Watched AVTAK yesterday and the bit where Zorin sets fire to the city hall. He throws a molotov in the fire exit. The fire exit presumably would've had sprinklers installed and would've went off. This turns out to be true and the fire in the fire exit is put out. For a supposedly super intelligent being, Zorin really dropped a bollock with this!
Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"
In TWINE, when Bond gets on the plane and is pretending to be Arkov, the Russian guys who are on the plane stop Bond and ask "Did you bring it? The grease? Excellent."
In TWINE, when Bond gets on the plane and is pretending to be Arkov, the Russian guys who are on the plane stop Bond and ask "Did you bring it? The grease? Excellent."
In TWINE, when Bond gets on the plane and is pretending to be Arkov, the Russian guys who are on the plane stop Bond and ask "Did you bring it? The grease? Excellent."
Is this about the sneakers or something else?
I tried to google this one. Apparently "grease" is slang for "bribe"
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My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Roger Moore's IQ alternates from above-average to exceptional genius in every other film. I wonder why they weren't more consistent.
LALD- Above average IQ
TMWTGG - Genius (photographic memory of Scaramanga's dossier and indepth knowledge of solar operation)
TSWLM - Above average IQ (He did recall the name of the fish, but it's probable he was studying marine biology prior to that visit)
MR- Genius (Let me see the chemical formula for that plant. Also knew about the missionary recovering the orchid)
FYEO- Above average IQ
OP- Genius (Knows all the details about the Faberge egg)
AVTAK - Above average IQ
Everyone has their area of expertise. Bond can't know everything. Like how in Moonraker he knows a lot about the space shuttle and about the orchid, but he doesn't know how to fly a space shuttle. I liked it when Bond was obnoxious about his knowledge. It started with the Nymphalis polychloros in OHMSS. But sometimes it was refreshing to hear there was a subject he wasn't an expert on.
(It's not Admiral Farrell, as he is dead on the Manticore).
Film: Tomorrow Never Dies | Girl: Teresa di Vicenzo | Villain: Max Zorin | Car: Aston Martin Volante | Novel: You Only Live Twice | Bond: Sir Sean Connery
Makes no effort to explain the plot twist of how 006 survived being shot in the PTS. Bond doesn't even wonder or bother to ask him. The filmmakers even went out of the way to show that Orumov's gun was not firing blanks. (When he shoots one of his own men)
Why does M immediately suspect Janus?
M's office is way different than the one from the 80's, so I doubt any of Robert Brown's personal items are still in a drawer.
Bond orders his drink. Xenia orders the same. Why would the waiter pause for additional instructions? Is there more to be said? Apprently because she ends up getting a vodka martini shaken not stirred straight up with a twist. Can someone explain what that is exactly? I think she leaves before it's delivered. Poor bartenders.
Xenia probably should have used a silencer when she shoots both the helicopter pilots.
The Admiral look-a-like pilot is never actually seen on camera despite being a major player in the Janus scheme. It would have been cool if he re-appeared later in Cuba or something. He must have quit while he was ahead.
Why does Bond stop his tank to smash the police cars behind him? I doubt he would be able to see or hear them in the first place. Plus, why risk damage to the tank? The back engine compartment is not heavily armored.
Natalya lying down in the elevator. How long were they going to wait to see if a guard came over?
Natalya screaming in the helicopter is super annoying. And this is coming from a Stacy Sutton fan.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
The biggest flaw in James Bond movies is also it greatest strength and indeed SOLE reason for continuing to exist as a viable series....
wait for it....
There has never been a perfect James Bond film.
Yes, there's FRWL, GF, and some would argue a few others, but no Bond film was ever so spectacularly & singularly excellent in all cinematic aspects that it by definition of its supreme excellence puts all others to shame. The death of a film series is when it makes 'the perfect' film out of the gate and the sequels become poor copies and/or obvious cash grabs as they go on.
The books were like this as well... evolving and imperfect... much of their charm is in the pulp fiction aspect...
If any Bond film were to win an Oscar for best picture, the end of the franchise would be mere years away.
Makes no effort to explain the plot twist of how 006 survived being shot in the PTS. Bond doesn't even wonder or bother to ask him. The filmmakers even went out of the way to show that Orumov's gun was not firing blanks. (When he shoots one of his own men)
Why does M immediately suspect Janus?
M's office is way different than the one from the 80's, so I doubt any of Robert Brown's personal items are still in a drawer.
Bond orders his drink. Xenia orders the same. Why would the waiter pause for additional instructions? Is there more to be said? Apprently because she ends up getting a vodka martini shaken not stirred straight up with a twist. Can someone explain what that is exactly? I think she leaves before it's delivered. Poor bartenders.
Why does Bond stop his tank to smash the police cars behind him? I doubt he would be able to see or hear them in the first place. Plus, why risk damage to the tank? The back engine compartment is not heavily armored.
Natalya lying down in the elevator. How long were they going to wait to see if a guard came over?
