You Tube Blue Pencil Review of Cold/Cold Fall (1996) by John Gardner

Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
edited February 2013 in James Bond Literature
The latest Blue Pencil Review of John Gardner's Cold/Cold Fall (1996)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNIY2vhB2dw

The reviewer says near the end that General Brutus Clay would have been happy to serve as merely Secretary of State for Defence under President Clinton (who he'd be happy to serve under and allow to remain in place) - I can't say that I remember this scene from the novel - is he right? If he is, this is admittedly rather weird!
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
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  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 3,598MI6 Agent
    I switched this off after 1:12. The guy is drunk. He uses expletives three times as if that is reasoned critical debate and merely picks holes in the novel's plausibility - no mention of character, place, time, atmosphere, tension - it's as if the guy wasn't even reading the book. Hopeless. Bin it.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    The Bloke is pissed as a Ferret.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    chrisno1 wrote:
    I switched this off after 1:12. The guy is drunk. He uses expletives three times as if that is reasoned critical debate and merely picks holes in the novel's plausibility - no mention of character, place, time, atmosphere, tension - it's as if the guy wasn't even reading the book. Hopeless. Bin it.

    Yes, never thought of him as drunk, just a typical English idiot - but now you mention it - THAT MAKES SENSE!

    It probably explains a lot about these reviews - they are crude and have little serious bearing on the work at hand.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    So does General Brutus Clay only want to be the Defence Secretary in the Clinton Government or not or is this just the ramblings of a drunken bore? :s
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    I think the whole book are the ramblings of a drunk...it would explain a lot !
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    I think the whole book are the ramblings of a drunk...it would explain a lot !

    No, sir. JG never touched a drop of the liquid falling down medicine after 1959 - see his book Spin the Bottle. He was a recovering alcoholic, of course.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    I think the whole book are the ramblings of a drunk...it would explain a lot !

    No, sir. JG never touched a drop of the liquid falling down medicine after 1959 - see his book Spin the Bottle. He was a recovering alcoholic, of course.

    If that's the quality he churned out...he would have been better off with a drink or two...certainly drove me too it after reading the last couple...
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    edited December 2018
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    I think the whole book are the ramblings of a drunk...it would explain a lot !

    No, sir. JG never touched a drop of the liquid falling down medicine after 1959 - see his book Spin the Bottle. He was a recovering alcoholic, of course.

    If that's the quality he churned out...he would have been better off with a drink or two...certainly drove me too it after reading the last couple...

    No, one drink would have started it all off again - don't touch the stuff myself!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    S'funny....you were offering a beer in another thread :s
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    edited December 2018
    Sir Miles wrote:
    S'funny....you were offering a beer in another thread :s

    There's a mile of difference between a virtual beer and a real beer, my old mucker!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Really ? Well fancy that 8-)
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    edited February 2013
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Really ? Well fancy that 8-)

    Bottoms up. -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    No...I'm sat down.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    No...I'm sat down.

    It's like that James song, isn't it? :))
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    The Bloke is pissed as a Ferret.

    Didn't know they imbibed...still!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    No...I'm sat down.

    It's like that James song, isn't it? :))

    Christ, I hope not...James are **** X-(
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    No...I'm sat down.

    It's like that James song, isn't it? :))

    Christ, I hope not...James are **** X-(

    Siddounnextameeee! :))
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Er...no thanks. :v
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Er...no thanks. :v

    Please yourself, then. I've got a camp bed!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Er...no thanks. :v

    Please yourself, then. I've got a camp bed!

    Why am I not surprised.... 8-)
    YNWA 97
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Er...no thanks. :v

    Please yourself, then. I've got a camp bed!

    Why am I not surprised.... 8-)

    It's gonna be a long night! :D
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Please yourself, then. I've got a camp bed!

    Why am I not surprised.... 8-)

    It's gonna be a long night! :D

    Nah...I'll ban you soon ;)
    YNWA 97
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Why am I not surprised.... 8-)

    It's gonna be a long night! :D

    Nah...I'll ban you soon ;)

    No! Not again...that happened me on CBn! :(
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:

    It's gonna be a long night! :D

    Nah...I'll ban you soon ;)

    No! Not again...that happened me on CBn! :(

    I can see why :v
    YNWA 97
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Nah...I'll ban you soon ;)

    No! Not again...that happened me on CBn! :(

    I can see why :v

    You can? Little old me? I think it was my enthusiasm for the Literary Bond that really left them COLD (pun intended).
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    And not just the literary section either 8-)
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    And not just the literary section either 8-)

    By which you mean... :s
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    And not just the literary section either 8-)

    By which you mean... :s

    I wonder 8-)

    Now...back on topic...
    YNWA 97
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    And not just the literary section either 8-)

    By which you mean... :s

    I wonder 8-)

    Now...back on topic...

    I'm all for that - plan to review this one next!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Good luck B-)
    YNWA 97
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