Yeah. Just reckon DC might have been advised better by his ££££/$$$s advisers than a Bond website poster's knowledge?
Could be wrong though, as you seem to believe?
ok, let me rephrase it, i have used products that have worked better for me personally then NO-Xplode and Cellmass. i apologize, didnt mean to make it seem like i know better then DC about what supplements to pick.
No probs.
And, of course, as should be emphasised to all the nutcases aiming for the "perfect DC body", age, lifestyle and available time, body type and mass, AS WELL as the support £££/$$$s team behind you, are extremely signtificant!
Don't want anyone being delusional, expecting goals they just cannot achieve. Nor, perish the thought, killing themlselves
My experience so far echos a lot of the comments above. When I wanted to get in shape I talked to a friend of mine who runs a cross fit gym, and he told me 70% of the look I was trying to achieve would cone from sticking to a 'good' diet ( lots of meat and greens, little or no bread, pasta or beer, very low sugar intake ), 20% would come from working out, and 10% would be down to genetics. The first month involved a lot of cardio in order to get body fat down to the 10% area that you need to show good ab definition, then after that its much more emphasis on weights and body weight work. The best piece of equipment I own is the pull up bar that you can hang in the doorway, which doubles as a base for various push ups and dips, and it only cost 20 bucks. One good online resource is Rusty Moore's 'Visual Impact Muscle Building'. You pay for online book downloads and he sends regular updates and tips. His whole philosiphy is about achieving what he calls the lean Hollywood look with 'tight' muscles, not big puffy body builder type mass - he often cites DC as an example. Also looking forward to seeing Mantis' new series on this on his site.
Used to box a bit and play a lot of rugby. Now at nearly 40 I just try to stay as fit as I can for as long as I can. I train in my garage. I have a power rack with a high and low pulley. Also a vertical leg press and about 300 kg of free weights. I have a dip bar attachment for the rack and a pull up bar. I do a 3 way split routine. Run 4 miles on the fifth day and then have a day off. Just added photo taken yesterday as there is nobody will take any notice of someone offering fitness tips if they're a wreck! For me personally the oy supplements I use and would recommend are. Fish oil and whey protein of any description! This year I need to eat less sugar and bin the cheeky smokes when I'm out on the piss. I like threads like this they're inspiring.... Especially stories like returningson's!
Used to box a bit and play a lot of rugby. Now at nearly 40 I just try to stay as fit as I can for as long as I can. I train in my garage. I have a power rack with a high and low pulley. Also a vertical leg press and about 300 kg of free weights. I have a dip bar attachment for the rack and a pull up bar. I do a 3 way split routine. Run 4 miles on the fifth day and then have a day off. Just added photo taken yesterday as there is nobody will take any notice of someone offering fitness tips if they're a wreck! For me personally the oy supplements I use and would recommend are. Fish oil and whey protein of any description! This year I need to eat less sugar and bin the cheeky smokes when I'm out on the piss. I like threads like this they're inspiring.... Especially stories like returningson's!
Impressive! and i agree that fish oil and whey are great supplements to use. whats your diet like?
I just wanted to add to the congratulations to returningson. A fantastic achievement.
I come from a very unhealthy family; my dad was 300 pounds when he was my age. We ate huge portions of food, lots of takeout, always had lots of dessert, and stayed in and watched TV from the time we got home from school/work until the time we went to bed. And we never played sports or were physically active. When I was 16 I was 145 pounds (5'9") but even at that weight I had a bit of a gut and a huge ass - and not an ounce of muscle. Thank god I had a teenage metabolism to counteract everything else.
When I was 17 we moved into an apartment building with a gym room. I tried working out there three nights a week for a year and although I got a little bit stronger I didn't see much physical change. But then my cousin visited, and this was on break from university where he was studying to become a gym teacher. He gave me a lot of guidance and after that I was able to lose the gut, the butt, and add 40 pounds (!) of muscle.
Because I knew that if I could make that change just about anyone could, I became a personal trainer to help people achieve what I could. I still train people part-time; every week I meet people who say that they are a prisoner of their genetics or schedules or age. It simply isn't true, like anything in life you must have a plan and it must be personal to you (think of trying to get a finance degree if you take all the philosophy courses that a friend did). No one's body is immune to science, but it has to be the *right* science for them. And then once they have the plan they MUST follow it :-)
Depending on whether I'm in maintenance mode or needing to improve something (such as coming back from an injury) I do either 3 or 4 one hour workouts a week. I don't use any supplements other than protein powder as it's difficult for me to get the minimum 100 grams of protein a day from food. A general rule about supplements is that they work best for people who need that tiny little edge to push them from great to exceptional. They won't turn a 145 pound 16 year old like I was into Daniel Craig, that comes from the work. A couple of the trainers that I work with use NO-Xplode and have had really good results from it but they're operating at a really high level where every little bit helps.
