Are Bond's clothes really practical for his line of work?

perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
Please do not get me wrong, I love the clothing in the James Bond movies and I know that Bond is also about style. I would love to afford at least one of the suits and the shoes are spectacular, especially the Islay's.

However, are they really practical? If you were sent to a Instanbul hotel room to recover a stolen drive, would you wear a $4000 suit and a pair of Tetburys?

50 years ago, men used to wear suits to work but If saw a guy wearing a $4000 suit with an earpierce I am going to know he is some sort of law enforcement officier.

I thought the action clothing in Casino Royale and Shanghai sequence were more practical.
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  • 00730073 COPPosts: 1,061MI6 Agent
    If you want a pretty accurate picture of what people in Bonds line of work would really wear today just watch a few episodes of "The Unit". Pay attention to the civilian clothing.
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  • Nick37Nick37 Posts: 270MI6 Agent
    That's a good question. Dr. No features Connery in attire suitable for espionage, like the casual clothes he wears on Crab Key. He's also dressed for the elements in "Thunderball". Dalton's Bond and Craig's Bond also favor casual clothes to suits when they're on the job, like Craig's polo and chinos in QOS and Dalton's similar attire in "TLD". Of all the Bonds, Dalton's and Craigs have definitely worn the most clothing suitable for their profession, I.E., out of the office. Connery and Brosnan are easily second on the list. Moore's Bond favored suits over casual, it seems, and Lazenby's was all over the place.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :)) I've always wondered about that!
    perdogg wrote:
    If you were sent to a Instanbul hotel room to recover a stolen drive, would you wear a $4000 suit and a pair of Tetburys?
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  • Le SamouraiLe Samourai Honolulu, HIPosts: 573MI6 Agent
    I, too, found it odd to see Bond running around on assignment in Turkey wearing an expensive suit. It struck me as jarring, considering Craig's Bond usually dresses more practically on assignment.

    I agree that Dalton and Craig, and to a lesser extent Connery, tend to dress most practically in the field. Actually, one of the things I like about the Craig Era is Bond's embrace of stylish casual clothes.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    I'm rather surprised that no-one's mentioned Roger Moore's infamous safari suits, crazy ties, flares and the lovely tweed suits with elbow pads!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Nick37Nick37 Posts: 270MI6 Agent
    Those outfits are more suited for the outdoors, but still, he tended to favor suits. Even in "LALD" When he rides the glider to Solitaire's, after he lands, he yanks off the pant covers and reverses the jacket to make a matching tan suit. Humorous, yes, practical in the field? Well.......

    One thing's for sure, Moore in a powder blue leisure suit and white tank top is a big no-no.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Nick37 wrote:
    Those outfits are more suited for the outdoors, but still, he tended to favor suits. Even in "LALD" When he rides the glider to Solitaire's, after he lands, he yanks off the pant covers and reverses the jacket to make a matching tan suit. Humorous, yes, practical in the field? Well.......

    One thing's for sure, Moore in a powder blue leisure suit and white tank top is a big no-no.

    Later also seen in the OP PTS and all inspired by Connery-Bond in the GF PTS!
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  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    What you wear on DUTY is dependent on the job your doing
    the skippers always used to moan you lads with your rolexs
    and Omegas if they get broke (they never did),on night duty
    i would wear Levis C and j suede chukkas and a black/white HUTCH
    jacket as in Starsky and ,day time 2 pc suit C+J shoes Jermyn st shirt tie
    hanky top pocket (never looked like plod) i was once famousley put in the drivers cab
    of a central line tube train and the driver was told take this man to where ever he wants to go
    the diver was flabbergasted at his new passenger, your not the police
    not with that suit shoes rolex ect so it was done and probably still is
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  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    perdogg wrote:
    Please do not get me wrong, I love the clothing in the James Bond movies and I know that Bond is also about style. I would love to afford at least one of the suits and the shoes are spectacular, especially the Islay's.

    However, are they really practical? If you were sent to a Instanbul hotel room to recover a stolen drive, would you wear a $4000 suit and a pair of Tetburys?

    50 years ago, men used to wear suits to work but If saw a guy wearing a $4000 suit with an earpierce I am going to know he is some sort of law enforcement officier.

    I thought the action clothing in Casino Royale and Shanghai sequence were more practical.

    Though the film opens with Bond entering the hotel to get the hard drive, we dont really know if that was his original destination. He could have been sent to Istanbul to meet with the head of the Istanbul section initially to try to figure out the location of the drive and or he could have had an equally formal meeting with some other goverment, security people in a situation that would have seemed totally proper to have been in a suit (embassy, expensive hotel, government office, etc). This would not have been shown as it wasn't necessary for the audience and would not be the slam opening you need for an action film. The hotel emergency could have arisen during this meeting or shortly after, requiring him to go directly there to investigate, giving him no time to change into more suitable action attire.
  • PPK packerPPK packer Posts: 45MI6 Agent
    The clothes should really "suit" the job, as said before.

    If the job calls for a suit, and money is no object, then why not wear a great one.

    I take a fair amount of flack from my team mates when I wear a $800 Hugo Boss suit and a Kenneth Cole tie during VIP protection duties. They drop $125 at Tip Top Tailors for the cheapest suit they can find and wear a clip-on tie, yes... a clip-on tie. But that's not my bag.

