Who were the least muscular Bonds?

osris

I would say Brosnan, Lazenby and Dalton.

welshboy78

Lazenby surely more muscular then Moore????

AlphaOmegaSin

Connery had no Muscles whatsoever.

Theundeadkennedy

Moore.

osris

welshboy78 wrote:

Lazenby surely more muscular then Moore????

It's been so long since I saw OHMSS I can't remember if Lazenby showed his chest or not.

ZorinIndustries

Lazenby--- Check out the PTS as Lazenby runs towards the water. The shirt seems tight on him and he seemed to be pretty thin for the most part

osris

Theundeadkennedy wrote:

Moore.

Yes, Moore had the bulk, which made him look good in a suit, but he was approaching flabby in some of the Bond films.

Theundeadkennedy

osris wrote:

Yes, Moore had the bulk, which made him look good in a suit, but he was approaching flabby in some of the Bond films.

I don't believe Moore brought the bulk. He had good bone structure and a large rib cage. Which gave him a good Frame to wear the suits he did. Connery had more muscle than Moore, smaller rib cage filled in with actual muscle. Just the way I see it based on watching the movies and screen shots from the movies.

Sherbrook

AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

Connery had no Muscles whatsoever.

Connery was placed in the Mr Universe comp in the late 50s so he must have had some vestiges of muscularity

Jarvio

Lazenby and Moore. The other 4 don't even come close

Jarvio

Order from most muscly to least:

Craig
Connery
Dalton
Brosnan
Lazenby
Moore

(Just a rough guess)

Theundeadkennedy

Jarvio wrote:

Order from most muscly to least:

Craig
Connery
Dalton
Brosnan
Lazenby
Moore

(Just a rough guess)

That's pretty much the exact order I would have gone with. Part of me is undecided on which order Lazenby and Brosnan would be in. Lazenby was a pretty fit guy, slim but fit.

walther p99

Definitely Brosnan, Moore and Dalton, all of them had no muscle definition whatsoever and had varying amounts of flab depending on the film, Moore especially had a pathetic physique. Brosnan was a stick in GE, whereas in TND's his jawline is not nearly as sharp or prominent as in GE due to his weight gain between films, same for TWINE and DAD. Lazenby had a fit, athletic physique, Connery had some muscle definition from his bodybuilding days in his first 4 films, and Craig is self explanatory.

chrisisall

The perfect Bond bodies were in:
TB
OHMSS
TLD/LTK
TND

Craig is very nicely built for a short guy.

End of story. :007)

alphaagent

NOT A CHANCE...order is

Craig
Connery
Lazenby
Brosnan
Dalton
Moore

Blackleiter

Correct!

Theundeadkennedy wrote:

Moore.

Moore Than

Woody Allen.

minigeff

Bob Holness.

It's all gone a bit ginger beer round here hasn't it?

osris

I think Connery had the perfect physique for Bond: tall, slender, muscular but not muscle-bound, and enough body hair to exude masculinity. The other Bonds, apart from Craig, look puny in comparison. And Craig’s physique, though muscular, is a little too stocky.

Theundeadkennedy

I honestly don't understand it when people say Craig is too stocky or bulky. He's not a big guy, very muscular, but not big. I'm the same height and I out weigh him by 10-20 pounds, and I'm small by American standards. So maybe it's a cultural thing.
In a world where more and more people choose martial arts as their hobby or sport, it's safe to assume many of Bond's enemies will be very well rounded fighters that have also been trained to kill. Brute force may not be gentlemanly, but it may be necessary to defeat an enemy who's as highly trained as you are.
Also, I believe his level of muscularity adds to the realism of the rebooted series. If he were as slight as some previous Bonds, he would be spending most of his time in the hospital recovering from injuries he wasn't built to take. His muscles act as an armor and with the trouble he gets into, he could use as much armor as possible.
Just my take though.

minigeff

It wouldn't matter to some people even if DC was the perfect figure for Bond (whatever that is), he's blonde remember and we all know blonde people can't act 8-)

I can see this sliding into yet another angle at which to dig DC from.

osris

minigeff wrote:

It wouldn't matter to some people even if DC was the perfect figure for Bond (whatever that is), he's blonde remember and we all know blonde people can't act 8-)

I can see this sliding into yet another angle at which to dig DC from.

