The way James Bond ties his tie knots
Kaleema007
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okay so we all know that James Bond chooses to tie his knot in a 4 in hand knot or sometimes a double knot. Bond ties with a four-in-hand or double four-in-hand knot, characterised by its asymmetrical shape. my question is how does he get that perfect dimple when he ties it? sometimes i manage to pull it off and sometimes i dont. im sure its based off technique as well as material of the tie. sometimes i get multiple dimples that just makes the tie look sloppy. then i get the perfect dimple that every man who wants to be Bond strives for in their ties. Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig were good examples of how to get the perfect dimple out of their ties. does anyone have a answer for this, how to get the perfect dimple out of a 4 in hand knot? :007)
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Notice how Bond's tie knots are perfect!
it has been confirmed numerous times. and ive never heard of a pratt knot before. ill look into that
Hello....what I do is that as I am doing the last pass through the knot to finish, I pinch and pull and pinch and pull as I tighten the knot, getting the dimple. Hope it helps...
any pictures you can post?
That's just the way i do it too. And if you put your index finger into the dimple as you tighten it, you get just he one, deep dimple. Simple!
Here you go.....again, hope it helps....
Exactly, you explained it much better, thanks!
You are welcome.....little details in dressing sharp are worth the effort...Youtube has some "dimple" videos too...
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
No, I believe that Fleming wrote that windsor knot shows too much vanity and is (often) "a sign of a cad". And eventhough Bond mistrusted anyone who tied a windsor knot, it was only coincidental that Donovan "Red" Grant turned out to be a traitor.
-Mr Arlington Beech
We use the four in hand in the US Army.
Here's what he wrote:
“It was tied with a Windsor knot. Bond mistrusted anyone who tied his tie with a Windsor knot. It showed too much vanity. It was often the mark of a cad.” (From Russia with Love, Chapter 25)
I don't know if his distaste for the Windsor knot is due to its size, symmetry or both. If it's symmetry, the Half Windsor and Pratt knots should be avoided. If it's size, the double four-in-hand (like what the Duke of Windsor wore) is to be avoided.
I also learned to tie a whole host of other useful knots to become a mariner, but that's another story.
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
so if the double four in hand knot is to be avoided, then how did pierce and daniel get their knots to look a bigger size from just the simple four in hand knot?
They may have used a double four-in-hand, or their ties were wide enough and thick enough to make a large knot. I think the double four-in-hand is an acceptable knot; it's the symmetrical knots that are really to be avoided.
Hard not to if you are wearing uniform, RAF for a start, as the Windsor is the one specified by regulations.
While I can't speak for modern U.K. Forces, deviating from wearing standard kit has long been a privilege of rank and elite status. Montgomery wore bush hats and berets, Patton wore ivory handled revolvers, McArthur wore a Field Marshal cap and there were no Field Marshals in the U.S. Army.
In the U.S. today, the Airborne Cavalry wears the old civil war era cavalry hat, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning". Special Forces, otherwise known as Green Berets, adopted the green beret from British Commandos. It was not authorized until much later. U.S. Cracker Jack sailors often embroider the inside of the sleeves and they can only be seen when folded up. Very salty! I could go on and on.
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
A large part of it is because the Turnbull & Aseer ties are well made, heavy silk, so it's easier to get an impressive knot than today 's skinnier ties... Kinda reflective of 90's opulence vs today's more constrained times...