Don't normally go for threads like these as they are usually full of competitive idiots who think they are arnie, or worse, just better than everyone else.
But have to say this thread is impressive (mostly).
Returningson, amazing accomplishment... I doff my cap in awe... And seems you've considered all the angles... Especially the Post-diet health.... The body isn't designed for bungee-weight changes.... Especially the heart, so losing quite so much needs to be (as you say ) when you're younger and take care afterwards. Gyms are great but you don't need one of you apply yourself properly. You are an objective lesson to all of us. -{
As regards scoffer, ignore him. He probably didn't mean anything but if he did it's irrelevant.
I was particularly interested in the supplement advice wp99, and your opinion (that there are better/cheaper products than DC's choice) is just that- an opinion! I take supplements and am a massive fan.... I box 2hrs and was finding my wrists were hurting a lot... The supplements I take now have strengthened the joints and improved flexibility to the point that I feel little now and am punching much much harder.
But I suspect it's all personal and some won't work for me or others... Hence hearing what works for you and others on here is particularly useful. I was also shocked to hear that some can wreck organs... Good warning...
Finally, for me it's all about motive. I work out 7hrs a week cos 2 yrs ago my mother died and over the 3 mths caring for her I put on 45lbs. After her death I vowed to get rid of it before my 53rd birthday which is in 6 mths.
I'm now down to 201lbs having lost abt 50lbs, and am stronger and fitter than I've ever been.
But I did (do) it for me.... I don't post pics of my abs or shoulders, I don't lecture others and I don't look down on those who for whatever reason arn't perfect.
The only competition is with yourself.... If you beat your own targets and objectives then that's what it's all about.
There are no prizes or accolades (apart from genuine well meaning congrats from fellow travelers when your efforts are clearly visible - oh and the odd compliment from the opposite sex )
But there is the satisfaction of knowing only you could have done it.
I just wanted to add to the congratulations to returningson. A fantastic achievement.
I come from a very unhealthy family; my dad was 300 pounds when he was my age. We ate huge portions of food, lots of takeout, always had lots of dessert, and stayed in and watched TV from the time we got home from school/work until the time we went to bed. And we never played sports or were physically active. When I was 16 I was 145 pounds (5'9") but even at that weight I had a bit of a gut and a huge ass - and not an ounce of muscle. Thank god I had a teenage metabolism to counteract everything else.
When I was 17 we moved into an apartment building with a gym room. I tried working out there three nights a week for a year and although I got a little bit stronger I didn't see much physical change. But then my cousin visited, and this was on break from university where he was studying to become a gym teacher. He gave me a lot of guidance and after that I was able to lose the gut, the butt, and add 40 pounds (!) of muscle.
Because I knew that if I could make that change just about anyone could, I became a personal trainer to help people achieve what I could. I still train people part-time; every week I meet people who say that they are a prisoner of their genetics or schedules or age. It simply isn't true, like anything in life you must have a plan and it must be personal to you (think of trying to get a finance degree if you take all the philosophy courses that a friend did). No one's body is immune to science, but it has to be the *right* science for them. And then once they have the plan they MUST follow it :-)
Depending on whether I'm in maintenance mode or needing to improve something (such as coming back from an injury) I do either 3 or 4 one hour workouts a week. I don't use any supplements other than protein powder as it's difficult for me to get the minimum 100 grams of protein a day from food. A general rule about supplements is that they work best for people who need that tiny little edge to push them from great to exceptional. They won't turn a 145 pound 16 year old like I was into Daniel Craig, that comes from the work. A couple of the trainers that I work with use NO-Xplode and have had really good results from it but they're operating at a really high level where every little bit helps.
thanks alot for sharing this and congrats on improving your self physically! im sure your personal trainer knowledge could certainly come in handy here.
Returningson, amazing work and good for you...I started a dedicated journey when I was 41 to get out of the "corporate executive atrophied body type" and work toward a more Bond-like body...mind you I say work toward because I know I will never have the body of Daniel Craig...but I do improve each year (as some of you have seen) and as long as I keep on this trend I don't mind the sacrifices and the 4:30 AM wake up calls....I always include the picture when I was 32 to remind myself that at 45 I can look better than I did at 32...
And David S., love the handicapping idea....!!!
BTW, the below pic was taken at the end of the summer when I had upped my protein to a crazy level and more mass was put on...starting that regiment again next week....
