GoldenEye<------------------------------>Skyfall
JohnMasterson
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The reason why I made this big ass double-sided arrow in between GoldenEye and Skyfall, is because I personally feel like you could almost put Skyfall within the same continuity as GoldenEye. I mean, I know Daniel Craig is a much, much different Bond than what Pierce Brosnan was, but both GoldenEye and Skyfall establish the fact that the James Bond character in general has been around for quite a while...Except GoldenEye never really touched upon OO7's age. But Skyfall did.
Bond never really had to adapt to the new post-cold war era of the 1990's but in Skyfall, Bond had to deal with the technological terrorist known as Silva, by seemingly going back "in time," to the rural area of Scotland, and using relatively low-tech methodology to wage war on his home turf. I guess Skyfall is a bit more well thought-out than GoldenEye but I don't care, I like 'em both about the same anyway.
By the way, I know there's a new Miss Moneypenny in Skyfall, but looking back upon the films prior to GoldenEye, you can't seriously expect me to believe that Samantha Bond, Caroline Bliss and Lois Maxwell were all the one and only Miss Moneypenny, can you? I mean, the four Miss Moneypennies themselves have been as equally different as the six actors to put on the James Bond, OO7, tuxedo.
Bond never really had to adapt to the new post-cold war era of the 1990's but in Skyfall, Bond had to deal with the technological terrorist known as Silva, by seemingly going back "in time," to the rural area of Scotland, and using relatively low-tech methodology to wage war on his home turf. I guess Skyfall is a bit more well thought-out than GoldenEye but I don't care, I like 'em both about the same anyway.
By the way, I know there's a new Miss Moneypenny in Skyfall, but looking back upon the films prior to GoldenEye, you can't seriously expect me to believe that Samantha Bond, Caroline Bliss and Lois Maxwell were all the one and only Miss Moneypenny, can you? I mean, the four Miss Moneypennies themselves have been as equally different as the six actors to put on the James Bond, OO7, tuxedo.
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Bond in GE and SF feels very much like an updated version of Connery's Bond, something which I really like, and it shows very much so in Craig's portrayal.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Have you ever felt like this with Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton or George Lazenby? Is there a moment in any of Rog, George or Tim's films where you believe that they're almost an updated version of Sean Connery?
I'm sorry but I want an answer out of the person that I was actually quoting in my previous post.
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I don't mean to negate the other Bond films but they don't seem to fit within the timeline. I also don't mean to make James Bond come across as a crotchety old man who's been around for years, but I was going by the real-world release date years, that these 12 Bond films came out in. For all I know, Mr. James Bond could be on a sliding comic book timeline, where everything happened but it happened in less time than you, the viewer, believed it happened in.
I was tempted to put The World Is Not Enough on my real-world James Bondian timeline, because the title of the film is connected to Ian Fleming, and they even mention OO7's family motto in the motion picture but in GoldenEye there was a slip-up with Robbie Coltrane, the actor who played Valentin Zukovsky. I believe Robbie Coltrane was supposed to say, "Are you still working for MI6 or have you decided to join the Twentieth Century?"
But in the film, he doesn't say that, I believe Robbie Coltrane said, "Are you still working for MI6 or have you decided to join the Twenty-First Century?" At least, that's the way it came across to me, while I was watching the DVD playback on my television set. And then in The World Is Not Enough, there is further confusion over what century the characters are in, because they mention "Y2K," and I think they were characters in the film talking about how the events in (TWINE) are taking place before the "Turn of the century," or something like that. I wouldn't hold it against World Is Not Enough if Robbie Coltrane wasn't in it. But he is.
Then you should use PM and not the public forum.
Wish I thought of that earlier but I didn't think of that. I also wish that I could delete the post that you're quoting from but I can't.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
I'll admit it doesn't make sense when you look at the real world timeline that we as human beings live on, but apparently James Bond is a timeless character. Even when he does age, it's the actor who plays him, who does the aging. With a change of actor (or change of physical appearance) Bond goes back to being exactly where he was when he first started. A timeless character who will never die. (Unless he falls into the hands of an even worse pair of producers than Barbara and Michael, that is.)