Are their any bond movies you believe get a bad rep but you like

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  • KKwheelchairKKwheelchair BathurstPosts: 153MI6 Agent
    yes i admit Jaws was 100% not needed for moon raker but Lonsdale as Drax makes it up for me i think we was a great villain
    "You know what's great about you English Octopussy man I must seen that movie, Twice" -the simpsons
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I enjoy all of Jaws scenes in Moonraker with the exception of flapping wings in the PTS. In fact, I can't imagine Moonraker without Jaws...it's all part of the fun.

    Dolly is eehh unfortunate, but her screen time is so limited that I barely notice her. Just be happy for Jaws! :)
    Apparently his wife in real life is about the same size.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • KKwheelchairKKwheelchair BathurstPosts: 153MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I enjoy all of Jaws scenes in Moonraker with the exception of flapping wings in the PTS. In fact, I can't imagine Moonraker without Jaws...it's all part of the fun.

    Dolly is eehh unfortunate, but her screen time is so limited that I barely notice her. Just be happy for Jaws! :)
    Apparently his wife in real life is about the same size.
    yeah i have met him he said she is even shorter and originally she was meant to b a 7 foot 7 women but he thought that just wouldn't work well and then they tried so many short women but alot were scared of him
    "You know what's great about you English Octopussy man I must seen that movie, Twice" -the simpsons
  • KKwheelchairKKwheelchair BathurstPosts: 153MI6 Agent
    the first jaws scence i must agree was Necessary i just don't think there should have been a love interest for him mostly
    "You know what's great about you English Octopussy man I must seen that movie, Twice" -the simpsons
  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    I personally love TND, I think it's Pierce's best 007 movie but I think most people prefer Goldeneye or TWINE.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    edited March 2013
    I'm glad to see so many beginning to appreciate YOLT, an unfairly maligned entry in the series.
    Damn that Mike Meyers.
    I personally love TND, I think it's Pierce's best 007 movie but I think most people prefer Goldeneye or TWINE.
    Agreement here!!! {[] -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Dblpst
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    I'm glad to see so many beginning to appreciate YOLT, an unfairly maligned entry in the series.
    I also hate all the complaining about Connery's acting in YOLT i thought it was at least fine

    Too true, my friends, too true(BL, it's great how much we DO agree on, ain't it? When are we going for that pint? {[] ) I think YOLT is a fun movie. Actually the only parts I have trouble with in the whole movie is Donald Pleasence as Blofeld and SC as an Oriental(reminds me a little too much of John Wayne playing Genghis Khan!)

    Another movie that gets a bad rap, IMHO, is DAD. I know, I know, the tsunami surfing, the ice palace, the invisible car, blah, blah, blah. But there is also so much good about this film! The fencing fight alone is worth watching it for. The sheer level of personal hatred which G. Graves (real name escapes me at the moment)holds for Bond is palpable. Miranda Frost is gorgeous, as is Jinx. And a Henchman with diamond shrapnel stuck in his face? Are you kidding me? How cool is that?

    And really, why is an invisible car a problem? If the Top Gear tech lab can build a prototype IRL, why couldn't an imaginary Q branch? Or are we saying that an invisible car is less believable than a laser in a wristwatch(GE), a saw in a watch(LALD), or a rocket gun(YOLT)? Is an Ice Palace more unbelievable than a hollow volcano, or a hidden space station, or an underwater city? Is a solar laser harder to conceive of than a nuke in Fort Knox, or the solar laser from DAF, or an orchid based toxin wiping out the Human race, or any of the other OTT weapons we've seen Bond deal with?

    Is it more unbelievable or are we as an audience growing more jaded?
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    I think YOLT is a fun movie. Actually the only parts I have trouble with in the whole movie is Donald Pleasence as Blofeld and SC as an Oriental(reminds me a little too much of John Wayne playing Genghis Khan!)

    Now imagine if they'd blacked up Roger Moore in Live and Let Die... :o :))
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Is it more unbelievable or are we as an audience growing more jaded?
    I think it was the sheer preponderance of OTT stuff, especially after the car; it just seemed to dogpile on the story.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Is it more unbelievable or are we as an audience growing more jaded?
    I think it was the sheer preponderance of OTT stuff, especially after the car; it just seemed to dogpile on the story.