Don't normally go for threads like these as they are usually full of competitive idiots who think they are arnie, or worse, just better than everyone else.
But have to say this thread is impressive (mostly).
Returningson, amazing accomplishment... I doff my cap in awe... And seems you've considered all the angles... Especially the Post-diet health.... The body isn't designed for bungee-weight changes.... Especially the heart, so losing quite so much needs to be (as you say ) when you're younger and take care afterwards. Gyms are great but you don't need one of you apply yourself properly. You are an objective lesson to all of us. -{
As regards scoffer, ignore him. He probably didn't mean anything but if he did it's irrelevant.
I was particularly interested in the supplement advice wp99, and your opinion (that there are better/cheaper products than DC's choice) is just that- an opinion! I take supplements and am a massive fan.... I box 2hrs and was finding my wrists were hurting a lot... The supplements I take now have strengthened the joints and improved flexibility to the point that I feel little now and am punching much much harder.
But I suspect it's all personal and some won't work for me or others... Hence hearing what works for you and others on here is particularly useful. I was also shocked to hear that some can wreck organs... Good warning...
Finally, for me it's all about motive. I work out 7hrs a week cos 2 yrs ago my mother died and over the 3 mths caring for her I put on 45lbs. After her death I vowed to get rid of it before my 53rd birthday which is in 6 mths.
I'm now down to 201lbs having lost abt 50lbs, and am stronger and fitter than I've ever been.
But I did (do) it for me.... I don't post pics of my abs or shoulders, I don't lecture others and I don't look down on those who for whatever reason arn't perfect.
The only competition is with yourself.... If you beat your own targets and objectives then that's what it's all about.
There are no prizes or accolades (apart from genuine well meaning congrats from fellow travelers when your efforts are clearly visible - oh and the odd compliment from the opposite sex )
But there is the satisfaction of knowing only you could have done it.
Cheers paul
congrats on losing 50 Ibs! whats your goal weight? and im glad you mentioned how alot of threads like this are filled with "competitive idiots" because i definitely dont want that, but rather a place for guidance, and positive reinforcement for those to reach their physical goals because it can be daunting at times.
Don't normally go for threads like these as they are usually full of competitive idiots who think they are arnie, or worse, just better than everyone else.
But have to say this thread is impressive (mostly).
Returningson, amazing accomplishment... I doff my cap in awe... And seems you've considered all the angles... Especially the Post-diet health.... The body isn't designed for bungee-weight changes.... Especially the heart, so losing quite so much needs to be (as you say ) when you're younger and take care afterwards. Gyms are great but you don't need one of you apply yourself properly. You are an objective lesson to all of us. -{
As regards scoffer, ignore him. He probably didn't mean anything but if he did it's irrelevant.
I was particularly interested in the supplement advice wp99, and your opinion (that there are better/cheaper products than DC's choice) is just that- an opinion! I take supplements and am a massive fan.... I box 2hrs and was finding my wrists were hurting a lot... The supplements I take now have strengthened the joints and improved flexibility to the point that I feel little now and am punching much much harder.
But I suspect it's all personal and some won't work for me or others... Hence hearing what works for you and others on here is particularly useful. I was also shocked to hear that some can wreck organs... Good warning...
Finally, for me it's all about motive. I work out 7hrs a week cos 2 yrs ago my mother died and over the 3 mths caring for her I put on 45lbs. After her death I vowed to get rid of it before my 53rd birthday which is in 6 mths.
I'm now down to 201lbs having lost abt 50lbs, and am stronger and fitter than I've ever been.
But I did (do) it for me.... I don't post pics of my abs or shoulders, I don't lecture others and I don't look down on those who for whatever reason arn't perfect.
The only competition is with yourself.... If you beat your own targets and objectives then that's what it's all about.
There are no prizes or accolades (apart from genuine well meaning congrats from fellow travelers when your efforts are clearly visible - oh and the odd compliment from the opposite sex )
But there is the satisfaction of knowing only you could have done it.
Cheers paul
congrats on losing 50 Ibs! whats your goal weight? and im glad you mentioned how alot of threads like this are filled with "competitive idiots" because i definitely dont want that, but rather a place for guidance, and positive reinforcement for those to reach their physical goals because it can be daunting at times.
Cheers.... I'm aiming for just under 200lbs - and swapping fat for muscle. So main aim now is the tummy - tyre deflating is the true target.
I'm 6th and heavy boned so don't think much below 190 is possible or smart.
And as I said, it's the advice/tips/experiences that I and most others will be after from this thread and you're already making a lot of progress.. Keep it up.
