3/8 Barrel in .44 Mag (The Dirty Harry S&W)

    Bond did pick up a .357 Colt Python in the alley but that had a 2" barrel so not that one either.

    Sorry GM ( really :) ) but it looks like a colt python 6" barrel to me - it even says colt on the handle :)
    http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:ColtPython6In.jpg

    th_95e58d26d41600e49f9e1393c1a5761c.jpg
    th_04d68600c9386403b8948bfe920fde81.jpg

    And the other photo ( where u can even read the word colt) versus the tmwgg gun cabinet..

    th_677e9b97c94ed5bade4f51e5658fd6a7.jpg
    th_b32c2532cf7e9bd1bd455fa4f7fa8f64.jpg

    On reflection ( and a nudge) seems GM was referring to the post #11 which tgt it might be the LALD revolver ( which is indeed a s&w)

    How could I have tgt GM would make a mistake with guns?

    This is a pic of GM getting in the way of me "shooting" video at our recent gig at the range..
    th_7dfe7f569f5b39e2aac7aa6a7a81250a.jpg
  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,253MI6 Agent
    It seems to me that the Colt Python shown here could likely be the one seen in Scaramanga's cabinet in The Man with the Golden Gun. Unless the lighting is throwing off my eyes the gun in the cabinet looks like the one in the photos. I must say that is quite a nice find, since Colt ceased production of the Python in 2004 this revolver is very popular with gun collectors if it is good condition like it is here.




    PS: Odd Job does in fact use a gun in Goldfinger, He uses a silenced Colt M1911A1 with a suppressor to kill Mr. Solo after he pulls off the highway. Also MiniGeff is correct that a revlover was used for the cover art of the novel From Russia With Love. It was Geoffery Boothroyd's S&W Centenial Airweight however and not a Colt Python.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Ah, I knew I'd seen a revolver on one of the books.

    I'm not that into the books though so couldn't recall which one it was. There's no pics in them books either and I prefer mine to have loads of line drawings and include a pack of crayons.
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  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    Some of us do know how you like your so called "books" MG, pics n all :D

    But I think Mr.Gupta's safe stuff is more like Bondtoys area :v :D
    Knowing who to trust is Everything in this business.

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  • ShoeShoe Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    Sorry, I've been away for a few days.

    Many thanks to all of you who have responded (especially ke02eww and ppk 7.65mm) and to the length of research you've gone to help sort this out. I now have good reason to beileve that it indeed is a part of the collection in "The Man with the Golden Gun," and am now seeking further provenance by contacting the family of the production crew person who acquired it.

    On recent research, I found the gun was purchased in Los Angeles, apparently in the early 1970's, which correlates favorably with the date that "Golden Gun" was released. In any event, the weapon fires smoothly and accurately and is in mint condition. I intend to keep it that way.

    Thanks again.
    Shoe
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