    I guess I just consider it a throwback to olden days, and appreciate it as such. I enjoy it every time I watch it. I know that it's corny, but I like it.
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    I think YOLT is a fun movie. Actually the only parts I have trouble with in the whole movie is Donald Pleasence as Blofeld and SC as an Oriental(reminds me a little too much of John Wayne playing Genghis Khan!)

    Now imagine if they'd blacked up Roger Moore in Live and Let Die... :o :))

    ROFL!!! :)) :)) :))
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I guess I just consider it a throwback to olden days, and appreciate it as such. I enjoy it every time I watch it. I know that it's corny, but I like it.
    If you can handle the uneven-ness of it, there IS much fun to be had with it. :007)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    i also really enjoy Die Another Day, but it deserves its bad reputation.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    i also really enjoy Die Another Day, but it deserves its bad reputation.
    Very objective of you!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Here, here, Rogue! It's highly likely that there are more Bond-related things about which we agree than those about which we disagree, and that's very cool! -{
    I'm glad to see so many beginning to appreciate YOLT, an unfairly maligned entry in the series.
    I also hate all the complaining about Connery's acting in YOLT i thought it was at least fine

    Too true, my friends, too true(BL, it's great how much we DO agree on, ain't it? When are we going for that pint? {[] ) I think YOLT is a fun movie. Actually the only parts I have trouble with in the whole movie is Donald Pleasence as Blofeld and SC as an Oriental(reminds me a little too much of John Wayne playing Genghis Khan!)

    Another movie that gets a bad rap, IMHO, is DAD. I know, I know, the tsunami surfing, the ice palace, the invisible car, blah, blah, blah. But there is also so much good about this film! The fencing fight alone is worth watching it for. The sheer level of personal hatred which G. Graves (real name escapes me at the moment)holds for Bond is palpable. Miranda Frost is gorgeous, as is Jinx. And a Henchman with diamond shrapnel stuck in his face? Are you kidding me? How cool is that?

    And really, why is an invisible car a problem? If the Top Gear tech lab can build a prototype IRL, why couldn't an imaginary Q branch? Or are we saying that an invisible car is less believable than a laser in a wristwatch(GE), a saw in a watch(LALD), or a rocket gun(YOLT)? Is an Ice Palace more unbelievable than a hollow volcano, or a hidden space station, or an underwater city? Is a solar laser harder to conceive of than a nuke in Fort Knox, or the solar laser from DAF, or an orchid based toxin wiping out the Human race, or any of the other OTT weapons we've seen Bond deal with?

    Is it more unbelievable or are we as an audience growing more jaded?
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    That's an interesting way to put it, and I think I agree.
    Firemass wrote:
    i also really enjoy Die Another Day, but it deserves its bad reputation.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    That's an interesting way to put it, and I think I agree.
    Firemass wrote:
    i also really enjoy Die Another Day, but it deserves its bad reputation.
    I've recently come to the realization that it's actually not the steaming pile so many say it is. It's really just the radical change in tone that I think puts most off. It starts as perhaps Brosnan's most serious movie, and ends being OTT comic-book action. More serious than MR's first half, yet nowhere near as silly as it last.
    I think now that it is THE most under-rated Bond movie presently.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I find most criticisms of Die Another Day to be right on point. However, the film is not a total loss and the good far outweighs the bad. Definitely a mixed bag, but as a Brosnan fan I find it most enjoyable. I grew up with PB as Bond so I have a soft spot for all 4 of his 007 films. I mean, it never even occurred to me that Tomorrow Never Dies might be "disliked" until I registered on AJB.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I mean, it never even occurred to me that Tomorrow Never Dies might be "disliked" until I registered on AJB.
    ME TOO!! Until I rediscovered Dalton, TND was my favourite Bond movie ever!
    An whoah, go to MI6 to see a whole new level of Brosnan hate; they (with enlightened individual exception) seem to think ALL his movies suck! :o :s :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    That's an interesting way to put it, and I think I agree.
    Firemass wrote:
    i also really enjoy Die Another Day, but it deserves its bad reputation.
    I've recently come to the realization that it's actually not the steaming pile so many say it is. It's really just the radical change in tone that I think puts most off. It starts as perhaps Brosnan's most serious movie, and ends being OTT comic-book action. More serious than MR's first half, yet nowhere near as silly as it last.
    I think now that it is THE most under-rated Bond movie presently.

