Thunderbird 2East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
This is a partial repeat of something I said a long time ago, with updates.
My own dinner suit / tux is a replica of Daniel Craig's Casino Royale one. - I went to a professional tailor to get it made. - Less that the Magnoli one in UK pricing. The tailors offered amazing bespoke quality, and style. They travel on a regular schedule to different UK cities. Sadly they no longer come to my area.
My suit fits me like a glove, and I had a fair bit of say in the sleeve width, number and position of the pockets and the feel of the cut.
- You won't get any of those things though an online purchase. No matter where you are in the world, if you can buy a suit, you will find a good tailor who can make what you want.
I dont see either the QOS or Skyfall tuxes as a classic style. The QoS one screams the sixties with its sleeve cuff add ons, and the cut of the Skyfall one is painfully tight like a skinny suit. Classic is timeless, and doesn't date. Ford's style is 1960's fashion chic. It looks great on Daniel Craig to a degree, but the cut is fashion trendy in style. - It dates. (The jacket he wore for the Skyfall premiere was not good.) Ironically, Mr Ford himself does seem to go for the classic style in the suits he wears himself.
The other problem is men's eveningwear should be uniformical, its the nature of male elegance. Black tie only has designer trends and fashion admonishments in chain retail circles to keep sales high, or A list actors who never wear the same suit twice. - Those of us who live in the real world, are better off (Ie, LOOK far better off) in the traditional style!
Finally, when choosing a suit style or look, remember to look in the mirror first. The suit you are wanting has to look good on you. Few of us look like the 007 actors. Chose a look that sells who you are. Choosing one that sells or emulates someone else, is selling yourself short!
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i frankly wish H&M would put out a shawl collar tuxedo. They did one when the they did the collab with Marni and they released a black shawl collar dinner jacket (which I bought) so it will do for any formal occasions but it just makes me hungrier for a navy one.
This is a partial repeat of something I said a long time ago, with updates.
My own dinner suit / tux is a replica of Daniel Craig's Casino Royale one. - I went to a professional tailor to get it made. - Less that the Magnoli one in UK pricing. The tailors offered amazing bespoke quality, and style. They travel on a regular schedule to different UK cities. Sadly they no longer come to my area.
My suit fits me like a glove, and I had a fair bit of say in the sleeve width, number and position of the pockets and the feel of the cut.
- You won't get any of those things though an online purchase. No matter where you are in the world, if you can buy a suit, you will find a good tailor who can make what you want.
I dont see either the QOS or Skyfall tuxes as a classic style. The QoS one screams the sixties with its sleeve cuff add ons, and the cut of the Skyfall one is painfully tight like a skinny suit. Classic is timeless, and doesn't date. Ford's style is 1960's fashion chic. It looks great on Daniel Craig to a degree, but the cut is fashion trendy in style. - It dates. (The jacket he wore for the Skyfall premiere was not good.) Ironically, Mr Ford himself does seem to go for the classic style in the suits he wears himself.
The other problem is men's eveningwear should be uniformical, its the nature of male elegance. Black tie only has designer trends and fashion admonishments in chain retail circles to keep sales high, or A list actors who never wear the same suit twice. - Those of us who live in the real world, are better off (Ie, LOOK far better off) in the traditional style!
Finally, when choosing a suit style or look, remember to look in the mirror first. The suit you are wanting has to look good on you. Few of us look like the 007 actors. Chose a look that sells who you are. Choosing one that sells or emulates someone else, is selling yourself short!
This is all excellent advice.
However, I disagree about the gauntlet cuffs on the QoS dinner suit screaming 60s. Sure, that detail was popular on Savile Row in the 1960s (and popular at the beginning of the 20th century) , but it the QoS dinner suit doesn't have a dated cut or dated proportions. A small detail like gauntlet cuffs doesn't change the essence of the suit. I think the only clothier that pushed gauntlet cuffs these days is Oscar Udeshi, but in the 80's they also appeared on Michael Douglas's sleeves in Wall Street, and he didn't look like he was wearing a 60's suit (gorge too low and lapels too wide).
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My own dinner suit / tux is a replica of Daniel Craig's Casino Royale one. - I went to a professional tailor to get it made. - Less that the Magnoli one in UK pricing. The tailors offered amazing bespoke quality, and style. They travel on a regular schedule to different UK cities. Sadly they no longer come to my area.
My suit fits me like a glove, and I had a fair bit of say in the sleeve width, number and position of the pockets and the feel of the cut.
- You won't get any of those things though an online purchase. No matter where you are in the world, if you can buy a suit, you will find a good tailor who can make what you want.
A little reference material!
http://www.blacktieguide.com/
http://www.mytuxedo.co.uk/ (For styles and ideas)
I dont see either the QOS or Skyfall tuxes as a classic style. The QoS one screams the sixties with its sleeve cuff add ons, and the cut of the Skyfall one is painfully tight like a skinny suit. Classic is timeless, and doesn't date. Ford's style is 1960's fashion chic. It looks great on Daniel Craig to a degree, but the cut is fashion trendy in style. - It dates. (The jacket he wore for the Skyfall premiere was not good.) Ironically, Mr Ford himself does seem to go for the classic style in the suits he wears himself.
The other problem is men's eveningwear should be uniformical, its the nature of male elegance. Black tie only has designer trends and fashion admonishments in chain retail circles to keep sales high, or A list actors who never wear the same suit twice. - Those of us who live in the real world, are better off (Ie, LOOK far better off) in the traditional style!
Finally, when choosing a suit style or look, remember to look in the mirror first. The suit you are wanting has to look good on you. Few of us look like the 007 actors. Chose a look that sells who you are. Choosing one that sells or emulates someone else, is selling yourself short!
This is all excellent advice.
However, I disagree about the gauntlet cuffs on the QoS dinner suit screaming 60s. Sure, that detail was popular on Savile Row in the 1960s (and popular at the beginning of the 20th century) , but it the QoS dinner suit doesn't have a dated cut or dated proportions. A small detail like gauntlet cuffs doesn't change the essence of the suit. I think the only clothier that pushed gauntlet cuffs these days is Oscar Udeshi, but in the 80's they also appeared on Michael Douglas's sleeves in Wall Street, and he didn't look like he was wearing a 60's suit (gorge too low and lapels too wide).