the scale is all over the place on models so be careful, they are not truly accurate.
Grills come up for sale reasonably often and with surround a decent one might come in circa £500 - any replica should really use Aston parts as it would be hugely cost and time prohibitive to remanufacture existing stuff. Lights etc are standard Lucas anyway, door handels are Mk 1 Escort - the body is bit to get right to take the real stuff. Only way to do that succesfully is to take a mould from an original.
Thanks for the doorhandle tip, I didn't know.
Yes, I know that the models are not accurate to 100%
But with some reference parts to take mesaurments from
Like a front windscreen (300£ from supplier I know from
Work).or front or rear lights.
Should hear from the boat company this coming week
About price for scan and cnc the model.
Martin.
Ps. What about " martin's aston" as a name )
Thanks for the doorhandle tip, I didn't know.
Yes, I know that the models are not accurate to 100%
But with some reference parts to take mesaurments from
Like a front windscreen (300£ from supplier I know from
Work).or front or rear lights.
Should hear from the boat company this coming week
About price for scan and cnc the model.
Martin.
Ps. What about " martin's aston" as a name )
Love the name!
windscreens available over here £275 - rear lights standard Lucas items repro or original about £60 a side
front and rear bumpers £1200.
I have designed a totally reliable number plate system and have the plans for the machine guns, although its easier to make better ones.
Friends, I am new to the board. I really like the posts. FYI, I will have several Bond cars, actors and collectable items at the 2013 Las Vegas Car Stars Show, Las Vegas-NV May 17-18. For more info visit our website. www.lasvegascarstars.com
Now, if anyone can assit with info regarding DB5 replica builders, please contact me. All the best and I look forward to the comments.
Friends, I am new to the board. I really like the posts. FYI, I will have several Bond cars, actors and collectable items at the 2013 Las Vegas Car Stars Show, Las Vegas-NV May 17-18. For more info visit our website. www.lasvegascarstars.com
Now, if anyone can assit with info regarding DB5 replica builders, please contact me. All the best and I look forward to the comments.
There is a db5 in the lasvegascarstars website.
So Tiger ( if you dont' mind the bond connection ) why
Do you need a replica? You got the real one.
Take a look at this pictures i found in a swedish building site.
Starting with some plywood and some foam and plaster.
Woow. Is this the goldfinger car or a remake?
How many db5 did they do for the movie?
I know one was stolen.
The BMW 750 is good driving(even without rockets). )
Guys ive seen two aston martin logos ...one with the wing logo and the text aston martin in a green box, the second the wings with the text david brown aston martin in a black box... Which one does the db 5 use?
Guys, was wondering if anyone had any good db5 wallpapers ? i plan to print and frame a cool Aston Martin Picture in my hobby room, off course with the BMT 216 A license plate preferred
Thanks guys
the Aston martin in the origanal italian job film ,the one the
mafia push over the cliff,isnt a Aston ,its a French car with the appropiate
body bits welded on ,i mean they was never going to sling an Aston of a cliff
Gentlemen, As this my first post I would like to introduce myself. Canadian, male, 48, Bond fan since I can remember...Dad was a big fan and took the family to go see "The Man with the Golden Gun" at the Mustang Drive-In Theatre in London, Ontario summer of 74....and had the Corgi DB5 (didn't lose the the little blue guy who sat in the injector seat)
I have been thinking about building a DB5 for myself for about two years. I have alway been a car guy...built a 1957 Porsche Speedster in the parents garage in my youth. Currently working on a 1977 Porsche 911 wide body...with a Chevy V8 383. Drive a x-type Jag daily.
I am EXTREMELY interested in this fiberglass DB5 replica and will be continuing to add to this thread...first off, has anyone seen this project first-hand ?
Curious: Generally speaking there's nothing to stop someone from making their own one-off DB5 replica but wouldn't there be copyright issues in "mass-producing" a commercial copy of the body?
For example, I don't see how EMC gets away with a Vanquish.
I am not completely familiar with copyright laws in various countries....but in North America there have been dozens of Porsche Speedster kits and turnkeys to buy for decades. I built one myself from a small manufacture in Barrie, Ontario, Canada. X-( It was an awful kit that needed a lot of effort to make decent...but it turned out quite nice. The key is the manufacturer should not put on ANY copyrighted names or symbols in their kits or on their cars that they sell to the public. They can let the new owners do that.... I really doubt a kit builder of any design would have any legal issues. On the other hand, you may recall that old black Ferrari GTO from the 80s TV cop show Miami Vice...I think built by McBurnie ? on a Vette chassis....Enzo went after him aggressively or so I heard. Perhap that is just a KitCar urban legend. 8-)
I would love to find out more about Mr. Rogers and his creation. After building a Speedster kit, I would really favour GRP panels attached to a modified unibody car...like a Volvo p1800...same wheelbase within 1/2" I believe...easier to get certified, insured, etc. But there are a number of approaches to custom auto construction.
