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  • VinnyMacVinnyMac Posts: 246MI6 Agent
    VinnyMac wrote:
    And can any of you guys tell me whats up with DC's protruding gut in CR. it looks odd and doesn't have it in QOS or SF, im guessing its because hes bloated from bulking up?

    http://screenmusings.org/CasinoRoyale/pages/CR_1140.htm

    I noticed that, but I hadn't thought much of it. When you sit and try to flex your abs after a big drink or food, it happens.
    Yeah i understand that but its odd that just his abs stick out, its especially apparent in the scene when he takes off his dress shirt in the bathroom.

    I didn't notice it there. It could be a posture thing too. Some people keep a tight posture, with their stomach tightened. Some people don't. I've seen huge guys (with low bodyfat) have protruding stomachs because that's just the way that they stand.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Didn't know weather or not to revive this thread but since its just about beach season i figured i would give it a try :))

    Im at the start of my second week of no physical fitness whatsoever, as the past month i feel as if i have been over training and my Central nervous system was beyond taxed. But starting next week im going to cut my lifting days down from 5 days to 3 or 4 and cardio to 2 days. Have often do you guys have rest days?
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Walther - sounds like you have been at it hardcore!!!! I normally have at least 2 days full rest a week.

    Last time I went really hardcore lifting my hands went very weak (could hardly change gear in my car i was that weak). It was very strange and the doctors said it was to do with my nervous system etc. That was several years ago and very odd, been fine since but I was lifting at my peak then and eating crazy protein wise!

    Im just back from a long trip, have ate loads of crap (didnt drink much) however the amount of walking I did was huge hence not too bad. :))

    Caught flu 3 days before returning home, its lasted two weeks and I still have not hit the gym, im thinking maybe tomorrow. Cupboards stocked with good food and several tubs of Whey at the ready!
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Walther - sounds like you have been at it hardcore!!!! I normally have at least 2 days full rest a week.

    Last time I went really hardcore lifting my hands went very weak (could hardly change gear in my car i was that weak). It was very strange and the doctors said it was to do with my nervous system etc. That was several years ago and very odd, been fine since but I was lifting at my peak then and eating crazy protein wise!

    Im just back from a long trip, have ate loads of crap (didnt drink much) however the amount of walking I did was huge hence not too bad. :))

    Caught flu 3 days before returning home, its lasted two weeks and I still have not hit the gym, im thinking maybe tomorrow. Cupboards stocked with good food and several tubs of Whey at the ready!
    I have been! i use to go 6 days a week (really stupid) but then the last 3 months i took the weekends off hoping that that would be sufficient rest time but once the symptoms of over training started to crop up (constant runny nose, restlessness, constant fatigue, decreased gym performance and motivation,etc.) i decided i needed to give my body a break, and thankfully i was right as into day 3 or 4 last week the majority of the symptoms disappeared and i was feeling way better. I'm taking another weeks rest though just to make sure. So now i know that more doesn't necessarily mean better :))
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Yeah more def does not mean better.

    I used to spend 1 hour plus in the gym doing weights (normally 2 body parts per session)

    Nowadays I do it in 40 mins and get better results (high intensity, quicker and less boring)
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Hi, I always assumed Craig's gut in CR was due to his use of steroids to buff up, a bit of a gut can be a side effect, you see it even in the famous beach scene.

    But in the torture scene, he is hunched over and that can be the same; I get that when leaning over the wash basin, though it don't look so bad standing upright.
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    Just wondering where these theories about steroids come from?? Although DC clearly bulked for the CR role, he was hardly massive (IMO) and had a very good base to work from (I'm using Layer Cake as this basis for this). By all accounts he had a well-known PT beast him & would have had access to nutritionists / good foods galore, as well as opportunities for rest / recovery and the right supplementation.

    Other actors have done similar jobs to build themselves up, (Tom Hardy for the Warrior film readily springs to mind) and there's plenty of videos about showing the intensity of the workouts Hardy undertook.