Returningson, amazing work and good for you...I started a dedicated journey when I was 41 to get out of the "corporate executive atrophied body type" and work toward a more Bond-like body...mind you I say work toward because I know I will never have the body of Daniel Craig...but I do improve each year (as some of you have seen) and as long as I keep on this trend I don't mind the sacrifices and the 4:30 AM wake up calls....I always include the picture when I was 32 to remind myself that at 45 I can look better than I did at 32...
And David S., love the handicapping idea....!!!
BTW, the below pic was taken at the end of the summer when I had upped my protein to a crazy level and more mass was put on...starting that regiment again next week....
As i told you on FB already, great turn around! you can immediately see the differences between the youngest pic and the current one, your face looks more defined and your arms are obviously bigger. whats your diet like?
I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet. I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight, forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc
Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down
I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet. I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight, forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc
Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down
so your current goal is to up your protein intake and cardio?
I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet. I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight, forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc
Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down
Welshboy, there is also the fact that not all protein is equal. Proteins have a bioavailability factor - think of it as somewhat similar to the glycemic index for carbs. For example, when you cook chicken - because no one eats chicken raw - you can destroy up to 40% of the protein in it. So depending on the labels of the food we eat - does it specify cooked or uncooked protein content? - many of us get even LESS protein than we think (one of the reasons why people plateau and then they think they've just reached some sort of natural limit that they have). However, an egg has 100% bioavailability - not matter how you cook it you get all 7 grams of protein (in a large egg).
Regarding getting body fat down cardio is not the most effective way. An average size man will burn roughly 100 calories when he runs a mile. But if you add 2 pounds of muscle to your body your metabolism increases so you will burn an extra 100 calories every day - just from having that extra two pounds of muscle. And that's whether you go to the gym or not, and not counting the exercises that you do with that muscle. If you feel that you're fine with where you are for muscle development then obviously that will change what you want to do, but 2 pounds of muscle takes up so little physical space I doubt you'd really see it.
I agree about the cardio. I used to run at least every other day sometimes as far as 8 miles. I was 16 stone then. I had decent cv fitness but I found that it made me incredibly hungry and my calorie intake rocketed yo the extent that I must have been eating st least as much as I was burning thus no weight loss. Everybody's different and there are a lot of contrasting theories out there but I find lifting weights to be the best way to stay in shape for me . That being said I have never binned running it is still my favourite cv activity. Another issue I had when I ran frequently was tendon problems with my knees. It's a high impact activity especially if you're heavy! When I cut a bit of weight and reduced the frequency of the runs my knees got healthy again.
Returningson, amazing work and good for you...I started a dedicated journey when I was 41 to get out of the "corporate executive atrophied body type" and work toward a more Bond-like body...mind you I say work toward because I know I will never have the body of Daniel Craig...but I do improve each year (as some of you have seen) and as long as I keep on this trend I don't mind the sacrifices and the 4:30 AM wake up calls....I always include the picture when I was 32 to remind myself that at 45 I can look better than I did at 32...
And David S., love the handicapping idea....!!!
BTW, the below pic was taken at the end of the summer when I had upped my protein to a crazy level and more mass was put on...starting that regiment again next week....
Great montage most of us have been heading in the opposite direction since 32! Solid measurable progress. I'd never thought of doing the photo thing before but it is a great idea. The camera rarely lies after all.
Great thread and I'm impressed by the fantastic achievements here!
It's interesting to note how many of us have been inspired to get into shape by our love of Bond (and wanting to be like him). DC's more athletic, chiselled look certainly raised the bar.
I came from a non-sporty family and it's a struggle to start, but once you do and see results, it's addictive. I'm 48 and really only started to get fit in my mid 40s, but it can be done - whatever age you are.
I started running and still enjoy it but last summer swapped to a Boot Camp once a week. Those ex-military guys really push you and the weight loss and increased strength gains are impressive. I really recommend it, and they're springing up everywhere now.
I've also been practising ju-Jitsu for 4or 5 years and love it. It's a constant challenge and also helps with fitness, strength and general confidence. Finally I go to the gym once a week and also use free weights at home once or twice a week. I only take whey protein after a gym session but try to eat healthily... Though like a good drink once or twice week so 'could do better'.
My one piece of advice - for what it's worth - is to cut out bread as much as possible. Bread is the enemy.
I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet. I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight, forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc
Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down
so your current goal is to up your protein intake and cardio?
