I could see that he was certainly trying his best but the fact he never had his back up agaisn't the wall like Connery and Craig had and the fact he was told he be Bond ever since 1981. He never had to fight or scrap for it or prove himself proved one of his downfalls for me cause he never never bought anything new to the role. He was Bond by Numbers. He had suave down pat but when it came to Bond's tough and dangerous side like Moore he totally lacked it. His Bond films are very Meh apart from Goldeneye which is a good solid Bond film.
He did bring Bond back to the masses and he does have his fans. But he will always be my least favourite Bond cause i never believed him in the role.
I could see that he was certainly trying his best but the fact he never had his back up agaisn't the wall like Connery and Craig had and the fact he was told he be Bond ever since 1981. He never had to fight or scrap for it or prove himself proved one of his downfalls for me cause he never never bought anything new to the role. He was Bond by Numbers. He had suave down pat but when it came to Bond's tough and dangerous side like Moore he totally lacked it. His Bond films are very Meh apart from Goldeneye which is a good solid Bond film.
He did bring Bond back to the masses and he does have his fans. But he will always be my least favourite Bond cause i never believed him in the role.
Interesting. I remember quite a few cold kills from Brosnan. The death of Electra King (I never miss), the death of the hitman in TND (I am just a professional doing my job. Me too) and the kill of the banker in the TWINE.
I thought Brosnan was quite the complete package to portray the Bond character. But like I stated before, he lacked really challenging material, something Craig and even Dalton did have.
Now I'm pondering if Tomorrow Never Dies is actually better than Goldeneye. Far superior pre-title sequence and no lectures about being politically correct!
Either way, I consider the first 3 Brosnan films to be top notch and they are all in my Top 10 ranking. Die Another Day is flawed, but still highly enjoyable.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
I could see that he was certainly trying his best but the fact he never had his back up agaisn't the wall like Connery and Craig had and the fact he was told he be Bond ever since 1981. He never had to fight or scrap for it or prove himself proved one of his downfalls for me cause he never never bought anything new to the role. He was Bond by Numbers. He had suave down pat but when it came to Bond's tough and dangerous side like Moore he totally lacked it. His Bond films are very Meh apart from Goldeneye which is a good solid Bond film.
He did bring Bond back to the masses and he does have his fans. But he will always be my least favourite Bond cause i never believed him in the role.
Interesting. I remember quite a few cold kills from Brosnan. The death of Electra King (I never miss), the death of the hitman in TND (I am just a professional doing my job. Me too) and the kill of the banker in the TWINE.
I thought Brosnan was quite the complete package to portray the Bond character. But like I stated before, he lacked really challenging material, something Craig and even Dalton did have.
I don't think he would have been capable for a CR or QOS. He just doesn't have that depth to him that Craig has. He had the suave side to him but lacked that dark edge that Connery and Dalton had and that Craig has in spades.
I like Brosnan... I gave a quick rundown of his films recently, but I haven't really watched them in a long time. I picked up the PB Collection on Blu Ray recently and watched one of the bonus features on the TWINE disc.
I think he tried to do a composite Bond... tried to bring the hard edge of Connery, the suaveness of Moore, the drama of Dalton and even something from Lazenby to the role AND tried to make Bond his own. I think TWINE is my favorite of his films, but I feel that his era seems like a continuation of the Moore era. Not much of a romp, but little things like straightening his tie underwater, the cliches (Casino scenes, helicopter buzzsaws, Xray glasses, his "Bond, James Bond" coming up out of the mine) are very Moore-ish to me.
I think the films needed a reboot in a way, but Brosnan could have done the Casino Royale film, just like Moore came off of Moonraker and then did FYEO. I would have liked to have seen him continue and done six or seven films.
I think he tried to do a composite Bond... tried to bring the hard edge of Connery, the suaveness of Moore, the drama of Dalton and even something from Lazenby to the role AND tried to make Bond his own. I think TWINE is my favorite of his films, but I feel that his era seems like a continuation of the Moore era.
I think this is exactly right. And even though he isn't the world's most talented actor he is fairly versatile so he was able to pull off most of the different elements effectively. But, as you imply, he always seemed a bit more natural with light comedy than with the darker stuff.
I think the films needed a reboot in a way, but Brosnan could have done the Casino Royale film, just like Moore came off of Moonraker and then did FYEO. I would have liked to have seen him continue and done six or seven films.
