For Your Eyes Only

Hugo DraxHugo Drax Leeds, United Kingdom.Posts: 210MI6 Agent
Felt like watching a Moore Bond film and put this in the DVD player last night.

I really enjoyed it. Then I read some reviews online and it seemed to suggest that the film was not well-received on release. I think this is one of Moore's strongest entries. It has a decent plot, one of the most beautiful Bond girls who is no pushover and a strong supporting cast.

Some of the contemporary reviews took the line that it 'didn't compare to the gritty heyday of the Connery films'. However, this argument has always reminded me of those people who get nostalgic about a Britain in which there was supposedly no crime at all and in which society had values: this country never existed!

I liked the relative absence of gadgets and toned down humour. The pre-titles, Bond killing Locque and the cliff climb are the highlights of the film for me.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    FYEO made me a Bond fan back in 1981!

    I remember that I 'was walking on clouds' after the screening - could not imagine that a movie could be done better.

    It's still my favourite movie - together with OHMSS
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    edited February 2013
    my favorite sequence starts with the dinner with kristatos, "if you play the odds"casino scene, driving home with the Countess "I'm writing a novel on Greek smugglers." and the following beach walk the next morning.
    "that sounds like a dismissal. I was rather looking forward to breakfast"
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Yes, it's certainly Moore's best Bond film for me - it has all the requisite elements a Fleming Bond fan looks for! Moore always rated TSWLM as his favourite, as do many, but I think FYEO has much more soul. **** reviewers, I say!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    At the time it was ever so slightly routine. The ski stuff had been done better in the pts of TSWLM. The car chase was quirky and okay. But in no area did it really push the boat out and do anything new. Compared to MR and of course LALD's speedboat antics which had thrilled young fans the year before on telly.

    It had boring elements too, with Monique and the icky Bibi scenes. I'm not sure contemporary reviewers compared it much to the Connery films though, they were ancient history back then, even more than now oddly.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • NeverSayDieNeverSayDie Posts: 495MI6 Agent
    The soundtrack is awesome. Classic 80's!
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent

    It had boring elements too, with Monique and the icky Bibi scenes. I'm not sure contemporary reviewers compared it much to the Connery films though, they were ancient history back then, even more than now oddly.

    Monique??

    Nap, are you sure that you have seen the movie that you are currently commenting on?

    btt: The soundtrack is a masterpiece imo.
    It has class while not remotely trying to immitate Barry.
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Oh yeah, I mean Melina. It's been a while since I saw that, and what a boring Bond girl.

    Mind you, if you say Conti's score is a masterpiece, the question is have you ever seen the film! :D
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    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Yes, it's certainly Moore's best Bond film for me - it has all the requisite elements a Fleming Bond fan looks for! Moore always rated TSWLM as his favourite, as do many, but I think FYEO has much more soul.

    FYEO had good intentions and I admire it quite a bit for getting Bond back to earth. However, I would say the true Fleming Bond fan is better off just reading the books. I would rather the cinematic Bond resemble TSWLM and MR. It's more of a "pure cinema" experience without ties to a literary source.

    With that in mind I've just started reading the Moonraker novel and I'm expecting a completely different experience than the film.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Up to a point; I was amazed to find the hovercraft gondola makes an appearance in Fleming's novel, albeit relocated to Little Venice in North London. Shows even Fleming had a silly sense of humour.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Up to a point; I was amazed to find the hovercraft gondola makes an appearance in Fleming's novel, albeit relocated to Little Venice in North London. Shows even Fleming had a silly sense of humour.

    WTF?! Does it! Can't remember that! Give us a reference on that one, or are you pulling our collective legs there, Mr Plural?!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Yes, it's certainly Moore's best Bond film for me - it has all the requisite elements a Fleming Bond fan looks for! Moore always rated TSWLM as his favourite, as do many, but I think FYEO has much more soul.

    FYEO had good intentions and I admire it quite a bit for getting Bond back to earth. However, I would say the true Fleming Bond fan is better off just reading the books. I would rather the cinematic Bond resemble TSWLM and MR. It's more of a "pure cinema" experience without ties to a literary source.

    With that in mind I've just started reading the Moonraker novel and I'm expecting a completely different experience than the film.

    You're in for a REAL treat there, Firemass. Moonraker is IMHO Fleming's finest James Bond novel!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Oh yeah, I mean Melina. It's been a while since I saw that, and what a boring Bond girl.