Yup. Reducing carbs with early morning cardio usually results in quick fat loss for me as im already muscular though not as big as usual. Ideally I would like to maintain my current muscle (maybe add a little in lacking areas such as traps, calves) however get my fat down
Don't normally go for threads like these as they are usually full of competitive idiots who think they are arnie, or worse, just better than everyone else.
But have to say this thread is impressive (mostly).
Returningson, amazing accomplishment... I doff my cap in awe... And seems you've considered all the angles... Especially the Post-diet health.... The body isn't designed for bungee-weight changes.... Especially the heart, so losing quite so much needs to be (as you say ) when you're younger and take care afterwards. Gyms are great but you don't need one of you apply yourself properly. You are an objective lesson to all of us. -{
As regards scoffer, ignore him. He probably didn't mean anything but if he did it's irrelevant.
I was particularly interested in the supplement advice wp99, and your opinion (that there are better/cheaper products than DC's choice) is just that- an opinion! I take supplements and am a massive fan.... I box 2hrs and was finding my wrists were hurting a lot... The supplements I take now have strengthened the joints and improved flexibility to the point that I feel little now and am punching much much harder.
But I suspect it's all personal and some won't work for me or others... Hence hearing what works for you and others on here is particularly useful. I was also shocked to hear that some can wreck organs... Good warning...
Finally, for me it's all about motive. I work out 7hrs a week cos 2 yrs ago my mother died and over the 3 mths caring for her I put on 45lbs. After her death I vowed to get rid of it before my 53rd birthday which is in 6 mths.
I'm now down to 201lbs having lost abt 50lbs, and am stronger and fitter than I've ever been.
But I did (do) it for me.... I don't post pics of my abs or shoulders, I don't lecture others and I don't look down on those who for whatever reason arn't perfect.
The only competition is with yourself.... If you beat your own targets and objectives then that's what it's all about.
There are no prizes or accolades (apart from genuine well meaning congrats from fellow travelers when your efforts are clearly visible - oh and the odd compliment from the opposite sex )
But there is the satisfaction of knowing only you could have done it.
Cheers paul
Cheers for your comments on my opinion, Paul, which were directed at Waltherp99 views, which he subsequently qualified and explained, and not toward Returningson to whom we all, me included, have been extremely complementary.
Still, good to hear about your own motivations and routines and achievements.
Is it me, or is this thread becoming more an more like THE EXPENDABLES as we contribute our tales?
I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet. I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight, forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc
Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down
Welshboy, there is also the fact that not all protein is equal. Proteins have a bioavailability factor - think of it as somewhat similar to the glycemic index for carbs. For example, when you cook chicken - because no one eats chicken raw - you can destroy up to 40% of the protein in it. So depending on the labels of the food we eat - does it specify cooked or uncooked protein content? - many of us get even LESS protein than we think (one of the reasons why people plateau and then they think they've just reached some sort of natural limit that they have). However, an egg has 100% bioavailability - not matter how you cook it you get all 7 grams of protein (in a large egg).
Regarding getting body fat down cardio is not the most effective way. An average size man will burn roughly 100 calories when he runs a mile. But if you add 2 pounds of muscle to your body your metabolism increases so you will burn an extra 100 calories every day - just from having that extra two pounds of muscle. And that's whether you go to the gym or not, and not counting the exercises that you do with that muscle. If you feel that you're fine with where you are for muscle development then obviously that will change what you want to do, but 2 pounds of muscle takes up so little physical space I doubt you'd really see it.
Just my two cents...
I hear you, eggs are the food of gods!! I have boiled eggs or scrambled everyday for breakfast as a bit like Fleming it is one of my fave foods. Always have eggs in the fridge
I dont want too much more muscle, just top myself up a little from being in a slump from Xmas. After 10 years on and off of pumping iron I have pretty good muscle memory. I have reduced the weights in my weight workouts (usually lift heavy) and upped the reps with less break between sets, run every other day etc
I know a few members on this site who are into weight lifting/exercising (Mantis/VinnyMac) like myself, and was curious as to who else here is into it? and we could perhaps share our routines, knowledge and progress/goals. How many of you wear your PTI jacket to the gym now? i certainly do, but not during the actual work out, its much too hot for that. And I put this in the clothing section because we buy Bond's clothes because he looks good in them and want to look as good as him.
Im a civilian working out in a military gym in the Falklands on a military base!! If the PTI saw me wearing the PTI jacket the **** would hit the fan . They would prob find it disrespectful or fall over laughing!