I don't think it would have been nearly as effective. It wouldn't have worked as a reboot, of course. But the heart of the story - Bond's relationship with Vesper - is that it's the first time he's ever been emotionally involved with a woman and the first time he's ever been hurt. I don't think we could buy that with Brosnan's Bond. After all, this is the man who had been in love with Paris, who tragically died because she caught between him and the villain; then fell in love with Electra, who was revealed to be a villain and betrayed him; and was then in a relationship with Rosamund, an MI6 agent who was revealed to be a traitor and then died. Plus it's implied that Brosnan's Bond was the same man who had been widowed on his wedding day. Not to mention being betrayed by his BFF Alec in GE. Brosnan played a Bond who was hurt and betrayed almost continuously.
I think SF is a film that could have actually worked for Brosnan's Bond in 2005. It was lighter than CR and QoS and would have played more to his strengths. Plus it would have suited an older, greyer, porkier Brosnan - a man who's been playing the game too long and has "lost a step."
Well, i used to rank D.A.D as the worst Bond film until I realized I was being way too harsh. After all, I loved it at the cinema back in 2002. (before I was a "hardcore" Bond fan)
It's not quite up to the high level of quality as Brosnan's first 3, but still great fun to watch. Seeing as how I flat out don't connect with the Daniel Craig films it has caused me to appreciate the Brosnan era even more.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
I could see that he was certainly trying his best but the fact he never had his back up agaisn't the wall like Connery and Craig had and the fact he was told he be Bond ever since 1981. He never had to fight or scrap for it or prove himself proved one of his downfalls for me cause he never never bought anything new to the role. He was Bond by Numbers. He had suave down pat but when it came to Bond's tough and dangerous side like Moore he totally lacked it. His Bond films are very Meh apart from Goldeneye which is a good solid Bond film.
He did bring Bond back to the masses and he does have his fans. But he will always be my least favourite Bond cause i never believed him in the role.
Interesting. I remember quite a few cold kills from Brosnan. The death of Electra King (I never miss), the death of the hitman in TND (I am just a professional doing my job. Me too) and the kill of the banker in the TWINE.
I thought Brosnan was quite the complete package to portray the Bond character. But like I stated before, he lacked really challenging material, something Craig and even Dalton did have.
I don't think he would have been capable for a CR or QOS. He just doesn't have that depth to him that Craig has. He had the suave side to him but lacked that dark edge that Connery and Dalton had and that Craig has in spades.
Brosnan would have played it differently than Craig, thats for sure. This would not have been a bad thing though. I think CR and QoS take it a bit too serious. Especially QoS.
Brosnan is not the world's best actor, but once again, to play Bond, you dont really have to be. And Brosnan can play with an edge, just watch the tailor pf panama. He plays evil Bond there, and kicks ass in it. A great underrated movie.
Brosnan is not the world's best actor, but once again, to play Bond, you dont really have to be. And Brosnan can play with an edge, just watch the tailor pf panama. He plays evil Bond there, and kicks ass in it. A great underrated movie.
Seeing as how I flat out don't connect with the Daniel Craig films it has caused me to appreciate the Brosnan era even more.
I feel like maybe I'm being mean by dismissing Die Another Day as unwatchable... I think I'll by a cheap copy to revisit..... -{
I watched DAD last night for the first time in a good while and I still rank very highly, It's just behind GE and CR now in my list. I love everything up to and including Iceland (even the infamous CGI ridden stuff) but I've got to admit that I usually switch it off after Bond saves Jinx life in the ice palace as even I admit that everything after that is utter crap.
If You dismiss the whole plane section at the climax I think it's very watchable and enjoyable as well :007)
....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
I do think that that's one of the strenghts of the Bond series.
There are so many styles of Bond films, Realistic, adventure &
Sci-fi. So if there is one or two you're not too fond of, there'll
be another couple coming along that you'll love.
I love the first half of DAD, the second is weaker but still
highly enjoyable in my opinion. After all there are times when you
just want to slump in front of the TV and be Entertained for a few
hours.
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I could see that he was certainly trying his best but the fact he never had his back up agaisn't the wall like Connery and Craig had and the fact he was told he be Bond ever since 1981. He never had to fight or scrap for it or prove himself proved one of his downfalls for me cause he never never bought anything new to the role. He was Bond by Numbers. He had suave down pat but when it came to Bond's tough and dangerous side like Moore he totally lacked it. His Bond films are very Meh apart from Goldeneye which is a good solid Bond film.
