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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Its been awhile! How's everyone's fitness goals coming along? And what did you think of Craig's physique In SP? I think of his four films his physique looked the most lean in SP. Also outside of the titles SP has the least amount of shirtless scenes compared to the ambundant amount in SF. I'm sure that certainly helped SF cross the Billion dollar mark :)).
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Funny, I thought he looked leanest in Sf! I personally preferred his bigger qos physique. I'm a long time weight lifter got into it in my rugby union and boxing days, at 41 I only do maintainance exercise, being 6'4" I end up too big and too hungry :) I mix calesthetics with dumbbell exercise and do some bar work like squats and bench press. Works for me with a decent diet. I've been ripped no matter how hard I trained or dieted. Just not in my make up I guess.
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  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Funny this came up....just upped my protein for the summer and added some things to my P90X3 that have really taxed me...
  • MrZarebaMrZareba Krakow, PolandPosts: 1,775MI6 Agent
    Its been awhile! How's everyone's fitness goals coming along? And what did you think of Craig's physique In SP? I think of his four films his physique looked the most lean in SP. Also outside of the titles SP has the least amount of shirtless scenes compared to the ambundant amount in SF. I'm sure that certainly helped SF cross the Billion dollar mark :)).

    I'm bigger, I have a 15 inch bicep (13 inch when I started going to the gym last year), 45 inch chest (41 when started) and everyone around is telling me that my shoulders are definitely bigger! But unfortunately there is no mass gain without getting a little bit fat :/ So I'm not posting pictures since I don't look awesome definitely :D Not yet at least lol
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Funny, I thought he looked leanest in Sf! I personally preferred his bigger qos physique. I'm a long time weight lifter got into it in my rugby union and boxing days, at 41 I only do maintainance exercise, being 6'4" I end up too big and too hungry :) I mix calesthetics with dumbbell exercise and do some bar work like squats and bench press. Works for me with a decent diet. I've been ripped no matter how hard I trained or dieted. Just not in my make up I guess.
    With the exception of CR where he was clearly his biggest. Besides a pound or two I don't think theres much noticeable difference between his physique in QOS,SF, and SP. That said, I think he looked his best in SF and worst in SP. You could cut your hand on how chiseled his jawline was in SF :))

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  • JMac88JMac88 Posts: 285MI6 Agent
    Its been awhile! How's everyone's fitness goals coming along? And what did you think of Craig's physique In SP? I think of his four films his physique looked the most lean in SP. Also outside of the titles SP has the least amount of shirtless scenes compared to the ambundant amount in SF. I'm sure that certainly helped SF cross the Billion dollar mark :)).

    It actually has NO shirtless scenes outside of the opening titles. I think his physique may not have been the same as it used to be, he looked ever so slightly puffier in the face/neck to me but it could be my imagination. Still looks great, just not CR/QoS Dan.

    In other news, thanks to too much squatting, my quads and glutes are now too big for my Orlebar Brown Skyfall trunks. Found out the hard way at the beach last week :#
  • ichaiceichaice LondonPosts: 604MI6 Agent
    Since Casino Royale I've been a big fan of the condition DC has got himself into to play Bond. Great shoulder and chest development here but maybe just a little bit bloated or is it just the camera angle. Either way still pretty impressive.


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  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    ichaice wrote:
    Since Casino Royale I've been a big fan of the condition DC has got himself into to play Bond.

    I definitely agree. Looking at his pre CR build, including his Layer Cake build which was only a couple years before CR, he wouldn't exactly be classed as muscular - he had a slim, fit/athletic build, but not muscular. The work he had to do to build up his physique for Bond really has to be admired.

    I guess he did have the expensive personal trainers (Mr Waterson) and nutritionists, but his effort is still impressive. I believe he even gave up smoking to get in shape for CR and I imagine that's not an easy task!
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    ichaice wrote:
    Since Casino Royale I've been a big fan of the condition DC has got himself into to play Bond.

    I definitely agree. Looking at his pre CR build, including his Layer Cake build which was only a couple years before CR, he wouldn't exactly be classed as muscular - he had a slim, fit/athletic build, but not muscular. The work he had to do to build up his physique for Bond really has to be admired.

