Was the Bond Forumula outdated in the 80's?

AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
When you think about all of the big Action Films that were coming out in that Decade, with Invincible Action Men portraying the Lead Characters. Was the Bond Formula looking stale compared to the newer Action Films of the Decade?
1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,489MI6 Agent
    It was in the late 80s, LTK was out of step with more Bondian fare like Lethal Weapon, Indy and the Last Crusade, and even Batman had a Bondian outlandishness, but LTK didn't. So I guess the formula wasn't out of touch, but it was perceived as passe with the likes of Die Hard and Speed around. So the hiatus was probably for the best.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Distorted HumorDistorted Humor Posts: 66MI6 Agent
    Well in the 1980s you had a good bond film (fyeo) a bad one (AVTAK) and the dalton films, which did try to change it up.
    I am not going to agree with this (but politely), as the 1980s bond films where mostly profitable and the two failures in the 1980s (AVTAK and LTK) where due to movie issues, AVTAK just wasn't that good (but it was profitable) and LTK is a good movie, but it actually broke the bond formula and was too dark for its time (If it was released in the 1990s it would of been a hit most likely.


    Actually, i think bond started getting stale around 2002-2004 with spy films like "Bourne" films that had the big action sequences, but with a fresher start. Didn't help that in 2002 you had the very good tight Bourne Identity, and the Bond film was DAD, which while not as bad as it reputation (the first half is a good flick, then it falls apart) made EoN make the choice that to change up the formula with CR.

    For example, Goldeneye (1995) is a very much a formula bond film, ranging from a Superweapon plot, big stunt sequences, and a battle at a secret base at the end. However it still was a rousing successes both critically and money wise.
    1 - GE, 2 - DN, 3 - CR, 4 - GF, 5 - FYEO, 6 - TLD, 7 - SF, 8 - FRWL, 9 - LALD, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - LTK, 12 - OP, 13 - YOLT, 14 - TB, 15 - MR, 16 - TWINE, 17 - OHMSS, 18 - TND, 19 - DAD, 20 - TMWTGG, 21 - AVTAK, 22 - DAF, 23 - QoS
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