    Just my view ... :)
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Ens007 wrote:
    Just wondering where these theories about steroids come from?? Although DC clearly bulked for the CR role, he was hardly massive (IMO) and had a very good base to work from (I'm using Layer Cake as this basis for this). By all accounts he had a well-known PT beast him & would have had access to nutritionists / good foods galore, as well as opportunities for rest / recovery and the right supplementation.

    Other actors have done similar jobs to build themselves up, (Tom Hardy for the Warrior film readily springs to mind) and there's plenty of videos about showing the intensity of the workouts Hardy undertook.

    Just my view ... :)
    I agree, i dont think he took any form of steroids for CR, as you said, he really wasn't that big. Most likely just a load of protein shakes, chicken and such but as a result his face is bloated and round in half the scenes.
  • David SchofieldDavid Schofield EnglandPosts: 1,528MI6 Agent
    Personally, I don't believe Craigy did Roid up - as pointed out, he wasn't THAT big - though his tales of how much time he spent chucking weights about did tend to vary from one post-film annecdote to another....

    Wouldn't be surprised if the odd corner was cut and the appearance embelished - he's movie star FFS - but I reckon he was MOSTLY enhancement free.

    Mostly. ;)
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Yeah, remember he's not an Olympian, it's all legal if he uses steroids. Just, from the press conference in what, October? to start of filming he'd done a hell of a lot to beef up.
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  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Also, if you do ab work with your abs pooched out they tend to grow that way...a rather common appearance which is why trainers tell you to suck in when doing ab work, as if an invisible thread is pulling your belly button to your spine...
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    Yeah, remember he's not an Olympian, it's all legal if he uses steroids. Just, from the press conference in what, October? to start of filming he'd done a hell of a lot to beef up.

    Well, it would still be illegal to buy and use steroids because in essence they are prescription drugs.
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  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    The Mantis wrote:
    Also, if you do ab work with your abs pooched out they tend to grow that way...a rather common appearance which is why trainers tell you to suck in when doing ab work, as if an invisible thread is pulling your belly button to your spine...

    In 20 years of being a trainer I've never heard this, nor can I think of any reason that this would happen. I was fortunate enough at the last gym that I worked at had some very highly-educated trainers (Masters degrees etc) and they never mentioned this. This only thing that I can think of is to engage the TVA as there is an idea that it helps to "pull" your stomach in regularly. However, having seen trainers who work their TVA a lot, and ones who don't, there really isn't any appreciable difference to their stomachs "sticking out". Like many "tips'n'tricks" when it comes to exercise there's a kernel of truth there but it's been exaggerated IMHO.

    RE: Craig and steroids I don't see any reason to think that he's used them. I've known several people who have gotten as big or bigger than Craig without steroids. Steroids have this almost mystical reputation but someone like Craig wouldn't need to use them. The results that he has gotten are easily attainable with a good diet and a good workout plan customized for him. The one benefit that he has is that his bodyfat is naturally lower than most people - seeing him in Laura Croft Tomb Raider shows he's always been quite fit and low fat. He's just changed the focus of what kind of physique he wants to have.

    Finally, in terms of how many days a week to work out it: the best number is what fits into your schedule. People are always looking for the magic bullet or the one answer for what is "best" i.e. best workout, best exercise, best food, etc. There's no such thing. At my last gym there were three trainers who were pretty much in the same shape as Craig in his films (one was a little bigger). One guy worked out 7 days a week and had done for two years. One guy worked out 5 days a week, and the other 3 days a week. Yet they were all in about the same shape because they tailored their workouts to their schedules. I work out either 5, 4, or 3 days a week based on my schedule and regardless of which number or days the results are always the same. It's not the time, it's what you do with it.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Personally, I don't believe Craigy did Roid up - as pointed out, he wasn't THAT big - though his tales of how much time he spent chucking weights about did tend to vary from one post-film annecdote to another....