Perhap someone in the UK could find the time to hunt down Mr. Peter Walde...and his fiberglass boat building/repair business in Cornwall ? Maybe he still has the molds...or know the whereabouts of Mr. Hugh Rogers. I e-mailed Classics Monthy...no reply yet...maybe I need to buy a subscription first )
For example, I don't see how EMC gets away with a Vanquish.
Probably because they haven't sold more than five of them. Despite the claim that "160 of the 200 car run are left", all of the pictures on their site appear to be of the same prototype, with either a second one or some decent photoshop work done to make the single picture of the black car.
They've completely priced themselves out of the game. Which would you buy: a second-hand Vanquish for 60-90K and put gadgets on it for another 10-20, or a mustang kitcar with gadgets for $170K?
The P1800 is an interesting idea - my father has restored plenty of those. At one point we had four of them so he's knowledgeable about the availability of parts and the like.
He still has two P1800s so if I can get one of them next to the DB6 gadget car I've been working on, a re-skin of an 1800 into a DB5 is more feasible than you might expect. The dashboard is completely wrong and would need to be scratchbuilt, but most of the interior fittings like seats and switchgear would make decent budget options for a faux DB5. Apart from the grille and bumpers, most of the exterior parts like light fittings are bog standard available MG-eque parts. The 1800s are really well-sorted vintage GT coupes and, while not nearly as exciting as an Aston Martin, would make for a fun vintage car toy.
Good news. I found mr rogers and his aston project
By acident really, made some friends tru work from the uk
And they helped me. So i mailed him some weeks ago
(Snail mail). No reply yet. But a goooood picture of the
Plug in his front yard. He he looks like the aston going
To sweden . (I hope).
For example, I don't see how EMC gets away with a Vanquish.
Probably because they haven't sold more than five of them. Despite the claim that "160 of the 200 car run are left", all of the pictures on their site appear to be of the same prototype, with either a second one or some decent photoshop work done to make the single picture of the black car.
They've completely priced themselves out of the game. Which would you buy: a second-hand Vanquish for 60-90K and put gadgets on it for another 10-20, or a mustang kitcar with gadgets for $170K?
My first reaction to that was that a Vanquish couldn't possibly be had for that little. But looking online, yup, that's the going rate.
I don't know that much about Astons: why is a used Vanquish half the cost of a used DBS?
Since EMC note that you can send them a righthand drive Mustang for conversion, wonder if you couldn't just send them a Vanquish and save a few bucks? (Ya, I know, no room in the engine compartment for all the gadgetry.)
Well as i told you,i did find hugh. And what the heck...
I called the guy he answered. He can not sell any shells
Because aston will probably be on him. And he is still using
The plug.but ...IF. ... He will sell bodies in the future
I'm on the list
there is nothing Aston can do about producing a replica Aston Martin - unless it described itself as such and was badged up.
Wouldn't be so sure about that. Directly copying someone else's design for your own financial gain could lead anyone to deep and troubled water. Copyright laws are one thing and intellectual property laws are another.
Not using aston badges? Think you're in the clear? Think again;
As for previous comments on it being more cost effective to trick out a real vanquish.... Have you seen under the bonnet of a vanq? To say its cosy in there is an understatement! Add on static guns for car shows maybe, press the button and out pop the guns however... no chance. Nick Finlayson and Andy Smith didn't rip out the V12 for nothing ya know. The toys require masses of space and £10-20k ain't gonna cover the cost of that kinda modding.
Good look with the DB5 replicas though, but I'd rather build my own car from my own design, otherwise it's a bit like a fake watch ain't it?
there is nothing Aston can do about producing a replica Aston Martin - unless it described itself as such and was badged up.
Wouldn't be so sure about that. Directly copying someone else's design for your own financial gain could lead anyone to deep and troubled water. Copyright laws are one thing and intellectual property laws are another.
Not using aston badges? Think you're in the clear? Think again;
As for previous comments on it being more cost effective to trick out a real vanquish.... Have you seen under the bonnet of a vanq? To say its cosy in there is an understatement! Add on static guns for car shows maybe, press the button and out pop the guns however... no chance. Nick Finlayson and Andy Smith didn't rip out the V12 for nothing ya know. The toys require masses of space and £10-20k ain't gonna cover the cost of that kinda modding.
Good look with the DB5 replicas though, but I'd rather build my own car from my own design, otherwise it's a bit like a fake watch ain't it?
I never tgt I'd say this, but good advice Jeff
I once spoke to aston martin about this and the comment was, we're relaxed about almost all the aston design/shapes except the DB5 - which they felt the owners of originals would be of a mind to bring a class action suit to protect their investments. And before anyone laughs, ask yourself how many of said group occupy key roles at the Bar ( no not the shaken not stirred variety)
I often wonder why the gentleman in the article went so quiet after publication .....