I was 320lbs and 6ft1, 12 months ago I started a strict diet of low carb, high protein and daily cardio with weights. I got to 250 in October last year, and then I saw Skyfall... I can categorically confirm that the movie upped my game massively. In 3 short months, due to seeing the movie, buying the clothes, listening to the soundtrack I'm now 200lbs and counting, I even did a half marathon! I had pretty much plateaued prior to Skyfall. So I hold a debt of gratitude to Eon film productions! I can even fit into the tokito lodge jacket size L now! All I have been taking supplement wise is just milk protein. So not only did this film become the greatest selling movie in UK history, it sounds like it helped out a lot of us guys too!
I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet. I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight, forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc
Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down
Welshboy, there is also the fact that not all protein is equal. Proteins have a bioavailability factor - think of it as somewhat similar to the glycemic index for carbs. For example, when you cook chicken - because no one eats chicken raw - you can destroy up to 40% of the protein in it. So depending on the labels of the food we eat - does it specify cooked or uncooked protein content? - many of us get even LESS protein than we think (one of the reasons why people plateau and then they think they've just reached some sort of natural limit that they have). However, an egg has 100% bioavailability - not matter how you cook it you get all 7 grams of protein (in a large egg).
Regarding getting body fat down cardio is not the most effective way. An average size man will burn roughly 100 calories when he runs a mile. But if you add 2 pounds of muscle to your body your metabolism increases so you will burn an extra 100 calories every day - just from having that extra two pounds of muscle. And that's whether you go to the gym or not, and not counting the exercises that you do with that muscle. If you feel that you're fine with where you are for muscle development then obviously that will change what you want to do, but 2 pounds of muscle takes up so little physical space I doubt you'd really see it.
Just my two cents...
Some very good points in here well made -{
If losing body fat is your aim, upping the resistance training in your routine is the way to go IMO. There's two schools of thought on the cardio front ... High intensity intervals or low intensity steady state. I'd go the HIT route myself as its over with quicker!, but each to their own with this so long as it works.
Carbs are not the enemy. Try to stick to wholemeal versions of rice / pasta, sweet potato or leafy green vegetables and where possible knock bread on the head. The best advice I was ever given was to eat darker lean meats early, getting lighter through the day. Try to get some sources of good fats in your diet ASAP (such as EVOOil, avocado etc), as these will help the body rid the bad fats.
Supplement wise I'd say get the best fish oil you can afford, check the protein content of your whey supplement supplier as its often padded out with other things such as soy, get BCAA's in (taste like filth) & possibly something like flaxseed too. I'd aim to achieve a higher protein intake initially (say 2.5/3g per kilo of bodyweight).
It's great to hear some of the success stories that have been achieved. Keep up the good work gang!!
I was 320lbs and 6ft1, 12 months ago I started a strict diet of low carb, high protein and daily cardio with weights. I got to 250 in October last year, and then I saw Skyfall... I can categorically confirm that the movie upped my game massively. In 3 short months, due to seeing the movie, buying the clothes, listening to the soundtrack I'm now 200lbs and counting, I even did a half marathon! I had pretty much plateaued prior to Skyfall. So I hold a debt of gratitude to Eon film productions! I can even fit into the tokito lodge jacket size L now! All I have been taking supplement wise is just milk protein. So not only did this film become the greatest selling movie in UK history, it sounds like it helped out a lot of us guys too!
you lost 120 pounds? thats an incredible achievement! well done, do you have a goal weight? and what are your fav tracks from the soundtrack to work out too? i recommend you add this unreleased track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY-8IwWdtdI
It's funny how things change...when I was a kid in the late 70s Connery was seen as being in exceptional shape. When he takes his shirt off in Dr No all the guys my age were praying we'd look that good when we grew up!
Then when I was a teen in the 80s Stallone and Arnie were huge stars and almost every guy wanted to be HUGE. Unfortunately because there's so much bad info out there I don't know any of my peers who managed to do it. That's the funny thing about exercise; the stuff that really works seems ridiculous at first (until you understand the science behind it) and the stuff that *seems* like it should work doesn't.
Anyway, Craig seems to have hit the happy medium between being cut and lean and very muscular (as has Jason Statham now, he leaned out a lot after the first Transporter movie). But it is funny to think that when I was a kid THIS is the kind of shape that seemed to epitomize "big and strong":
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Not forgetting their base genetics too.
Completely agree with what you've said here.
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Used to box a bit and play a lot of rugby. Now at nearly 40 I just try to stay as fit as I can for as long as I can. I train in my garage. I have a power rack with a high and low pulley. Also a vertical leg press and about 300 kg of free weights. I have a dip bar attachment for the rack and a pull up bar. I do a 3 way split routine. Run 4 miles on the fifth day and then have a day off. Just added photo taken yesterday as there is nobody will take any notice of someone offering fitness tips if they're a wreck! For me personally the oy supplements I use and would recommend are. Fish oil and whey protein of any description! This year I need to eat less sugar and bin the cheeky smokes when I'm out on the piss. I like threads like this they're inspiring.... Especially stories like returningson's!