    Wouldn't be surprised if the odd corner was cut and the appearance embelished - he's movie star FFS - but I reckon he was MOSTLY enhancement free.

    Mostly. ;)

    Agree

    Like most movie scenes he would have been pumped up when filming those scenes with his clothes off. He is not that big in my opinion and is simply in very good shape. After a session in the gym hammering the weights I can look pretty damn impressive for 30 mins with the blood pumping lol
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    edited May 2013
    The Mantis wrote:
    Also, if you do ab work with your abs pooched out they tend to grow that way...a rather common appearance which is why trainers tell you to suck in when doing ab work, as if an invisible thread is pulling your belly button to your spine...
    I've never heard of that, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    As for Craig's protruding abs, Its only seen in CR, every other film DC has been shirtless in (IE all of them) from Tomb Raider to Skyfall his abs are flat, im guessing its bloated or something from bulking for that film, but it nonetheless looks very odd.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    heres a quote from Craig: "I go to the gym five days a week for 40 minutes at a time."
  • VinnyMacVinnyMac Posts: 246MI6 Agent
    Didn't know weather or not to revive this thread but since its just about beach season i figured i would give it a try :))

    Im at the start of my second week of no physical fitness whatsoever, as the past month i feel as if i have been over training and my Central nervous system was beyond taxed. But starting next week im going to cut my lifting days down from 5 days to 3 or 4 and cardio to 2 days. Have often do you guys have rest days?

    I work late 2 days per week, so I generally don't work out on those days.
    Hi, I always assumed Craig's gut in CR was due to his use of steroids to buff up, a bit of a gut can be a side effect, you see it even in the famous beach scene.

    But in the torture scene, he is hunched over and that can be the same; I get that when leaning over the wash basin, though it don't look so bad standing upright.

    Of course, it's possible that he used some type of illegal anabolic, but I doubt it. These days, I don't think that anyone would take steroids to get fit for a few shirtless shots in a movie. It's not like he played a bodybuilder. Illegal weight-loss substances are probably more common for movie stars. Daniel Craig probably just got a good pump before those scenes to make himself look unrealistically fit.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Hows every ones progress going?
  • ReturningsonReturningson Posts: 560MI6 Agent
    The Mantis wrote:

    awesome David!!!! -{
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Thanks...I also started about a month as IF...intermittent fasting....has been amazing to slim down.
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    In the movie Thunderball, James Bond is sent to a fictitious health spa called Shrublands to convalesce after an especially harrowing mission. In my real life, I was compelled to join an actual wellness center called the Newtown Athletic Club for similar reasons. Of course my “harrowing mission” was a life of inactivity and a rather sloppy diet, not quite the life and death equivalent but it did spur me on to change the habits and sedentary lifestyle I had adopted in my 30s. Mind you (see evolution picture) I wasn’t obese or in terrible shape, but I did have the doughy and somewhat atrophied body of a busy executive. I didn’t want to accept that this was who I would be as a representation as I grew older so as I entered into my 40s I made a conscious move to change to a more active and controlled regiment utilizing James Bond as the ultimate inspiration.

    I have always enjoyed living the Bond lifestyle of travel, adventures, and similar trappings. But it wasn’t until 2008 that I finally realized what I hadn’t collected in my Bond lifestyle-the physicality and physique that Daniel Craig made famous in Casino Royale. Knowing Craig was about my age I realized that there was no excuse NOT to obtain the Bond Body and the only thing standing in my way were flimsy excuses.

    The entire journey is documented in the Sept/Oct issue of Philly Fit, complete with year by year evolution picks. But what isn’t obvious in the article is the significant role the NAC played in this journey. Being in the advertising industry I am very careful with endorsements but I can say with great integrity that without the NAC my journey would not have been as successful and might I add, as pleasurable. For even though it has been hard work and discipline, the NAC environment and its employees were my Sherpa through the precarious mountain of health and wellness.

