what was the real Dalton made only two films?

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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    In my point of vew many here romantize his performance - just because he contrasted to Moore's performance so much

    Now here's my point of view. I don't see any romanticizing of Dalton's performance. Instead what I see is that many fans, myself included, enjoyed Dalton's performance because it was interesting, skillful, and completely in keeping with what we feel Bond should be. Although Dalton isn't my favorite Bond, he is the Bond I see in my mind's eye now whenever I read one of Fleming's books. When you pin the so-called "failure" of LTK on audiences just not liking Dalton as Bond, certainly you are entitled to look at certain circumstances and speculate that it could be the reason. But as I believe you have stated, that your reasoned opinion, not a fact. I recall a palpable sense of excitement among me and my Bond-loving friends when LTK was released in the U.S., and we were certainly not disappointed after we viewed the movie (some of us multiple times). We were crushed when Dalton's tenure ended after only two films, and it still strikes me as a seriously missed opportunity.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Bondtoys wrote:
    In my point of vew many here romantize his performance - just because he contrasted to Moore's performance so much

    Now here's my point of view. I don't see any romanticizing of Dalton's performance. Instead what I see is that many fans, myself included, enjoyed Dalton's performance because it was interesting, skillful, and completely in keeping with what we feel Bond should be. Although Dalton isn't my favorite Bond, he is the Bond I see in my mind's eye now whenever I read one of Fleming's books. When you pin the so-called "failure" of LTK on audiences just not liking Dalton as Bond, certainly you are entitled to look at certain circumstances and speculate that it could be the reason. But as I believe you have stated, that your reasoned opinion, not a fact. I recall a palpable sense of excitement among me and my Bond-loving friends when LTK was released in the U.S., and we were certainly not disappointed after we viewed the movie (some of us multiple times). We were crushed when Dalton's tenure ended after only two films, and it still strikes me as a seriously missed opportunity.
    BL, you just gained great face in my eyes. -{

    Ummm......okay?
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  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    As in the main market (USA) Dalton was not accepted well (just google it), it's safe to say, that he was a main factor for the lack of success.

    Ah right. So it is an anti-Dalton rant.

    As for Google, this is what I found ...

    http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2012-11/08/timothy-dalton-the-best-james-bond-007
    Bondtoys wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    Never let the facts get in the way of one's own opinion....

    Well, that obviously applies to you :v

    No, I don't think HowardB is the one doing that.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Ummm......okay?
    Bad attempt at a Japanese colloquialism. 8-)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Ummm......okay?
    Bad attempt at a Japanese colloquialism. 8-)

    You never fail to educate and amuse me, Chris! :))
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  • PolynikesPolynikes U.k.Posts: 276MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    Is it me or does anyone else think mr pinstripe seems a little like mr silhouette?

    I don't know who that is. Nor do I care. I am Colonel Pinstripe. I don't let anyone else speak for me. Come and see me if you have a problem with me. Don't piss over a thread instead.

    Is that some kind of joke or are you really am Internet hard man?
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Polynikes wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    Is it me or does anyone else think mr pinstripe seems a little like mr silhouette?

    I don't know who that is. Nor do I care. I am Colonel Pinstripe. I don't let anyone else speak for me. Come and see me if you have a problem with me. Don't piss over a thread instead.

    Is that some kind of joke or are you really am Internet hard man?

    :)) well Mr Silouette gave a daft little threat of physical violence, as does this noob.

    'Come and see me' indeed... 8-) prick :))
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    'Come and see me' indeed... 8-)


    no, I am sure that was only a synonyme of "meet me in the pub and buy me a pint" :v
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    'Come and see me' indeed... 8-)


    no, I am sure that was only a synonyme of "meet me in the pub and buy me a pint" :v

    Oooh.

    Silly me. Or is he silly? ;)
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  • Colonel PinstripeColonel Pinstripe UKPosts: 52MI6 Agent
    Polynikes wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    Is it me or does anyone else think mr pinstripe seems a little like mr silhouette?

    I don't know who that is. Nor do I care. I am Colonel Pinstripe. I don't let anyone else speak for me. Come and see me if you have a problem with me. Don't piss over a thread instead.

    Is that some kind of joke or are you really am Internet hard man?

    No. I meant PM me if you have a problem with what I have to say.

    God preserve us from idiots.
  • Colonel PinstripeColonel Pinstripe UKPosts: 52MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    Polynikes wrote:

    I don't know who that is. Nor do I care. I am Colonel Pinstripe. I don't let anyone else speak for me. Come and see me if you have a problem with me. Don't piss over a thread instead.

    Is that some kind of joke or are you really am Internet hard man?

    :)) well Mr Silouette gave a daft little threat of physical violence, as does this noob.

    'Come and see me' indeed... 8-) prick :))

    Again the name-calling. How childish. When you can't win an argument reasonably you have to resort to putting people down. How very professional of you. And I'm sick of the comparisons with another member. I am myself, no one else.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    seldom does the tone of voice convey successfully through text alone....

    the 'prick' comment was said laughingly, as in 'daft lad', 'ya silly sod', hence the laughing smiley after it.

    terribly sorry if you took offence to it mr sillouette.

    i guess you misunderstood my comment in the same way I did your 'come and see me' comment. 'come and see me' sounds more like an invitation to a in person get together, not an invite to contact you by pm. it's the kind of thing i'd get on my schoolwork reports. i don't think my teacher was asking for me to contact him via tinterweb though....
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    Polynikes wrote:

    I don't know who that is. Nor do I care. I am Colonel Pinstripe. I don't let anyone else speak for me. Come and see me if you have a problem with me. Don't piss over a thread instead.