As an aston owner, I understand this sentiment, especially in the current climate for classics.
It's such a shame as this is an exciting project, but I do worry about the legal aspect.
My thoughts would be to "glue" the DB5 fiberglass panels on to a modified p1800 body structure and fill the cavities with two-part foam for rigidity. I don't know if you watch any American auto shows on TV in the UK (perhaps on youtube ?) but there was a very interesting body kit in fiberglass used in the creation of a project car called the "Monster Miata"...done by the host of GEARS on the SPEED CHANNEL. (very redneck) A 3M epoxy/glue was used for bare metal to fiberglass bonding.
If Mr. Rogers does not feel comfortable selling completed body shells...perhap sending out the molds to a good fiberglass boat builder...his friend (?) and buying individual body parts from him...or leasing the molds from him and sending them out yourself...that would get him off the hook ? There are way around this... :v Who needs to know of any "personal" monitary transactions anyway. I guess there would need some level of trust established.
I did a quick Google search using, "Can a classic car design be copyrighted ?" it came up with an interesting piece from the Guardian..."An end to faking it: could a new law damage the world of design?" I don't know the if this Bill has passed. But it really seems over-the-top. Sure hope my Invicta submariner style "faux" Rolex doesn't get snatched at the UK customs )
If you could be so kind :x to post his address, email, and/or phone number... perhaps if copies of his creations were not seen driving around in the moors of Scotland...AM would be happier. The wilderness of rural Ontario I guess would be ok for me.
Having thought about this over the years, I wondered why AM didn't sell out and reboot the DB5/6 design...not an exact copy, but kind of like the retro theme that has been popular with most major car companies for the past 5-10 years. eg "new" VW Bug, current retro to 67-69ish Ford Mustang, GM Camaro...very 1969ish, and that's just off the top of my head.
How many 40-60 year old baby boomers who had the Corgi DB5 would lust after a NEW DB5 !!! I'll take mine in silver birch please. It would be a license to print money...IMO. Sheesh...farm out the body to Jaguar, inline 6 from BMW, this would not be rocket science. I would put the button for the sunroof under a flip-up on the shifter knob
When a barnfind DB5 is sold for 200,000 to 300,000 quid (sic?) seems like AM needs to do a little marketing research.
Comments
Grills come up for sale reasonably often and with surround a decent one might come in circa £500 - any replica should really use Aston parts as it would be hugely cost and time prohibitive to remanufacture existing stuff. Lights etc are standard Lucas anyway, door handels are Mk 1 Escort - the body is bit to get right to take the real stuff. Only way to do that succesfully is to take a mould from an original.
Yes, I know that the models are not accurate to 100%
But with some reference parts to take mesaurments from
Like a front windscreen (300£ from supplier I know from
Work).or front or rear lights.
Should hear from the boat company this coming week
About price for scan and cnc the model.
Martin.
Ps. What about " martin's aston" as a name
Love the name!
windscreens available over here £275 - rear lights standard Lucas items repro or original about £60 a side
front and rear bumpers £1200.
I have designed a totally reliable number plate system and have the plans for the machine guns, although its easier to make better ones.
Bags the second body............................
Nick
Gothenburg, since we got to pay toll
(Tax) for drive tru the city this year.
I saw the bumpers on ebay.
Now, if anyone can assit with info regarding DB5 replica builders, please contact me. All the best and I look forward to the comments.
lasvegascarstars.com
Several bond cars?.... Which ones?
And what collectable items?
Are you planning on building a db5 yourself?
So Tiger ( if you dont' mind the bond connection
Do you need a replica? You got the real one.
Take a look at this pictures i found in a swedish building site.
Starting with some plywood and some foam and plaster.
I think you know which ones... we're bringing them with us!
--Brian
How many db5 did they do for the movie?
I know one was stolen.
The BMW 750 is good driving(even without rockets).
Scan and CNC a fullsize aston in foam.
Was about £7.500
Scratch.
DB stands for David Brown! -{
Thanks guys
mafia push over the cliff,isnt a Aston ,its a French car with the appropiate
body bits welded on ,i mean they was never going to sling an Aston of a cliff
if they havnt rusted into dust
I have been thinking about building a DB5 for myself for about two years. I have alway been a car guy...built a 1957 Porsche Speedster in the parents garage in my youth. Currently working on a 1977 Porsche 911 wide body...with a Chevy V8 383. Drive a x-type Jag daily.
I am EXTREMELY interested in this fiberglass DB5 replica and will be continuing to add to this thread...first off, has anyone seen this project first-hand ?
For example, I don't see how EMC gets away with a Vanquish.