    I guess he did have the expensive personal trainers (Mr Waterson) and nutritionists, but his effort is still impressive. I believe he even gave up smoking to get in shape for CR and I imagine that's not an easy task!
    If you look at him in his Layer Cake/Tomb Raider days you can tell he already had a great base on which to build muscle mass.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    edited June 2016
    ichaice wrote:
    Since Casino Royale I've been a big fan of the condition DC has got himself into to play Bond. Great shoulder and chest development here but maybe just a little bit bloated or is it just the camera angle. Either way still pretty impressive.


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    I think he looks perfectly fine, he does occasionally look bloated in CR though, and he has that often discussed weird protruding gut going on just in that film.
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  • TheundeadkennedyTheundeadkennedy Posts: 292MI6 Agent
    Not that I have room to talk, but I noticed the gut bloat in Spectre. The very slim fitting suits helped showcase it for me. Especially when he fiddles with buttoning them.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    Probably sneaking a cheeky few pints of Guinness :))
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Not that I have room to talk, but I noticed the gut bloat in Spectre. The very slim fitting suits helped showcase it for me. Especially when he fiddles with buttoning them.
    I agree, I know the fit of his SF suits are often derided here but I personally found the tight fit to be way worse and noticeable in SP, especially in the PTS, and his physique probably exacerbated that.
  • TheundeadkennedyTheundeadkennedy Posts: 292MI6 Agent
    I agree, I know the fit of his SF suits are often derided here but I personally found the tight fit to be way worse and noticeable in SP, especially in the PTS, and his physique probably exacerbated that.

    Agreed.
  • sunny01sunny01 Posts: 525MI6 Agent
    ichaice wrote:
    Since Casino Royale I've been a big fan of the condition DC has got himself into to play Bond. Great shoulder and chest development here but maybe just a little bit bloated or is it just the camera angle. Either way still pretty impressive.


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    I think he looks perfectly fine, he does occasionally look bloated in CR though, and he has that often discussed weird protruding gut going on just in that film.
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    Protruding stomach like that is often a sign of steroid use. Internal organs become enlarged as well which is why when you see professional bodybuilder they have a sick pack and zero fat but the stomach bulges out. I think drugs are rife in the movie business anyway as there is so much pressure to look good for a movie and they can do it for a relatively short period of time and mitigate against long terms effects.
  • MrZarebaMrZareba Krakow, PolandPosts: 1,775MI6 Agent
    sunny01 wrote:
    ichaice wrote:
    Since Casino Royale I've been a big fan of the condition DC has got himself into to play Bond. Great shoulder and chest development here but maybe just a little bit bloated or is it just the camera angle. Either way still pretty impressive.


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    I think he looks perfectly fine, he does occasionally look bloated in CR though, and he has that often discussed weird protruding gut going on just in that film.
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    Protruding stomach like that is often a sign of steroid use. Internal organs become enlarged as well which is why when you see professional bodybuilder they have a sick pack and zero fat but the stomach bulges out. I think drugs are rife in the movie business anyway as there is so much pressure to look good for a movie and they can do it for a relatively short period of time and mitigate against long terms effects.

    Craig was and still is fully natural. He trained usually very hard for a couple of months - for almost a year for Casino Royale if I'm correct and he already had a very good muscle base.

    I hate this "stereoids argument" because people can't just accept the fact that an actor with limitless resources can achieve things a normal person can't dream of. So a normal guy tries to find an explenation, which is stereoids in most cases. If you spend 6000$ a month just for a good diet/training/supplements and have a world class coach looking after you - trust me everything is achievable. Especially when your motivation is couple million dollars.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    edited June 2016
    DC doesnt need steroids, he had an athletic body to start with and little fat. Not hard to put some muscle on his layer cake body. Besides I doubt waterson would have allowed it.

    I dont think he was that much bigger in CR anyhow. Everybody knows in action films the body shots are filmed usually with some light weights on set to get pumped for the scene. Always thought it was a bit OTT after that beach scene - hes never had a super 6 pack for a start. Think it caused a stir as we have never had a Bond in such shape
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    Double post
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  • MrZarebaMrZareba Krakow, PolandPosts: 1,775MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    DC doesnt need steroids, he had an athletic body to start with and little fat. Not hard to put some muscle on his layer cake body. Besides I doubt waterson would have allowed it.