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WOW! That's one of the greatest transformations that I've seen. +1000 to your health -{
I come from a very unhealthy family; my dad was 300 pounds when he was my age. We ate huge portions of food, lots of takeout, always had lots of dessert, and stayed in and watched TV from the time we got home from school/work until the time we went to bed. And we never played sports or were physically active. When I was 16 I was 145 pounds (5'9") but even at that weight I had a bit of a gut and a huge ass - and not an ounce of muscle. Thank god I had a teenage metabolism to counteract everything else.
When I was 17 we moved into an apartment building with a gym room. I tried working out there three nights a week for a year and although I got a little bit stronger I didn't see much physical change. But then my cousin visited, and this was on break from university where he was studying to become a gym teacher. He gave me a lot of guidance and after that I was able to lose the gut, the butt, and add 40 pounds (!) of muscle.
Because I knew that if I could make that change just about anyone could, I became a personal trainer to help people achieve what I could. I still train people part-time; every week I meet people who say that they are a prisoner of their genetics or schedules or age. It simply isn't true, like anything in life you must have a plan and it must be personal to you (think of trying to get a finance degree if you take all the philosophy courses that a friend did). No one's body is immune to science, but it has to be the *right* science for them. And then once they have the plan they MUST follow it :-)
Depending on whether I'm in maintenance mode or needing to improve something (such as coming back from an injury) I do either 3 or 4 one hour workouts a week. I don't use any supplements other than protein powder as it's difficult for me to get the minimum 100 grams of protein a day from food. A general rule about supplements is that they work best for people who need that tiny little edge to push them from great to exceptional. They won't turn a 145 pound 16 year old like I was into Daniel Craig, that comes from the work. A couple of the trainers that I work with use NO-Xplode and have had really good results from it but they're operating at a really high level where every little bit helps.
But have to say this thread is impressive (mostly).
Returningson, amazing accomplishment... I doff my cap in awe... And seems you've considered all the angles... Especially the Post-diet health.... The body isn't designed for bungee-weight changes.... Especially the heart, so losing quite so much needs to be (as you say ) when you're younger and take care afterwards. Gyms are great but you don't need one of you apply yourself properly. You are an objective lesson to all of us. -{
As regards scoffer, ignore him. He probably didn't mean anything but if he did it's irrelevant.
I was particularly interested in the supplement advice wp99, and your opinion (that there are better/cheaper products than DC's choice) is just that- an opinion! I take supplements and am a massive fan.... I box 2hrs and was finding my wrists were hurting a lot... The supplements I take now have strengthened the joints and improved flexibility to the point that I feel little now and am punching much much harder.
But I suspect it's all personal and some won't work for me or others... Hence hearing what works for you and others on here is particularly useful. I was also shocked to hear that some can wreck organs... Good warning...
Finally, for me it's all about motive. I work out 7hrs a week cos 2 yrs ago my mother died and over the 3 mths caring for her I put on 45lbs. After her death I vowed to get rid of it before my 53rd birthday which is in 6 mths.
I'm now down to 201lbs having lost abt 50lbs, and am stronger and fitter than I've ever been.
But I did (do) it for me.... I don't post pics of my abs or shoulders, I don't lecture others and I don't look down on those who for whatever reason arn't perfect.
The only competition is with yourself.... If you beat your own targets and objectives then that's what it's all about.
There are no prizes or accolades (apart from genuine well meaning congrats from fellow travelers when your efforts are clearly visible - oh and the odd compliment from the opposite sex
But there is the satisfaction of knowing only you could have done it.
Cheers paul
And David S., love the handicapping idea....!!!
BTW, the below pic was taken at the end of the summer when I had upped my protein to a crazy level and more mass was put on...starting that regiment again next week....
Cheers.... I'm aiming for just under 200lbs - and swapping fat for muscle. So main aim now is the tummy - tyre deflating is the true target.
I'm 6th and heavy boned so don't think much below 190 is possible or smart.
And as I said, it's the advice/tips/experiences that I and most others will be after from this thread and you're already making a lot of progress.. Keep it up.