I would love to find out more about Mr. Rogers and his creation. After building a Speedster kit, I would really favour GRP panels attached to a modified unibody car...like a Volvo p1800...same wheelbase within 1/2" I believe...easier to get certified, insured, etc. But there are a number of approaches to custom auto construction.
Probably because they haven't sold more than five of them. Despite the claim that "160 of the 200 car run are left", all of the pictures on their site appear to be of the same prototype, with either a second one or some decent photoshop work done to make the single picture of the black car.
They've completely priced themselves out of the game. Which would you buy: a second-hand Vanquish for 60-90K and put gadgets on it for another 10-20, or a mustang kitcar with gadgets for $170K?
The P1800 is an interesting idea - my father has restored plenty of those. At one point we had four of them so he's knowledgeable about the availability of parts and the like.
He still has two P1800s so if I can get one of them next to the DB6 gadget car I've been working on, a re-skin of an 1800 into a DB5 is more feasible than you might expect. The dashboard is completely wrong and would need to be scratchbuilt, but most of the interior fittings like seats and switchgear would make decent budget options for a faux DB5. Apart from the grille and bumpers, most of the exterior parts like light fittings are bog standard available MG-eque parts. The 1800s are really well-sorted vintage GT coupes and, while not nearly as exciting as an Aston Martin, would make for a fun vintage car toy.
--Brian
By acident really, made some friends tru work from the uk
And they helped me. So i mailed him some weeks ago
(Snail mail). No reply yet. But a goooood picture of the
Plug in his front yard. He he looks like the aston going
To sweden
My first reaction to that was that a Vanquish couldn't possibly be had for that little. But looking online, yup, that's the going rate.
I don't know that much about Astons: why is a used Vanquish half the cost of a used DBS?
Since EMC note that you can send them a righthand drive Mustang for conversion, wonder if you couldn't just send them a Vanquish and save a few bucks? (Ya, I know, no room in the engine compartment for all the gadgetry.)
I called the guy
Because aston will probably be on him. And he is still using
The plug.but ...IF. ... He will sell bodies in the future
I'm on the list
Wouldn't be so sure about that. Directly copying someone else's design for your own financial gain could lead anyone to deep and troubled water. Copyright laws are one thing and intellectual property laws are another.
Not using aston badges? Think you're in the clear? Think again;
http://m.leftlanenews.com/mercedes-benz-destroys-illegal-gullwing-replica.html
As for previous comments on it being more cost effective to trick out a real vanquish.... Have you seen under the bonnet of a vanq? To say its cosy in there is an understatement! Add on static guns for car shows maybe, press the button and out pop the guns however... no chance. Nick Finlayson and Andy Smith didn't rip out the V12 for nothing ya know. The toys require masses of space and £10-20k ain't gonna cover the cost of that kinda modding.
Good look with the DB5 replicas though, but I'd rather build my own car from my own design, otherwise it's a bit like a fake watch ain't it?
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I never tgt I'd say this, but good advice Jeff
I once spoke to aston martin about this and the comment was, we're relaxed about almost all the aston design/shapes except the DB5 - which they felt the owners of originals would be of a mind to bring a class action suit to protect their investments. And before anyone laughs, ask yourself how many of said group occupy key roles at the Bar ( no not the shaken not stirred variety)
I often wonder why the gentleman in the article went so quiet after publication .....
As an aston owner, I understand this sentiment, especially in the current climate for classics.
It's such a shame as this is an exciting project, but I do worry about the legal aspect.
Cheers paul
My thoughts would be to "glue" the DB5 fiberglass panels on to a modified p1800 body structure and fill the cavities with two-part foam for rigidity. I don't know if you watch any American auto shows on TV in the UK (perhaps on youtube ?) but there was a very interesting body kit in fiberglass used in the creation of a project car called the "Monster Miata"...done by the host of GEARS on the SPEED CHANNEL. (very redneck) A 3M epoxy/glue was used for bare metal to fiberglass bonding.
If Mr. Rogers does not feel comfortable selling completed body shells...perhap sending out the molds to a good fiberglass boat builder...his friend (?) and buying individual body parts from him...or leasing the molds from him and sending them out yourself...that would get him off the hook ? There are way around this... :v Who needs to know of any "personal" monitary transactions anyway. I guess there would need some level of trust established.
I did a quick Google search using, "Can a classic car design be copyrighted ?" it came up with an interesting piece from the Guardian..."An end to faking it: could a new law damage the world of design?" I don't know the if this Bill has passed. But it really seems over-the-top. Sure hope my Invicta submariner style "faux" Rolex doesn't get snatched at the UK customs
How many 40-60 year old baby boomers who had the Corgi DB5 would lust after a NEW DB5 !!! I'll take mine in silver birch please.
When a barnfind DB5 is sold for 200,000 to 300,000 quid (sic?) seems like AM needs to do a little marketing research.