He did bring Bond back to the masses and he does have his fans. But he will always be my least favourite Bond cause i never believed him in the role.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
*four* with me
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
Interesting. I remember quite a few cold kills from Brosnan. The death of Electra King (I never miss), the death of the hitman in TND (I am just a professional doing my job. Me too) and the kill of the banker in the TWINE.
I thought Brosnan was quite the complete package to portray the Bond character. But like I stated before, he lacked really challenging material, something Craig and even Dalton did have.
1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
Either way, I consider the first 3 Brosnan films to be top notch and they are all in my Top 10 ranking. Die Another Day is flawed, but still highly enjoyable.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Ah good for you sir -{ . I like my Bond a bit more serious and kickass.
I don't think he would have been capable for a CR or QOS. He just doesn't have that depth to him that Craig has. He had the suave side to him but lacked that dark edge that Connery and Dalton had and that Craig has in spades.
I think he tried to do a composite Bond... tried to bring the hard edge of Connery, the suaveness of Moore, the drama of Dalton and even something from Lazenby to the role AND tried to make Bond his own. I think TWINE is my favorite of his films, but I feel that his era seems like a continuation of the Moore era. Not much of a romp, but little things like straightening his tie underwater, the cliches (Casino scenes, helicopter buzzsaws, Xray glasses, his "Bond, James Bond" coming up out of the mine) are very Moore-ish to me.
I think the films needed a reboot in a way, but Brosnan could have done the Casino Royale film, just like Moore came off of Moonraker and then did FYEO. I would have liked to have seen him continue and done six or seven films.
I think this is exactly right. And even though he isn't the world's most talented actor he is fairly versatile so he was able to pull off most of the different elements effectively. But, as you imply, he always seemed a bit more natural with light comedy than with the darker stuff.
I don't think it would have been nearly as effective. It wouldn't have worked as a reboot, of course. But the heart of the story - Bond's relationship with Vesper - is that it's the first time he's ever been emotionally involved with a woman and the first time he's ever been hurt. I don't think we could buy that with Brosnan's Bond. After all, this is the man who had been in love with Paris, who tragically died because she caught between him and the villain; then fell in love with Electra, who was revealed to be a villain and betrayed him; and was then in a relationship with Rosamund, an MI6 agent who was revealed to be a traitor and then died. Plus it's implied that Brosnan's Bond was the same man who had been widowed on his wedding day. Not to mention being betrayed by his BFF Alec in GE. Brosnan played a Bond who was hurt and betrayed almost continuously.
I think SF is a film that could have actually worked for Brosnan's Bond in 2005. It was lighter than CR and QoS and would have played more to his strengths. Plus it would have suited an older, greyer, porkier Brosnan - a man who's been playing the game too long and has "lost a step."
11- TB. 12- OP. 13- LALD. 14- TMWTGG. 15- FYEO. 16- YOLT. 17- TND. 18- QoS.
19- TWINE. 20- AVTAK. 21- MR. 22- DAF. 23- DAD.
You, my friend have got it spot on!
It's not quite up to the high level of quality as Brosnan's first 3, but still great fun to watch. Seeing as how I flat out don't connect with the Daniel Craig films it has caused me to appreciate the Brosnan era even more.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
Brosnan would have played it differently than Craig, thats for sure. This would not have been a bad thing though. I think CR and QoS take it a bit too serious. Especially QoS.
Brosnan is not the world's best actor, but once again, to play Bond, you dont really have to be. And Brosnan can play with an edge, just watch the tailor pf panama. He plays evil Bond there, and kicks ass in it. A great underrated movie.
1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
I watched DAD last night for the first time in a good while and I still rank very highly, It's just behind GE and CR now in my list. I love everything up to and including Iceland (even the infamous CGI ridden stuff) but I've got to admit that I usually switch it off after Bond saves Jinx life in the ice palace as even I admit that everything after that is utter crap.
If You dismiss the whole plane section at the climax I think it's very watchable and enjoyable as well :007)
There are so many styles of Bond films, Realistic, adventure &
Sci-fi. So if there is one or two you're not too fond of, there'll
be another couple coming along that you'll love.
I love the first half of DAD, the second is weaker but still
highly enjoyable in my opinion. After all there are times when you
just want to slump in front of the TV and be Entertained for a few
hours.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Part of my childhood. I miss that
" I don't listen to hip hop!"
Same here. Oh and how could I forget Valentin Zukovsky.
"Can't you just say hello like a normal person?"
Although I doubt we would have seen his character return after TWINE.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
" I don't listen to hip hop!"