Is anybody else sick of the Connery comparisons?

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  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    My first Bond was FRWL, still my favorite, probably always will be. For me, Connery was the perfect balance, so i do tend to compare back to him.

    I think he is followed closely by Dalton. The hard edgy killer, thinly veiled by humor, sex and drink. I think that's where Brosnan was headed too. But I agree he was handicapped by his material. Brosnan's best Bond portrayal was GoldenEye, IMO. The scene on the beach, you see a bit of the torment he flays himself with. Alec refers to his burden of guilt, as well. Moore was enjoyable and I love most of his movies.

    For me tho, and I know I've said it before, I can't stand Craig. His one dimensional portrayal is only made worse by the numerous accolades he has undeservedly received. (IMHO)
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  • raptors_887raptors_887 CanadaPosts: 215MI6 Agent
    Sean Connery IS James Bond IMO and I grew up watching Brosnan and Craig before I even saw a Connery film. He just has that way about him. He played his roles perfectly.
    1: Casino Royale 2: Goldeneye 3: Skyfall 4: Octopussy 5: Goldfinger 6: Tomorrow Never Dies 7: The World Is Not Enough 8: The Living Daylights 9: From Russia With Love 10: The Spy Who Loved Me
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Yep!
    Sean Connery IS James Bond IMO and I grew up watching Brosnan and Craig before I even saw a Connery film. He just has that way about him. He played his roles perfectly.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • DelicatessenInSteelDelicatessenInSteel Posts: 181MI6 Agent
    I like all the Bonds, but I've always thought Pierce was the weakest due to his interpretation after Goldeneye and the weak weak scripts. But Connery was great... he was the template that all the others followed sometimes to their detriment. Roger Moore was the only one that went way different..that's why he's my favorite. The point is Connery could be **** just like the others, if someone says different tell them to watch Zardoz (which I love by the way) but just say that, that should shut them up.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I like all the Bonds, but I've always thought Pierce was the weakest due to his interpretation after Goldeneye and the weak weak scripts. But Connery was great... he was the template that all the others followed sometimes to their detriment. Roger Moore was the only one that went way different..that's why he's my favorite. The point is Connery could be **** just like the others, if someone says different tell them to watch Zardoz (which I love by the way) but just say that, that should shut them up.

    Connery was never "poo" as Bond. That's what's most important.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Connery was never "poo" as Bond. That's what's most important.
    +1 -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ZorinIndustriesZorinIndustries United StatesPosts: 837MI6 Agent
    Heehehe "poo" :))
    "Better luck next time... slugheads!"

    1. GoldenEye 2. Goldfinger 3. Skyfall 4. OHMSS 5. TWINE
  • davidelliott101davidelliott101 Posts: 165MI6 Agent
    Connery is without a doubt the benchmark. But I am tired of reviewers saying that each successive actor to play 007 is "the best Bond since Connery"
  • 007bond007bond Posts: 71MI6 Agent
    For me tho, and I know I've said it before, I can't stand Craig. His one dimensional portrayal is only made worse by the numerous accolades he has undeservedly received. (IMHO)

    You sir are a eejit

    One Dimensional, the man has given Bond a heart, when was the last time you said that. OHMSS was the last time you felt for Bond as a character. He plays Bond as human not as a damn superhero.He dragged this franchise from the ashes and has made it cool and mega successful again after years of Parody and OTT. He's by far country mile the best actor to play Bond and the only one to win awards for it.
  • 007bond007bond Posts: 71MI6 Agent
    I like all the Bonds, but I've always thought Pierce was the weakest due to his interpretation after Goldeneye and the weak weak scripts. But Connery was great... he was the template that all the others followed sometimes to their detriment. Roger Moore was the only one that went way different..that's why he's my favorite. The point is Connery could be **** just like the others, if someone says different tell them to watch Zardoz (which I love by the way) but just say that, that should shut them up.

    Connery was never "poo" as Bond. That's what's most important.

    Connery and Craig are the Bond you can stand by without been laughed at.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    007bond wrote:
    I like all the Bonds, but I've always thought Pierce was the weakest due to his interpretation after Goldeneye and the weak weak scripts. But Connery was great... he was the template that all the others followed sometimes to their detriment. Roger Moore was the only one that went way different..that's why he's my favorite. The point is Connery could be **** just like the others, if someone says different tell them to watch Zardoz (which I love by the way) but just say that, that should shut them up.