    Mind you, if you say Conti's score is a masterpiece, the question is have you ever seen the film! :D
    Quite. The film gets high marks as a good recover from MR, NOT as a great movie on it's own. Roger is great IN it though.
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  • LastRatStandingLastRatStanding ScotlandPosts: 296MI6 Agent
    For Your Eyes Only is really good over all. I don't quite get it though. There are perhaps some of the darkest scenes out of the entire series but also some of the silliest! This doesn't really bother me but it seems like it doesn't know what it wants to be.
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  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    FYEO is my favourite Bond film, and Melina is my fav Bond girl.
    Oh yeah, I mean Melina. It's been a while since I saw that, and what a boring Bond girl.
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  • ChromeJobChromeJob Durham, NC USAPosts: 149MI6 Agent
    Just watched it again a few nights ago. As remembered, Moore was looking just a bit old for Melina (not to mention just a bit too old for the smirky come-on and suave "don't you want me in your knickers" attitude), which made the Bibi scenes just that much more funny (well I think they're funny, an ironic twist on the overblown "Bond as walking aphrodesiac" trope). The music was goofy and contemporary, but no more trying to be of the time than Barry's score for OHMSS. Carole Bouquet was icy and determined, if a bit deadpan (I'd want my modern Elektra a bit more fiery; Irene Papas in ZORBA would be exquisite). The plot, though recycled from other films, "worked." And though Moore didn't want to do it, the killing of Locque is great "old Bond" flavour.

    Though Michael G. Wilson recalled that they decided to "go back to Fleming," I think in reality the producers realized that they couldnt' get any more outlandish than MOONRAKER, and had to reset, partly out of desperation. Unfortunately, the film seems to move dreamily from scene to scene, with the requisite baker's dozen of attempts on Bond's life, and easy clues. The "Risico" twist is nice, made more interesting knowing that Julian Glover was one contender to play Bond many years before.

    Another treat is a small role played by Charles Dance, before he achieved recognition in THE JEWEL IN THE CROWN and THE GOLDEN CHILD.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    One slight quibble - I don't think the comparison of the FYEO score to the score for OHMSS is apt. The OHMSS score is timeless, whereas I don't think the same can be said of the score for FYEO which seems to be much more tied to the particular era in which it was composed. Just my two cents.
    ChromeJob wrote:
    Just watched it again a few nights ago. As remembered, Moore was looking just a bit old for Melina (not to mention just a bit too old for the smirky come-on and suave "don't you want me in your knickers" attitude), which made the Bibi scenes just that much more funny (well I think they're funny, an ironic twist on the overblown "Bond as walking aphrodesiac" trope). The music was goofy and contemporary, but no more trying to be of the time than Barry's score for OHMSS. Carole Bouquet was icy and determined, if a bit deadpan (I'd want my modern Elektra a bit more fiery; Irene Papas in ZORBA would be exquisite). The plot, though recycled from other films, "worked." And though Moore didn't want to do it, the killing of Locque is great "old Bond" flavour.

    Though Michael G. Wilson recalled that they decided to "go back to Fleming," I think in reality the producers realized that they couldnt' get any more outlandish than MOONRAKER, and had to reset, partly out of desperation. Unfortunately, the film seems to move dreamily from scene to scene, with the requisite baker's dozen of attempts on Bond's life, and easy clues. The "Risico" twist is nice, made more interesting knowing that Julian Glover was one contender to play Bond many years before.

    Another treat is a small role played by Charles Dance, before he achieved recognition in THE JEWEL IN THE CROWN and THE GOLDEN CHILD.
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  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    Yes, it's certainly Moore's best Bond film for me - it has all the requisite elements a Fleming Bond fan looks for! Moore always rated TSWLM as his favourite, as do many, but I think FYEO has much more soul. **** reviewers, I say!

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    For Your Eyes Only is the best Bond film starring Moore - because it incorporates elements from two of Fleming's short stories into a brilliantly written, acted and directed film. I'm not a big fan of Moore, but I love this film.
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  • LazenbyfanLazenbyfan USAPosts: 53MI6 Agent
    Absolutely my favorite Roger Moore Bond film.

    Everything clicked and it was a proper espionage case.

