Was Silva a wasted oppurtunity
scottmu65
Carlisle, Cumbria, UKPosts: 402MI6 Agent
Silva was a great villain but I think they could of taken the character in a whole different direction, the possible re-introduction of one Ernst Stavro Blofeld. I know it's been discussed to death, and I am certainly not saying this is what they SHOULD have done but I am saying that if they were to reintroduce the character then this would of been how I would want them to do it.
Imagine the scene where Silva is being held in a glass prison cell in MI6's temporary headquarters, we have already learned that he is a figure from M's past, an ex-agent, abandoned by M and presumed dead, then M walk's in with Bond to meet him face to face, then when Silva gets upset and tells M to use his real name she utters. "...Ernst..." and as well as removing his false teeth he pulls off his hair that we know now is a wig then rubs his face smearing off make-up that reveals a scar across his eye and it turns out rather than cyanide he was tortured of burnt or something that resulted in his appearance.
I just think that it would of been a great introduction and back-story to a familiar character. I loved Silva as a villain and I understand that it is too late for any of this but I want to know what other people think about this or if they have any other opinions on whether or not Silva could of been changed/improved Blofeld or otherwise.
Imagine the scene where Silva is being held in a glass prison cell in MI6's temporary headquarters, we have already learned that he is a figure from M's past, an ex-agent, abandoned by M and presumed dead, then M walk's in with Bond to meet him face to face, then when Silva gets upset and tells M to use his real name she utters. "...Ernst..." and as well as removing his false teeth he pulls off his hair that we know now is a wig then rubs his face smearing off make-up that reveals a scar across his eye and it turns out rather than cyanide he was tortured of burnt or something that resulted in his appearance.
I just think that it would of been a great introduction and back-story to a familiar character. I loved Silva as a villain and I understand that it is too late for any of this but I want to know what other people think about this or if they have any other opinions on whether or not Silva could of been changed/improved Blofeld or otherwise.
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I see what you are saying, my theory/idea would of obviously given Blofeld an entirely new backstory/identity for the new age of Bond, I imagine if this had happened then instead of him dying at the end of the film at the hands of Bond, as he is about to kill M, Bond could of intervened by knocking Silva out for a few moments, then we see Bond watching M die, all the while Silva/Blofeld awakens, witnesses this and at the same time concedes defeat and slips away unnoticed and this could of paved the way for Blofeld swearing revenge on Bond for his years of planning to kill M by his own hands and likewise with Bond wanting revenge for M's death thus making them sworn enemies.
Just thoughts of course. I was perfectly happy with how Skyfall ended, just want to see more of Javier Bardem!
very wasted. i did enjoy the scene in QoS when bond went to visit, a good rapour could have been built in future films, mathis could ! have been put in place instead of kincade,
When you say 'paved the way for Blofeld swearing revenge' do you mean as a prelude to the 60's Bonds or for future Bonds? I can never tell what peoples views are on the reboot/timeline/craig era are because everyone differs
I don't view the reboot series as prequels to any of the other films or stories, that 'timeline' (if you can call it that) ended after Die Another Day. The reboot is completely seperate.
In that case a return of Blofeld, or at least a recurring 'larger than life' villain would be more than welcome
Back on topic though, I think they pretty much hit the nail on the head with Silva. He got a lot of praise character wise and Bardem got a lot of praise for his portrayal. There are many villains in the series who could be reoccuring and it would work. Mr. White for example I think would have made a better Blofeld than Silva.
I sort of agree with what you are saying, there are very few Blofeld portrayals that I actually like.
But they could do him justice this time? :007) Maybe.. Either way i don't see it happening, Austin Powers put the last nail in the coffin really
With the series "Sherlock" they did a great job at giving the audience a
very modern Moriarty. -{
Excellent point. Although I think the cat is a must...
Seriously though I just want to see more Javier Bardem in Bond, terrific performance!
nobody is slagging Skyfall, and I did say at the beginning that Silva was a great villain and the point was that Silva was just an alias so I thought it would be an interesting idea if the man behind Silva was actually an updated Blofeld, plus that way we get to see more of Javier Bardem in the Bond universe.
Yes, but Silva's dead, as is Blofeld. Why not just create new characters and make it more interesting. That's my point. 8-)
Exactly, Jedi. Well said. i'm in total agreement - Blofeld is a mere pipe dream that should have been done much better than he was in the original classic Bond films.
It seems one of the largest challenges for the producers/writers at this point, is, because there is becoming less and less a sense of chronology and order of events, how do you keep the series "going", but without adding anything to the plot that could complicate or limit the plots of future movies.
The series seems to be heading to the era of the Sean Connery movies, (Mallory's office is based on Bernard Lee's, and we don't have a sense of how old/experienced Bond is in the glory of the Sean Connery era.
If Silva was to be a prelude to Blofeld, that's saying that the events in Skyfall took place before the Sean Connery movies.
Unlike most people, I didn't care so much for Silva. I think other villians from past movies are more of a wasted opportunity. Alec Trevelyn for example - one of my favourite characters in the series, could have appeared in Skyfall, or other films (assuming that the events occur before Goldeneye), as an ally to Bond on another mission (something comparable to the botched chase scene in Madagascar in CR, rather than "carter").
Overall, I just think Silva is "memorable" or "iconic" enough to keep alive/as a prelude to a villain in the future.
"...It was the job we were chosen for"...
Better to let sleeping dogs lie.
I only hope they would stick with Quantum.
As for the topic, I really think Silva was a great addition to the villain list of James Bond. Maybe not as memorable as some of the others but still up there with them.
1: Brosnan 2: Craig 3: Moore 4: Dalton 5: Connery and 6: Lazenby
Remember M said orphans make the best agents? Silva was probably an orphan too, wasn't he? And he really did see M as his 'mother'. Which I think, is why he wanted her to say his name - a sign of ownership or adoption. It must have broke his heart, when she refused. And that she has already written him off as dead (name engraved on the memorial wall).
In the end, he wanted to die along with her too.
Sigh... Sad sad sad...
Yeah but upon being captured by the enemy in that line of work, your government will deny your existence. The operatives know this when they join. Bond does it in DAD. He was tortured in many ways and still never gave up anything.
"Greatness From Small Beginnings."
Silva is intimidating, terrifying and uses the extent of his power to make people suffer and get what he wants.
And Silva actually had a more convincing reason to hate MI6 and become a terrorist. His life was actually ruined by M.
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