Natalya screaming in the helicopter is super annoying. And this is coming from a Stacy Sutton fan.
I'm confused about Boris's motivation to betray Natalya and the workers. Nothing is explained and there is no build up.
Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"
The death of a film series is when it makes 'the perfect' film out of the gate
But this contradicts your "Dr. No is the perfect Bond film" theory.
I like to think of little niggles as a form of flattery, rather than criticism, because it shows that fans are still intently watching these films like 50 years later. Bond films are immortal and will never be forgotten.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
The death of a film series is when it makes 'the perfect' film out of the gate
But this contradicts your "Dr. No is the perfect Bond film" theory.
No, because DN was a bit crude, with bad rear projection, a middling musical score, a limited budget, and a simple model demolished in the end with a single camera view.
If these had all been corrected, then the Bond movies might not have lasted as long as they have.
They might have burned out by the mid-70's.
My idea that DN is the 'perfect' Bond movie is subjective, and in no way includes the larger public opinion of the movies in the franchise.
The death of a film series is when it makes 'the perfect' film out of the gate
But this contradicts your "Dr. No is the perfect Bond film" theory.
No, because DN was a bit crude, with bad rear projection, a middling musical score, a limited budget, and a simple model demolished in the end with a single camera view.
If these had all been corrected, then the Bond movies might not have lasted as long as they have.
They might have burned out by the mid-70's.
My idea that DN is the 'perfect' Bond movie is subjective, and in no way includes the larger public opinion of the movies in the franchise.
I think a Bond movie can be a perfect Bond movie but not necessarily a perfect movie. Bond movies have set their own stanards.
Makes no effort to explain the plot twist of how 006 survived being shot in the PTS. Bond doesn't even wonder or bother to ask him. The filmmakers even went out of the way to show that Orumov's gun was not firing blanks. (When he shoots one of his own men)
Why does M immediately suspect Janus?
M's office is way different than the one from the 80's, so I doubt any of Robert Brown's personal items are still in a drawer.
Bond orders his drink. Xenia orders the same. Why would the waiter pause for additional instructions? Is there more to be said? Apprently because she ends up getting a vodka martini shaken not stirred straight up with a twist. Can someone explain what that is exactly? I think she leaves before it's delivered. Poor bartenders.
Why does Bond stop his tank to smash the police cars behind him? I doubt he would be able to see or hear them in the first place. Plus, why risk damage to the tank? The back engine compartment is not heavily armored.
Natalya lying down in the elevator. How long were they going to wait to see if a guard came over?
Natalya screaming in the helicopter is super annoying. And this is coming from a Stacy Sutton fan.
I'm confused about Boris's motivation to betray Natalya and the workers. Nothing is explained and there is no build up.
Janus hired Boris and probably paid him a lot of money to betray his friends. It's a fairly standard reason and maybe the writers thought they would be insulting the viewers if they felt the need to explain it.
I think a Bond movie can be a perfect Bond movie but not necessarily a perfect movie. Bond movies have set their own standards.
Subjectively DN, FRWL, GF, TLD & LTK are 'perfect'.
But that's me, a crazy fan of Bond movies, and a fan of Fleming.
No one who's not a fan will ever rate a Bond film made thus far as world-shaking cinema.
The biggest flaw in James Bond movies is also it greatest strength and indeed SOLE reason for continuing to exist as a viable series....
wait for it....
There has never been a perfect James Bond film.
Yes, there's FRWL, GF, and some would argue a few others, but no Bond film was ever so spectacularly & singularly excellent in all cinematic aspects that it by definition of its supreme excellence puts all others to shame. The death of a film series is when it makes 'the perfect' film out of the gate and the sequels become poor copies and/or obvious cash grabs as they go on.
The books were like this as well... evolving and imperfect... much of their charm is in the pulp fiction aspect...
If any Bond film were to win an Oscar for best picture, the end of the franchise would be mere years away.
I think that you are right.For me FRWL does indeed come very close as does OHMSS save for the dubbing and the Kilt...CR is also damn near perfect. Most are a patchwork of elements of varying success. I enjoy them as much for their flaws.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
I know that it was only ever going to be a dummy that was going to be ejected from Zorin's blimp but they could at least of made it so that it's arms legs didn't bend the wrong ways. Or perhaps as an after thought, they could've somehow let the audience know that he was double jointed, lol.
Also, it's totally rubbish dubbing the way he complains about Zorin's fee. It just sounds and looks stupid.
Casino Royale: why the hell does Bond end up shooting Mollaka instead of just escaping with him when he gets the chance? He acknowledged that they needed him alive at the snake fight when they were tracking him.... it just felt kinda forced.
And I can't believe that Bond has a career after his face was plastered all over the press..... and said plastering is another thing I can't believe! I'm assuming a ticked off employee at that embassy leaked the footage?