    My wife introduced me to the NAC some five years ago citing it as “more than a gym”. I was dubious but curious and joined with the Bond inspiration pushing me through the doors. Some good friends (James Cain of Vault and John Fulton) volunteered to create Bond-like routines and always kept it energetic and interesting. I was trying to keep up with 25 year olds! But they and the NAC staff always were supportive and giving of their time. Soon, the discipline of getting up at 4:30 to start a 5:15 AM workout was my challenge, but I discovered a hardy and engaged group of people (the 5 AMers) that were all there for the same reason…something or someone had inspired them to value health and wellness over that extra few hours of sleep. There is a Bond quote from one of Fleming’s books that goes, “…there is time to rest when one is dead…”. So true.

    Well, into my five year tenure at the NAC, the workouts have become a little less Bond related and a lot more therapy related. As an executive at a busy advertising agency my time at the gym is vital to detox from the stress and pressure of the day. Where Bond was my inspiration to begin, what has kept me moving forward is the inspiration from within that is fueled by seeing incremental changes and improvements month to month.

    Now with the creation of the outdoor pool/resort area, the NAC has truly been transformed into a Bond-like environment. Reminiscent of the Fountain Bleu in Goldfinger, you half expect Connery to turn the corner in his baby blue toweling suit! If the inside of the NAC is where one can transform themselves into Bond then the outside resort area is where one can continue the fantasy. Drinks, food, ambiance, and music….at any one time the adult pool looks like a scene from a Bond movie…minus the occasional maniacal villain. Although there is that guy with the upside down paperback and dark sunglasses…but I digress.

    My journey is far from over. All of us have areas of our body that we aren’t satisfied with and I am no exception. My core is the next ‘mountain’ I need to climb and I have adjusted my diet and exercise to begin focusing on my misgivings around my middle. Perhaps you will see me in the wee hours of the morning, iPod blaring the Bond theme and striving for that next level that gets me closer to the Casino Royale physique. What reassures me is that the NAC will be there to give me the surroundings to make it a fun and successful endeavor, that will leave me neither shaken, nor stirred….
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Nice article David!!

    With regards to IF - I will read up on it however have you had any muscle loss??
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    With regards to IF - I will read up on it however have you had any muscle loss??

    Not sure if you use them already, but taking BCAAs pre & intra workout are maybe something to look at.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Ens007 wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    With regards to IF - I will read up on it however have you had any muscle loss??

    Not sure if you use them already, but taking BCAAs pre & intra workout are maybe something to look at.

    Already do mate. I was referring to Mantis mention of intermittent fasting and wondering impact of muscle loss with this form of diet, got an article up online with info (rather lengthy so will give it a read)

    Cheers!
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  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    no muscle loss...but my muscle is more defined now...lost some of the baby fat...
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    Just walked in the door from the gym. I had originally intended to leave the office at 4:00 (my gym is a block away) but I got a client call as I was packing up my laptop. People's financial problems don't wait until the next morning to happen, sadly...

    Finally got to the gym at 5:30 but then had to take a break in the middle of my workout for a pre-scheduled client call. But I completed my workout and improved a bit from last week. The last 6 months have been really busy, but I've committed to get back to going 4 times a week. I've lost some size from my shoulders and upper chest but I should have that and the 6 pack back in time for Xmas. Having a specific goal like that to work towards is in my opinion essential (and for everything in life, not just the gym). Knowing what my end goal is and the time frame I can better plan for the next month and a half. It's only 24 workouts away!

    Now back to my leftover steak :-)
  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    The Mantis wrote:
    Thanks...I also started about a month as IF...intermittent fasting....has been amazing to slim down.

    Out of interest, what format for this have you followed David?
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Have really upped my food intake in the last few weeks, ive been eating over 3,000 calories a day and its really showing, i have alot more overall mass.
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