    I dont think he was that much bigger in CR anyhow. Everybody knows in action films the body shots are filmed usually with some light weights on set to get pumped for the scene. Always thought it was a bit OTT after that beach scene - hes never had a super 6 pack for a start. Think it caused a stir as we have never had a Bond in such shape

    That's very true with those weights. I remember some behind the scenes footage from Snyder's "300", they were doing some reps in between almost every take 8-)
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    I'll leave this here just as an example of why it's really hard to judge fitness routines or any supplements taken based on a few seconds of film...

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    I'll leave this here just as an example of why it's really hard to judge fitness routines or any supplements taken based on a few seconds of film...

    https://youtu.be/M957dACQyfU

    Precisely! If I got for a 40 length swim or hammer the weights I look pretty damn huge. 40 mins later back to normal lol
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    edited June 2016
    This is true, after a weights session I look far more vascular and substantially bigger, I too have an abdominal make up where the muscles under my sternum can whilst breathing in protrude, in the past I've been able to get some definition on these but not lower down on abdomen, I've never touched steroids!
    DC has a naturally low subcutaneous fat layer, it differs from person to person, also being shorter it is relatively easy for his body type to increase actual muscle size and perceived muscle size, doing weights between takes is the norm Hugh jackman has always done it for any take where his arms are on show, just think how your arms look first thing in the morning, then do 20 pressups and see the difference! let's not forget DC had time and resources to train every day and rest up properly, his commitment is admirable. Talk of steroids is totally wrong in this case.
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  • JMac88JMac88 Posts: 285MI6 Agent
    sunny01 wrote:
    Protruding stomach like that is often a sign of steroid use. Internal organs become enlarged as well which is why when you see professional bodybuilder they have a sick pack and zero fat but the stomach bulges out. I think drugs are rife in the movie business anyway as there is so much pressure to look good for a movie and they can do it for a relatively short period of time and mitigate against long terms effects.

    Protruding gut is a symptom of HGH (human growth hormone) and insulin abuse, not steroids. Body builders in the 70's and 80's were on steroids, but not HGH and insulin, so they were big but not huge and didn't have the gut problem (google vintage Arnold or Frank Zane). Sometime in the 90's it was discovered that insulin had tremendously positive effects on the ability to grow muscles quickly, especially in combination with HGH (which will also make your organs grow, hence the gut). Look at guys like Phil Heath, Kai Greene, Ronnie Coleman and you'll see what steroids + HGH + insulin in large amounts will do.

    Having spent a lot of time around the body building community, I can say pretty confidently that DC has never taken steroids. He doesn't have any of the physical hallmarks, and the gut you see on him is mainly the result of genetics, as well as enjoying a pint or 2 (something DC has never been shy about admitting). His physique in all the Bond movies is completely obtainable without the help of anything beyond legal supplements.
  • sunny01sunny01 Posts: 525MI6 Agent
    JMac88 wrote:
    sunny01 wrote:
    Protruding stomach like that is often a sign of steroid use. Internal organs become enlarged as well which is why when you see professional bodybuilder they have a sick pack and zero fat but the stomach bulges out. I think drugs are rife in the movie business anyway as there is so much pressure to look good for a movie and they can do it for a relatively short period of time and mitigate against long terms effects.

    Protruding gut is a symptom of HGH (human growth hormone) and insulin abuse, not steroids. Body builders in the 70's and 80's were on steroids, but not HGH and insulin, so they were big but not huge and didn't have the gut problem (google vintage Arnold or Frank Zane). Sometime in the 90's it was discovered that insulin had tremendously positive effects on the ability to grow muscles quickly, especially in combination with HGH (which will also make your organs grow, hence the gut). Look at guys like Phil Heath, Kai Greene, Ronnie Coleman and you'll see what steroids + HGH + insulin in large amounts will do.

    Fair enough but I would classify HGH as a steroid! Stallone is an avid user. He was caught when travelling with vials of it. I have friends who have taken it and it is entirely possible for film stars to take the odd injection for a few months. I am not saying DC did just that it's possible. The people I know who have done HGH did not have any noticeable side effects other than being more ripped.