    Connery was never "poo" as Bond. That's what's most important.

    Connery and Craig are the Bond you can stand by without been laughed at.

    Agree, but I would add Dalton to the list.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    007bond wrote:

    Connery was never "poo" as Bond. That's what's most important.

    Connery and Craig are the Bond you can stand by without been laughed at.

    Agree, but I would add Dalton to the list.
    Yes, and I would add Brosnan to that. Even with the pain face & vampire bites! :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Richard--WRichard--W USAPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    Connery nailed the part so completely in his first outing that the comparisons are inevitable, especially because no one else has nailed the part, although Dalton came close.
    The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Agreed, Dalton was a Great Bond. -{
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I think it's unfair to compare Connery & Dalton; Connery did a fine job IMO. :007)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Richard--WRichard--W USAPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    The comparisons are relentless and never-ending.

    If Daniel Craig measured up, the comparisons would stop.

    Instead, the comparisons will keep coming in equal measure to his inadequacy.
    The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,109Chief of Staff
    No, that's untrue and unfair. Every single Bond actor has been compared to Connery, it's not unique to Craig.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    No, that's untrue and unfair. Every single Bond actor has been compared to Connery, it's not unique to Craig.

    Exactly! That one is a lower blow than usual from our friend Richard W.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,109Chief of Staff
    Richard W, you will have noticed that your reply to the above post has been deleted. This site is 100% in favour of free speech and the expressing of opinions, but pointless and factually incorrect flaming designed to provoke argument will not be tolerated.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Richard W, you will have noticed that your reply to the above post has been deleted. This site is 100% in favour of free speech and the expressing of opinions, but pointless and factually incorrect flaming designed to provoke argument will not be tolerated.
    Thank you Barbel. Hate for hate's sake is so boring.
    Dan ROCKS.
    And I am kind of sick of the Connery comparisons... each actor brought a unique take to the role, and NONE has done a bad job of it. Even Lazenby with his acting inexperience brought a 'smooth roughness' to the party that I enjoy.
    It's so much more fun talking about the interesting stuff.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Richard--WRichard--W USAPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    edited June 2013
    You might have left in the part where I said that all the actors who have played James Bond are fine with me, that I have no complaints about any of them until DC. Connery is Bond, pure and simple especially in the first two films. He lightens up in the third, loses a certain edge, but he still nails it. Roger Moore's casting is what I like best about his 007 films. When the films are falling apart in front of me, he's the glue that holds them together. His performances in The Man with the Golden Gun and For Your Eyes Only are particularly strong. The latter is a personal favorite. Timothy Dalton brought a sense of urgency and an underlying truth to the role that was like a breadth of fresh air in 1987. He captured an essence of the character from reading the books. I wish he'd had the chance to continue in the role. Pierce Brosnan surprised me. He acquitted himself well, and could have done better under different circumstances. "I never felt as if I'd nailed it" Brosnan said in an interview. The writing and directing let him down, as it did with Roger Moore. They were all good actors, and they each made a fine James Bond. The point is that they were all "playing the scene" as we say in drama. But Daniel Craig is playing something else.
    The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Richard--W wrote:
    You might have left in the part where I said that all the actors who have played James Bond are fine with me, that I have no complaints about any of them until DC. In fact Roger Moore's casting is what I like best about his 007 films. When the films are falling apart in front of me, he's the glue that holds them together. His performances in The Man with the Golden Gun and For Your Eyes Only are particularly strong. The latter is a personal favorite. Timothy Dalton brought a sense of urgency and an underlying truth to the role that was like a breadth of fresh air in 1987. He captured an essence of the character from reading the books. I wish he'd had the chance to continue in the role. Pierce Brosnan surprised me. He acquitted himself well, and could have done better under different circumstances. "I never felt as if I'd nailed it" Brosnan said in an interview. The writing and directing let him down, as it did with Roger Moore. The point is that they were all "playing the scene" as we say in drama. But Daniel Craig is playing something else.

    Craig has been "playing the scene" just fine, IMO.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Richard--W wrote:
    Daniel Craig is playing something else.
    It's another take on the character, one that you like less than I do is all. Don't watch his movies then. We get what we get. I'm not a fan of the latest Superman film, but I won't go on about all that I don't like about it because so many fans seem to like it fine. I'd rather talk about my fascinations than my *meh* reactions at this point. :D
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • davidelliott101davidelliott101 Posts: 165MI6 Agent
    I know I weighed in earlier, and I am tired of the "best Bond since Connery" comparisons on each actor since Moore, but the fact is Connery set the benchmark. It's like "the best Superman since Christopher Reeve" or some such similar comparison. It's just a fact of life, I guess. Whoever is cast in the part next will be compared to Connery.