    No super villiain bent on world domination, no "unbelieveable" stunt work, no bedding every girl that passes, one of Bond's best allies in Columbo, a cracking great cast, superb theme song...

    ...I could go on and on about how much I loved this movie.
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  • Distorted HumorDistorted Humor Posts: 66MI6 Agent
    For Your Eyes Only is one of my top 10 bonds. And also it was a nice break from the "Campy" stuff, which I also enjoy.
    1 - GE, 2 - DN, 3 - CR, 4 - GF, 5 - FYEO, 6 - TLD, 7 - SF, 8 - FRWL, 9 - LALD, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - LTK, 12 - OP, 13 - YOLT, 14 - TB, 15 - MR, 16 - TWINE, 17 - OHMSS, 18 - TND, 19 - DAD, 20 - TMWTGG, 21 - AVTAK, 22 - DAF, 23 - QoS
  • Nick37Nick37 Posts: 270MI6 Agent
    FYEO is definitely Moore's finest outing. Not my favorite of his films, but up there. And Topol is a great ally, echos of Kerim Bey. It was so refreshing to see him kick that car off the side. It totally fit the scene.
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  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    Nick37 wrote:
    It was so refreshing to see him kick that car off the side. It totally fit the scene.

    It was a waste of a brand new Mercedes-Benz S-Class, though :(

    If they had used a car I didn't like or care for so much in that scene, I guess I wouldn't have minded as much :p
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Lazenbyfan wrote:
    Absolutely my favorite Roger Moore Bond film.

    Everything clicked and it was a proper espionage case.

    No super villiain bent on world domination, no "unbelieveable" stunt work, no bedding every girl that passes, one of Bond's best allies in Columbo, a cracking great cast, superb theme song...

    ...I could go on and on about how much I loved this movie.

    Yes, the banality of evil is best seen in Julian Glover's great performance as Aris Kristatos. -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Hate the soundtrack, can't stand Melina, lifeless and though I usually go for long legged brunettes I find her totally un-sexy, hate the 2CV chase, hate the stupid gags, just hate the movie, my least favourite Bond movie along with AVTAK and OP. Sheena Easton was ok though.
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    I really like this movie. I absolutly love the 2CV chase! Think Melina is very pretty and one of the first really independent Bond girls.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • Nick37Nick37 Posts: 270MI6 Agent
    "One slight quibble - I don't think the comparison of the FYEO score to the score for OHMSS is apt. The OHMSS score is timeless, whereas I don't think the same can be said of the score for FYEO which seems to be much more tied to the particular era in which it was composed. Just my two cents."

    Personally, while I like them, and own both soundtrack scores, I think both are products of their particular era. The electric keyboard version of the James Bond theme (Which I think is really cool) and Louie Armstrong's song are very 60s sounding, and I'd have guessed OHMSS was a 60s film, even if I didn't know the date.

    The FYEO soundtrack actually sounds a bit more dated than the film actually is, especially the Disco-ish version of the James Bond theme that plays during the helicopter sequence with "Blofeld". It heavily reminds me of "Bond '77" from TSWLM. In fact, if you played them back to back, they might even both sound like they were Marvin Hamlisch's.

    The tracks that play during the ski chase and the Citroen chase also sound dated 70s/80s to me (And I listen to a LOT of oldies) However, I really like that kind of music, so I think both tracks rock (As i do the updated Bond theme in FYEO).

    Sheena Easton's song and the instrumental versions of it don't sound very dated, however.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    Hate the soundtrack, can't stand Melina, lifeless and though I usually go for long legged brunettes I find her totally un-sexy, hate the 2CV chase, hate the stupid gags, just hate the movie, my least favourite Bond movie along with AVTAK and OP. Sheena Easton was ok though.
    Right there with ya (except I like OP). :)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Up to a point; I was amazed to find the hovercraft gondola makes an appearance in Fleming's novel, albeit relocated to Little Venice in North London. Shows even Fleming had a silly sense of humour.

    WTF?! Does it! Can't remember that! Give us a reference on that one, or are you pulling our collective legs there, Mr Plural?!