    It seems to go in cycles. I remember when LTK came out and the popular opinion was that it was deeply flawed. Many critics, it seemed, wanted to jump on the band wagon and call it a failure. Then PB came along and "Resurrected" the franchise. When DAD was released it was hailed in the media as the Best Bond Ever. Now that EOS has gone with Craig in it's new direction, DAD is terrible and SF is the BBE. I'm not saying anybody here is falling for that kind of bandwagon mentality, but I do think DAD gets a bad rap.

    All I can say, therefore, is I cannot be called a professional critic, but I enjoy DAD from PTS to end credits.
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Really? I don't recall that being the reaction. I'm not saying it wasn't, I just don't remember it. (Of course, at my age I'm starting not to remember a lot of things!)
    When DAD was released it was hailed in the media as the Best Bond Ever.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Really? I don't recall that being the reaction. I'm not saying it wasn't, I just don't remember it. (Of course, at my age I'm starting not to remember a lot of things!)
    When DAD was released it was hailed in the media as the Best Bond Ever.
    From 2002:
    Die may not be the best James Bond film — how could it be, since Sean Connery isn't in it? But Pierce Brosnan, in his fourth time at bat, finally finds the right note of killer charm. And Halle Berry does wonders for a bikini, just like the one that almost covered Ursula Andress in the first Bond film, Dr. No. It's orgasm time for 007 freaks.

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/reviews/die-another-day-20030520#ixzz2NNHSE8xu
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    ...yet another unfair Connery prejudice in that Rolling Stone review. 8-)
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Well I certainly agree with this part of the review! :D
    chrisisall wrote:
    And Halle Berry does wonders for a bikini
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Well I certainly agree with this part of the review! :D
    chrisisall wrote:
    And Halle Berry does wonders for a bikini
    How did I see that coming? :)) :)) :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    Really? I don't recall that being the reaction. I'm not saying it wasn't, I just don't remember it. (Of course, at my age I'm starting not to remember a lot of things!)
    When DAD was released it was hailed in the media as the Best Bond Ever.

    Entertainment Weekly
    Owen Gleiberman
    91 The savviest and most exciting Bond adventure in years, and that's because there's actually something at stake in it.

    Film Threat
    Michael Dequina
    80 Brosnan's best mission as Bond yet, and the most satisfying installment of the franchise in recent memory.
    Film Threat
    ClintMorris

    80 The result is the niftiest Bond movie in years -- fresh, funny, and jammed to the rafters with demented stunts, Boys'-Own gadgetry and brazen promiscuity.

    Miami Herald
    Howard Cohen
    75 Amped to the max, with firepower and fisticuffs flying, this is Bond as we have come to know him in the post-Roger Moore years: bigger, badder, better

    And as I recall the TV spots were even more insistent.
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • Distorted HumorDistorted Humor Posts: 66MI6 Agent
    Just watched DaD, it was much better then I remembered.
    1 - GE, 2 - DN, 3 - CR, 4 - GF, 5 - FYEO, 6 - TLD, 7 - SF, 8 - FRWL, 9 - LALD, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - LTK, 12 - OP, 13 - YOLT, 14 - TB, 15 - MR, 16 - TWINE, 17 - OHMSS, 18 - TND, 19 - DAD, 20 - TMWTGG, 21 - AVTAK, 22 - DAF, 23 - QoS
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    A View to A Kill - it's not the worst Bond film by a long shot!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • KKwheelchairKKwheelchair BathurstPosts: 153MI6 Agent
    yes i quite like A view to a kill and i can't remember much of DAD
    "You know what's great about you English Octopussy man I must seen that movie, Twice" -the simpsons
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