I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet. I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight, forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc
Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down
Welshboy, there is also the fact that not all protein is equal. Proteins have a bioavailability factor - think of it as somewhat similar to the glycemic index for carbs. For example, when you cook chicken - because no one eats chicken raw - you can destroy up to 40% of the protein in it. So depending on the labels of the food we eat - does it specify cooked or uncooked protein content? - many of us get even LESS protein than we think (one of the reasons why people plateau and then they think they've just reached some sort of natural limit that they have). However, an egg has 100% bioavailability - not matter how you cook it you get all 7 grams of protein (in a large egg).
Regarding getting body fat down cardio is not the most effective way. An average size man will burn roughly 100 calories when he runs a mile. But if you add 2 pounds of muscle to your body your metabolism increases so you will burn an extra 100 calories every day - just from having that extra two pounds of muscle. And that's whether you go to the gym or not, and not counting the exercises that you do with that muscle. If you feel that you're fine with where you are for muscle development then obviously that will change what you want to do, but 2 pounds of muscle takes up so little physical space I doubt you'd really see it.
Just my two cents...
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Great montage most of us have been heading in the opposite direction since 32! Solid measurable progress. I'd never thought of doing the photo thing before but it is a great idea. The camera rarely lies after all.
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It's interesting to note how many of us have been inspired to get into shape by our love of Bond (and wanting to be like him). DC's more athletic, chiselled look certainly raised the bar.
I came from a non-sporty family and it's a struggle to start, but once you do and see results, it's addictive. I'm 48 and really only started to get fit in my mid 40s, but it can be done - whatever age you are.
I started running and still enjoy it but last summer swapped to a Boot Camp once a week. Those ex-military guys really push you and the weight loss and increased strength gains are impressive. I really recommend it, and they're springing up everywhere now.
I've also been practising ju-Jitsu for 4or 5 years and love it. It's a constant challenge and also helps with fitness, strength and general confidence. Finally I go to the gym once a week and also use free weights at home once or twice a week. I only take whey protein after a gym session but try to eat healthily... Though like a good drink once or twice week so 'could do better'.
My one piece of advice - for what it's worth - is to cut out bread as much as possible. Bread is the enemy.
Yup. Reducing carbs with early morning cardio usually results in quick fat loss for me as im already muscular though not as big as usual. Ideally I would like to maintain my current muscle (maybe add a little in lacking areas such as traps, calves) however get my fat down
Cheers for your comments on my opinion, Paul, which were directed at Waltherp99 views, which he subsequently qualified and explained, and not toward Returningson to whom we all, me included, have been extremely complementary.
Still, good to hear about your own motivations and routines and achievements.
Is it me, or is this thread becoming more an more like THE EXPENDABLES as we contribute our tales?
I hear you, eggs are the food of gods!! I have boiled eggs or scrambled everyday for breakfast as a bit like Fleming it is one of my fave foods. Always have eggs in the fridge
I dont want too much more muscle, just top myself up a little from being in a slump from Xmas. After 10 years on and off of pumping iron I have pretty good muscle memory. I have reduced the weights in my weight workouts (usually lift heavy) and upped the reps with less break between sets, run every other day etc
Im a civilian working out in a military gym in the Falklands on a military base!! If the PTI saw me wearing the PTI jacket the **** would hit the fan
Some very good points in here well made -{
If losing body fat is your aim, upping the resistance training in your routine is the way to go IMO. There's two schools of thought on the cardio front ... High intensity intervals or low intensity steady state. I'd go the HIT route myself as its over with quicker!, but each to their own with this so long as it works.
Carbs are not the enemy. Try to stick to wholemeal versions of rice / pasta, sweet potato or leafy green vegetables and where possible knock bread on the head. The best advice I was ever given was to eat darker lean meats early, getting lighter through the day. Try to get some sources of good fats in your diet ASAP (such as EVOOil, avocado etc), as these will help the body rid the bad fats.
Supplement wise I'd say get the best fish oil you can afford, check the protein content of your whey supplement supplier as its often padded out with other things such as soy, get BCAA's in (taste like filth) & possibly something like flaxseed too. I'd aim to achieve a higher protein intake initially (say 2.5/3g per kilo of bodyweight).
It's great to hear some of the success stories that have been achieved. Keep up the good work gang!!
Then when I was a teen in the 80s Stallone and Arnie were huge stars and almost every guy wanted to be HUGE. Unfortunately because there's so much bad info out there I don't know any of my peers who managed to do it. That's the funny thing about exercise; the stuff that really works seems ridiculous at first (until you understand the science behind it) and the stuff that *seems* like it should work doesn't.
Anyway, Craig seems to have hit the happy medium between being cut and lean and very muscular (as has Jason Statham now, he leaned out a lot after the first Transporter movie). But it is funny to think that when I was a kid THIS is the kind of shape that seemed to epitomize "big and strong":
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