    Fact is, Roger Moore played the part longer and was in more Bond films... maybe we should look for the best Bond since Moore!
  • Richard--WRichard--W USAPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Richard W, you will have noticed that your reply to the above post has been deleted. This site is 100% in favour of free speech and the expressing of opinions, but pointless and factually incorrect flaming designed to provoke argument will not be tolerated.

    I deny the accusations. It's true I don't like Daniel Craig and I think he's damaged the integrity of the franchise, but I have never flamed any member of this forum nor attacked anyone personally. I'm a grown up, and I don't do that. My comments are directed at the films and the filmmakers. My comments are always civil and in good taste even though they may sometimes be negative. I care very much about the Bond series and Ian Fleming's art. That motivates me. Nothing else.

    You have allowed flaming, however. When I asked minigeff to stop his personal insults and attacks in this thread

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/39984/observations-on-skyfall-spoilers/

    he continued to press them, and when I asked the moderator -- which I suppose was you? -- to intervene and stop him, my requests were ignored. So flaming is allowed on ABJ.
    The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Richard--W wrote:
    I deny the accusations. It's true I don't like Daniel Craig and I think he's damaged the integrity of the franchise, but I have never flamed any member of this forum nor attacked anyone personally.
    Ehhh, not entirely true IMO. I can agree with some of your points, but you can be fairly provocative.
    Not always a bad thing, I've been there myself, but you gotta respect other peep's opinions, even when then seem simplistic by your own aesthetic standards.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Richard--W wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Richard W, you will have noticed that your reply to the above post has been deleted. This site is 100% in favour of free speech and the expressing of opinions, but pointless and factually incorrect flaming designed to provoke argument will not be tolerated.

    I deny the accusations. It's true I don't like Daniel Craig and I think he's damaged the integrity of the franchise, but I have never flamed any member of this forum nor attacked anyone personally. I'm a grown up, and I don't do that. My comments are directed at the films and the filmmakers. My comments are always civil and in good taste even though they may sometimes be negative. I care very much about the Bond series and Ian Fleming's art. That motivates me. Nothing else.

    You have allowed flaming, however. When I asked minigeff to stop his personal insults and attacks in this thread

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/39984/observations-on-skyfall-spoilers/

    he continued to press them, and when I asked the moderator -- which I suppose was you? -- to intervene and stop him, my requests were ignored. So flaming is allowed on ABJ.

    I think part of the problem might be that you lose credibility when you go overboard with with your criticism. Okay, so you don't care for Craig's portrayal of Bond. Fair enough. But to claim that he has "damaged the integrity of the franchise"? Sorry, but it's hard to take you seriously after statements like that.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,109Chief of Staff
    Richard--W wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Richard W, you will have noticed that your reply to the above post has been deleted. This site is 100% in favour of free speech and the expressing of opinions, but pointless and factually incorrect flaming designed to provoke argument will not be tolerated.

    I deny the accusations. It's true I don't like Daniel Craig and I think he's damaged the integrity of the franchise, but I have never flamed any member of this forum nor attacked anyone personally. I'm a grown up, and I don't do that. My comments are directed at the films and the filmmakers. My comments are always civil and in good taste even though they may sometimes be negative. I care very much about the Bond series and Ian Fleming's art. That motivates me. Nothing else.

    You have allowed flaming, however. When I asked minigeff to stop his personal insults and attacks in this thread

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/39984/observations-on-skyfall-spoilers/

    he continued to press them, and when I asked the moderator -- which I suppose was you? -- to intervene and stop him, my requests were ignored. So flaming is allowed on ABJ.

    Richard--W
    Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. The point of my previous post was that you were being warned about your writings in this thread. Any other matters, please feel free to discuss by PM.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Richard--W wrote:

    he continued to press them, and when I asked the moderator -- which I suppose was you? -- to intervene and stop him, my requests were ignored. So flaming is allowed on ABJ.

    Huh, an eye for an eye?
    a teeth for a teeth?

    And you claim yourself commenting

    "always civil"
    "in good taste"

    Can't see much of that recently tbh.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • davidelliott101davidelliott101 Posts: 165MI6 Agent
    Oh my goodness, can we stop with this?
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