But he’s not the "perfect" figure for Bond is he; otherwise all the previous Bond actors would have been his build, had his hair colour and lack of charisma.

I think he is a good actor, by the way, but miscast for Bond.

alphaagent

osris wrote:

minigeff wrote:

It wouldn't matter to some people even if DC was the perfect figure for Bond (whatever that is), he's blonde remember and we all know blonde people can't act 8-)

I can see this sliding into yet another angle at which to dig DC from.

But he’s not the "perfect" figure for Bond is he; otherwise all the previous Bond actors would have been his build, had his hair colour and lack of charisma.

I think he is a good actor, by the way, but miscast for Bond.

absoloutely agree, Bond is strong but not a body builder and he is supposed to be a spy/secret agent, Craig looks too much like a russian hitman, great actor, grateful he bought the series back but we need that charisma and charm because i feel it's lack has been felt allot more as each film rolled on.

minigeff

I think the variety of builds that we've seen in previous Bonds is an indication that its not really that important.

The charisma bit I can get though, and I think we've seen more comedy quips in SF, perhaps bond 24 will bring more charm into the mix?

Ens007

alphaagent wrote:

osris wrote:

minigeff wrote:

It wouldn't matter to some people even if DC was the perfect figure for Bond (whatever that is), he's blonde remember and we all know blonde people can't act 8-)

I can see this sliding into yet another angle at which to dig DC from.

But he’s not the "perfect" figure for Bond is he; otherwise all the previous Bond actors would have been his build, had his hair colour and lack of charisma.

I think he is a good actor, by the way, but miscast for Bond.

absoloutely agree, Bond is strong but not a body builder and he is supposed to be a spy/secret agent, Craig looks too much like a russian hitman, great actor, grateful he bought the series back but we need that charisma and charm because i feel it's lack has been felt allot more as each film rolled on.

I hardly see DC's physique as that of a bodybuilder, more someone who is lean, low bodyfat, well trained & looks like a professional in his field. I'm not sure where the eastern european hitman similarity comes in tbh.

IMO a number of the Bonds are dissimilar ... You could hardly compare the demeanour, physicality, stature & charm of say Connery, Moore and Dalton could you? Just seems to me that DC is the one to get the pasting. Isn't he playing the part & character he's been 'asked' to after all??

osris

alphaagent wrote:

we need that charisma and charm because i feel it's lack has been felt allot more as each film rolled on.

Yes we do. Everyone expected Craig’s Bond to eventually reach this state, as was hinted at by the producers when CR came out. But we have not had the goods delivered after two more films.

osris

minigeff wrote:

perhaps bond 24 will bring more charm into the mix?

If it doesn’t, what will your thoughts be then? Is there a point for you when you will lose patience with the reboot’s lack of “Bond charisma”?

osris

Ens007 wrote:

Just seems to me that DC is the one to get the pasting. Isn't he playing the part & character he's been 'asked' to after all??

I’m not blaming Craig for his performance, more the screenwriters and producers. It’s not Craig’s fault he’s been given run-of-the-mill action film scripts to deal with.

Ens007

I wouldn't lose patience whatsoever, as I've enjoyed all 3 of the reboot films in differing ways & for a variety of reasons. I also see hints of charisma & charm emerging through the DC character, but in a more subtle way. Perhaps a little more is needed for sure (so as to rid of the apparent coldness of the blunt instrument), but I would hate for some of the awful cheesiness from earlier films to come back in to the series.

Ens007

osris wrote:

Ens007 wrote:

Just seems to me that DC is the one to get the pasting. Isn't he playing the part & character he's been 'asked' to after all??

I’m not blaming Craig for his performance, more the screenwriters and producers. It’s not Craig’s fault he’s been given run-of-the-mill action film scripts to deal with.

Out of interest, you haven't liked CR or SF?

osris

Ens007 wrote:

Out of interest, you haven't liked CR or SF?

I liked them as action films, and as such they were of the more “intelligent” variety.

SF made an attempt to reconnect with the core Bond audience, presumably recognising that the reboot was a mistake, and alienated too many Bond fans, which the box office does need as well as general cinemagoers that are indifferent to Bond, and who see each new Bond film as any other action film.

Eon has now, I suspect, realised its mistake, and will from now on try to remodel the reboot to satisfy the core Bond fans, who are really the ones who matter, not the indifferent general cinemagoer the reboot was designed to pander to.