    Having spent a lot of time around the body building community, I can say pretty confidently that DC has never taken steroids. He doesn't have any of the physical hallmarks, and the gut you see on him is mainly the result of genetics, as well as enjoying a pint or 2 (something DC has never been shy about admitting). His physique in all the Bond movies is completely obtainable without the help of anything beyond legal supplements.
  • JMac88JMac88 Posts: 285MI6 Agent
    sunny01 wrote:

    Fair enough but I would classify HGH as a steroid! Stallone is an avid user. He was caught when travelling with vials of it. I have friends who have taken it and it is entirely possible for film stars to take the odd injection for a few months. I am not saying DC did just that it's possible. The people I know who have done HGH did not have any noticeable side effects other than being more ripped.

    HGH is classified as its own thing apart from steroids, though they have similar effects. And I should emphasize it's really the insulin + HGH that causes the gut. People can take generic HGH and still look normal relative to a pro bodybuilder on massive amounts of gear.

    I didn't know that about Stallone, but it makes sense. And yeah there's probably more gear usage in Hollywood than we really know, but DC still looks clean to me.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,326MI6 Agent
    Stallone is pretty vocal about HGH. The Aussies stopped him importing it when he was there filming something.

    To be fair I think him and Arnie have always been vocal about their "supplements", unlike other stars.

    I remember Stallone talking about his diet during either Rocky 3 or Rambo 3. He said all he had was Burnt toast and coffee, starved himself totally as reflected by his crazy bodyfat in those films
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  • JMac88JMac88 Posts: 285MI6 Agent
    Arnold has admitted to taking steroids, but I don't think he's ever said how much (or hasn't been 100% honest). Some people I know claim he was on tons, some claim he was on very little. I wish he'd speak out on it more as he has the power to help better educate the larger public on the subject, and make it less taboo. Good to hear Stallone is vocal about it. That diet sounds insane and I have a lot of respect for that kind of dedication to his work.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Funny, I watched predator on tv last night, haven't seen it for years, Arnie is just huge and looking back now it's obvious he's trained on steroids, interestingly though Carl weathers looks in great shape in that film but he has the enlarged abdomen, very pronounced. Haven't seen it for years and years, quite enjoyed it, made me smile how they take their kit off at any opportunity, looks like a boys love fest in one scene.
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  • ichaiceichaice LondonPosts: 604MI6 Agent
    I'm an older (about the same age as DC) long time weight trainer. For many years I used to concentrate on weights with little cardio. I've trained at UP Fitness here in London and done most kinds of weight training. I've always been in reasonable shape and experimented with putting on bulk, stripping away fat etc. My weight has fluctuated by as much as 20lbs. Unfortunately time, age, wear and tear took it's toll and I've had lot's of issues, mainly with my elbows. I suffered very badly with tennis elbow which took a long time and three physios before it improved.

    At the start of the year I started suffering with golfers elbow (the opposite side of the elbow to tennis elbow). This prompted me to look into alternatives as now my main focus is to be fit and healthy rather than bulky in constant pain. I had always done a little bit of HIIT but in very small quantities so decided to give it a go. I'm now doing three HIIT cardio sessions a week (mountain climbers, burpees etc) and two weights HIIT sessions. During the weights sessions I'm only lifting a fraction of what I used to knock out. Occasionally I will still do a strength weights session just to shake things up. I must admit I'm enjoying my training again and find it to be varied and challenging. My wife hated doing weight training and is now doing HIIT cardio and is really enjoying it.

    Here's me at UP Fitness after a particularly hard session a couple of years ago :)

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    Here's pretty much where I am now in terms of progress

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  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    ichaice, very motivational story and photo... I had a similar aha evolution journey...when I started a serious concentration in fitness it was with just weights....but now that I have a few years of P90X3 instead and assorted burst training, at 48.5 years old I am in the best shape of my life...muscle tone better, more streamlined etc...still a journey to go before goals (meaning it wont ever end) but so much happier I switched from the weights and machine focus....here is me in NYC just yesterday:


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