    Is that some kind of joke or are you really am Internet hard man?

    No. I meant PM me if you have a problem with what I have to say.

    God preserve us from idiots.

    If I may interject ... it did appear to me to be some sort of 'threat' initially when I first read your post. Posts on a forum often don't come across as intended. You've since explained what you meant which is good. However am I now an idiot for thinking the initial thought too?? Not quite sure there's a need for such anger.

    Anyway time to focus upon the thread now hey? ... ;)
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited June 2013
    minigeff wrote:
    seldom does the tone of voice convey successfully through text alone....

    the 'prick' comment was said laughingly, as in 'daft lad', 'ya silly sod', hence the laughing smiley after it.

    So, would it be ok, that I'll call you "prick" in the future? :D or would you prefer "idiot" :D ?

    BTW Silhouette Man also replied with a load bundle of quotes - anyone else sees a pattern?
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    seldom does the tone of voice convey successfully through text alone....

    the 'prick' comment was said laughingly, as in 'daft lad', 'ya silly sod', hence the laughing smiley after it.

    So, would it be ok, that I'll call you "prick" in the future? :D

    its better than 'microjiff' :))
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I'd prefer MR-cam-guy-to be ;)
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    :)) it's nice to dream isn't it?

    2025
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    ok, then microjiff :p
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    goddamit!!! X-(
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  • Colonel PinstripeColonel Pinstripe UKPosts: 52MI6 Agent
    minigeff quoth:

    "i guess you misunderstood my comment in the same way I did your 'come and see me' comment. 'come and see me' sounds more like an invitation to a in person get together, not an invite to contact you by pm. it's the kind of thing i'd get on my schoolwork reports. i don't think my teacher was asking for me to contact him via tinterweb though...."

    Yes, but in the context of a fan forum, not the school classroom, I should have thought that it was pretty obvious what was meant. Context is key, as they say. And I'm not mr sillouette. I am the Colonel.
  • Colonel PinstripeColonel Pinstripe UKPosts: 52MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    seldom does the tone of voice convey successfully through text alone....

    the 'prick' comment was said laughingly, as in 'daft lad', 'ya silly sod', hence the laughing smiley after it.

    So, would it be ok, that I'll call you "prick" in the future? :D or would you prefer "idiot" :D ?

    BTW Silhouette Man also replied with a load bundle of quotes - anyone else sees a pattern?

    Oh, would you give over. I'm my own person.
  • Colonel PinstripeColonel Pinstripe UKPosts: 52MI6 Agent
    Ens007 wrote:
    Polynikes wrote:

    Is that some kind of joke or are you really am Internet hard man?

    No. I meant PM me if you have a problem with what I have to say.

    God preserve us from idiots.

    If I may interject ... it did appear to me to be some sort of 'threat' initially when I first read your post. Posts on a forum often don't come across as intended. You've since explained what you meant which is good. However am I now an idiot for thinking the initial thought too?? Not quite sure there's a need for such anger.

    Anyway time to focus upon the thread now hey? ... ;)

    You have permission to interject, sir.

    You are right that posts often don't come across as intended. This thread surely pays testament to that notion.

    Sorry to have been unclear there, but I think I have clarifies what I meant there. Calling someone a "prick" however isn't terribly nice or flattering. But I've come to expect little else from mr mini.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    You have permission to interject, sir.

    I love this kind of talk. I imagine people to be wearing silk dressing gowns and smoking pipes whilst swirling a goblet of brandy around.

    :)) daft sod.
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  • Colonel PinstripeColonel Pinstripe UKPosts: 52MI6 Agent
    I was actually being ironic there with such archaic language. It seems I bamboozled you into believing I meant it. I'm not the pretentious old codger you paint me on here, mr mini.
  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    I was actually being ironic there with such archaic language. It seems I bamboozled you into believing I meant it. I'm not the pretentious old codger you paint me on here, mr mini.

    Archaic language?? I (politely) tried to make what was believed to be a valid point - would you rather I had been blunt & obtuse in my post, perhaps littering it with profanity??

    My sincere thanks for allowing me to offer my thoughts ... 8-)
  • Colonel PinstripeColonel Pinstripe UKPosts: 52MI6 Agent
    Ens007 wrote:
    I was actually being ironic there with such archaic language. It seems I bamboozled you into believing I meant it. I'm not the pretentious old codger you paint me on here, mr mini.

    Archaic language?? I (politely) tried to make what was believed to be a valid point - would you rather I had been blunt & obtuse in my post, perhaps littering it with profanity??

    My sincere thanks for allowing me to offer my thoughts ... 8-)

    No, no. You misunderstand. I wasn't referring to you or your use of language but my own as mr mini here suggested that it was rather archaic and it was, rather deliberately so.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Excuse me, but what does any of this have to do with Mr. Dalton's two Bond films? I'm afraid we're on the verge of another thread being closed. :(|
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    Excuse me, but what does any of this have to do with Mr. Dalton's two Bond films? I'm afraid we're on the verge of another thread being closed. :(|

    Absolutely spot on Sir!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    I'm afraid we're on the verge of another thread being closed. :(|

    Indeed. Can we keep on topic in THIS one, please?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    -{ Agreed,could we keep the argument to one thread.
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