    I also wear my Rolex. Again, lots of flack. But, when I was on SWAT I wore it on hundreds of missions and it never broke, depite massive amounts of abuse and countless hours on the firearms range. Plus, it's insured.

    You only live once, why not do it with some style? Isn't that what our favourite character is doing...
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  • BodieBodie Posts: 211MI6 Agent
    Lets face it Bond has nothing to do with reality, Bond is to do with style. I imagine a spy would dress to blend in and not be noticed which is why you never see a website called The Suits of Jason Bourne.

    Bond has never been inconspicious - who would walk into a nightclub in South America or a Las Vegas casino wearing a white dinner jacket.

    Craig's Bond has dressed more for the occassion than any of his predecessors but he is still James Bond and Bond wears suits and ties for most occassions.

    Vesper said something along the lines of 'You wear that suit because thats how you imagine human being dress'.
  • HalconHalcon Zen TemplePosts: 487MI6 Agent
    I'm rather surprised that no-one's mentioned Roger Moore's infamous safari suits, crazy ties, flares and the lovely tweed suits with elbow pads!

    what??!!
    you speak out of context sir! X-(
    Sir Rog wore some of the best ensembles in the series. More 'adventureous'? sure! but it added a great element of style and fun to his movies. Anyways, he never ventured into 'what were they thinking?!' territory.

    The era of Sir Rog was influenced by a somewhat more extravant style, but compared to the contemporary flair, you can argue that Moore's suits and style were also conservative as they are now. (well, actually i never thought I'd see Bond in a button down shirt, that's ULTRA conservative bordering on nerdiness but anyways...)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Didn't Connery wear a "Safari Suit" during the PTS of DAF.
    Just as he strangles the girl with her Bikini top. :))
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Bond wearing his Tracksuit in AVTAK during the Lab Scene felt horribly out of place for Bond.
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  • HalconHalcon Zen TemplePosts: 487MI6 Agent
    Bond wearing his Tracksuit in AVTAK during the Lab Scene felt horribly out of place for Bond.

    Actually, you could argue that this ensemble was all the more 'practical' so as to facilitate a quick retreat. Recall how he had to high-tail it from Max's lab to escape and avoid being found out, this after tangling with some guards.

    Afterwards he runs out into the country then highjumps off an undetaching bridge onto the castle then jumps into bed and quickly sheds said Tracksuit just in time to be manhandled by Mayday.

    tough to see Rog do all this in his typical suit.
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    In the books, Bond’s dress was generally pedestrian though he maintained an individualized style and preference, but not just with his wardrobe but with all the creature comforts of his lifestyle. In that era I suppose, wearing a suit was expected of him whether or not he was a security agent (even as an everyman), but particularly the suit was normal wear in a government capacity and also considering the people of power in government an industry he encountered even in the most routine investigations.

    About the practical aspects of the job in the life of book Bond, in Risico while Bond is at the beach jogging a distance of over a mile to get away from some thugs, he gets hot, removes his tie and stuffs it in his pocket; sounds practical but it’s interesting how he visits the beach while dressed in his usual way in the first place, in a suit but I guess that would have been a normal sight back then.

    When Bond was first adapted for the screen the director, Terrence Young was largely instrumental in translating the stylish world of the books (if not Bond’s said “pedestrian” wardrobe) into a modern and novel version of the British gentleman. The suits, which interestingly were more smart and economically stylish vs. fancy and flamboyant, were a significant form of branding that identified and set Bond apart from the pack, and it continues to this day.
    Bodie wrote:
    Let’s face it Bond has nothing to do with reality, Bond is to do with style. I imagine a spy would dress to blend in and not be noticed which is why you never see a website called The Suits of Jason Bourne… Craig's Bond has dressed more for the occassion than any of his predecessors but he is still James Bond and Bond wears suits and ties for most occassions.

    Agreed, it’s all about style. However, Craig's extreme dressing down even though it was to better (pardon the pun), suit the occasion, reflected a more plausible agent in the real world, all that just made him more like Jason Bourne or Ethan Hunt and therefore doing that too much is not good. The rational for Bond’s grungy look at the start of CR was the Bond Begins premise, but it continued in QoS with the jeans and made me think that’s how it would be going forward, but thankfully it changed in SF.

    In QoS when Bond did wear a suit during the interrogation of Mr. White, he visibly stood out from the other Service agents in terms of style, but in SF he had that security personnel vibe even while suited, especially with the earpiece. In the book, The Bourne Identity, Jason Bourne underwent surgery to effect non-remarkable features that would allow his face to be forgotten in a crowd, literally a blunt instrument with a purpose. If James Bond is to become a “practical” agent to suit reality, then he can continue dressing that way, but if he’s to continue being James Bond, the wardrobe is part of the package.
    I'm rather surprised that no-one's mentioned Roger Moore's infamous safari suits, crazy ties, flares and the lovely tweed suits with elbow pads!

    Though Lazenby and Connery had a taste of the era, Moore had to "survive" during the fashion excesses of the 70's and his wardrobe IMO was a respectable interpretation of the time. After MR, however, he did use more practical dress to a dramatic extent, though the 70's suits gave such a lasting impression despite of the relaxed dressing; that's actually a good commentary about him in terms of lasting impressions of his tenure as Bond.
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
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