    Well, I don't have the exact page number to hand, but it was another dream sequence (the first about the annihilation of London with the nurse maids in the park) after which Bond wakes up sweating.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • raptors_887raptors_887 CanadaPosts: 215MI6 Agent
    This movie is near the bottom of my list. I just thought it was boring.
    1: Casino Royale 2: Goldeneye 3: Skyfall 4: Octopussy 5: Goldfinger 6: Tomorrow Never Dies 7: The World Is Not Enough 8: The Living Daylights 9: From Russia With Love 10: The Spy Who Loved Me
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    edited February 2013
    Roger Moore gives his best performance as Bond in FYEO. He's the same likeable, human character as in TSWLM and MR, but actually his interpretation is better served by FYEO's traditional action/adventure format than by Lewis Gilbert's more hardware-heavy pastiche movies. This despite Moore having repeatedly said that he felt most at ease in TSWLM. Interestingly, Moore objected to the scene in FYEO where Bond cold-bloodedly kicks Locque's car over the cliff. Moore felt that this wasn't in keeping with his style of playing Bond; he wanted it to be merely his flick of Locque's 'Dove' badge into the car which tipped it over the edge. John Glen was right to stand his ground: the angry kick as included in the film gives Bond dramatic weight and credibility. And anyway, a similar scene in TSWLM where Bond sends Sandor over the edge of a roof, having extracted information from him, is far more callous, and casually so; with Locque there are personal as well as professional motivations for finishing him off so decisively (revenge for the murders of Ferrara and Lisl).

    FYEO is John Glen's first Bond movie as director yet it stands with his last, LTK, as among his most accomplished work. Despite the slapstick manner of Blofeld's send-off in the pre-credits sequence, and Faith Bown's comic impersonation of Margaret Thatcher at the end, FYEO is more consistent in tone than OP, AVTAK and TLD. Like LTK, it's an essentially coherent movie, taking itself seriously. There are some nice little directorial touches, too. For instance, I like the moment when the genial, breathless vicar who explains to Bond that his headquarters are sending a helicopter for him suddenly turns grim and makes the sign of the cross as the chopper takes off. Is he one of Blofeld's men? I also like how, with professional cool, Locque raises his hand to his sidekick to prevent him from getting involved as Bond makes his escape and wreaks havoc in the grounds of Gonzales' villa - and how at this point a heavy snatches back the wad of cash tossed to one of the prostitutes. This attention to detail works well.

    It's interesting that both FYEO and LTK successfully use ingenious elements from the same Fleming novel, LLD, which the film version of LLD didn't go near, i.e. the villain's evil idea of binding Bond and the heroine together and towing them from a boat over coral to attract sharks (in FYEO); Leiter mutilated by a shark, and Bond paying back in kind the lackey responsible - The Robber (in the novel LLD)/Killifer (in LTK).

    FYEO's cinematography is lush and expansive. Melina Havelock is a beautiful heroine and one of the strongest, most credible Bond women of any era. The Kristatos/Columbo intrigue is entertaining. There are some other compelling supporting performances, too, especially Michael Gothard as the menacing, dangerous Locque and Jack Heady as Melina's Flemingesque father. Some of Bond's greatest stunt artists are at work - Bob Simmons (supervising fights), Willy Bogner and Rick Sylvester. Bill Conti's style of using shrill synthesisers dates FYEO, but Conti does compose some memorable themes which complement the locations and enhance the drama.

    Bringing Bond 'back down to earth' after Moonraker was a good idea. Re-establishing the action-adventure orientation, with a healthy dash of Fleming, was a clear instance of what Bond in Skyfall describes as his hobby of "resurrection." Having said that, one can't help feeling the smaller scale of FYEO's climax when compared with the epic, explosive battles of the past (GF, TB, YOLT, OHMSS, TSWLM, MR).
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    really excellent post Shady Tree.

    A few comments:

    For me, Roger Moore in Moonraker was not as likable due to his know-it-all lines at the centrifuge and again identifying the rare orchid. I consider TSWLM, FYEO and AVTAK to be his finest work in the role. In fact, AVTAK would easily be his #1 except he was too old by that point.

    Concerning the tone of FYEO I would say it's actually less consistent than OP and AVTAK.
    Once I finally realized the tarzan yell fits Octopussy perfectly the whole movie kind of clicked as a rollicking Indiana Jones type jungle adventure.

    AVTAK is the coolest of the 80's Bond films with just the right combination of seriousness and humor much like TSWLM.

    FYEO suffers from dated clothing and music, whereas OP and AVTAK have a timeless quality about them.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
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