I can't locate the thread about the 48 hour deadline, so I'll just make a little comment about it here. It's emphasized that Bond has 48 hours to investigate, but the film takes place over 4 days at least. For example, when Bond arrives at the US airbase in China he says he got the encoder "yesterday morning in Hamburg"
Day 1: Crashing Carver's Party. It's time for a station break. Paris visits him later that night.
Day 2: Steals encoder from Carver's safe. BMW car chase. Finds Paris dead.
Day 3: Arrives at the airbase. Halo jumps to Devonshire. Gets captured and then later escapes on motorcycle.
Day 4: Teams up with Wai Lin to attack the stealth boat.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my best guess at the timeline.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Day 1: Crashing Carver's Party. It's time for a station break. Paris visits him later that night.
Day 2: Steals encoder from Carver's safe. BMW car chase. Finds Paris dead.
Arrives at the airbase. Halo jumps to Devonshire. Gets captured and then later escapes on motorcycle. Teams up with Wai Lin to attack the stealth boat.
Night of 2nd day begins to fall... (FULL day, eh?)
You missed the bit about Bond saying "yesterday morning" at the airbase. By your timeline that would mean he stole the encoder prior to crashing Carver's party which obviously wasn't the case.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
The end of the film on he stealth ship is the end of the 48 hours as the fleet is there. Vietnam is what, 8-10 hours ahead of the U.K.? So after Bond had left Hamburg, it would have to be dark in Vietnam by the time he gets there, so it has to be 3 days. Remember, the motorcycle chase, teaming up with Wai Lin and on the stealth ship all happen in one evening, as the motorcycle chase leads Bond to Wai Lin's base to send the messages and then they get on the stealth ship.
Who was Gogol sitting in a different car to follow Pola in AVTAK? If Bond wasn't there, what would have happened? Pola and the other Russian agent would have driven somewhere, be followed by Gogol, then stop and they all get in the same car? The only reason Gogol would have to follow them would be becaus she had to lose Bond somewhere, which Gogol wouldn't have been expecting as they didn't know Bond was there.
Basically, Gogol should have been waiting to pick her up at the bay, not follow her to a hotel he didn't know she would go to!
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" I don't listen to hip hop!"
Is this about the sneakers or something else?
"Better make that two."
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
"Better make that two."
I tried to google this one. Apparently "grease" is slang for "bribe"
?
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
LALD- Above average IQ
TMWTGG - Genius (photographic memory of Scaramanga's dossier and indepth knowledge of solar operation)
TSWLM - Above average IQ (He did recall the name of the fish, but it's probable he was studying marine biology prior to that visit)
MR- Genius (Let me see the chemical formula for that plant. Also knew about the missionary recovering the orchid)
FYEO- Above average IQ
OP- Genius (Knows all the details about the Faberge egg)
AVTAK - Above average IQ
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Everyone has their area of expertise. Bond can't know everything. Like how in Moonraker he knows a lot about the space shuttle and about the orchid, but he doesn't know how to fly a space shuttle. I liked it when Bond was obnoxious about his knowledge. It started with the Nymphalis polychloros in OHMSS. But sometimes it was refreshing to hear there was a subject he wasn't an expert on.
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(It's not Admiral Farrell, as he is dead on the Manticore).
He looks a bit like Admiral Farrell.
One of my major niggles. He looks way too much like the admiral.
"Better make that two."
Makes no effort to explain the plot twist of how 006 survived being shot in the PTS. Bond doesn't even wonder or bother to ask him. The filmmakers even went out of the way to show that Orumov's gun was not firing blanks. (When he shoots one of his own men)
Why does M immediately suspect Janus?
M's office is way different than the one from the 80's, so I doubt any of Robert Brown's personal items are still in a drawer.
Bond orders his drink. Xenia orders the same. Why would the waiter pause for additional instructions? Is there more to be said? Apprently because she ends up getting a vodka martini shaken not stirred straight up with a twist. Can someone explain what that is exactly? I think she leaves before it's delivered. Poor bartenders.
Xenia probably should have used a silencer when she shoots both the helicopter pilots.
The Admiral look-a-like pilot is never actually seen on camera despite being a major player in the Janus scheme. It would have been cool if he re-appeared later in Cuba or something. He must have quit while he was ahead.
Why does Bond stop his tank to smash the police cars behind him? I doubt he would be able to see or hear them in the first place. Plus, why risk damage to the tank? The back engine compartment is not heavily armored.
Natalya lying down in the elevator. How long were they going to wait to see if a guard came over?
Natalya screaming in the helicopter is super annoying. And this is coming from a Stacy Sutton fan.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
The biggest flaw in James Bond movies is also it greatest strength and indeed SOLE reason for continuing to exist as a viable series....
wait for it....
There has never been a perfect James Bond film.
Yes, there's FRWL, GF, and some would argue a few others, but no Bond film was ever so spectacularly & singularly excellent in all cinematic aspects that it by definition of its supreme excellence puts all others to shame. The death of a film series is when it makes 'the perfect' film out of the gate and the sequels become poor copies and/or obvious cash grabs as they go on.
The books were like this as well... evolving and imperfect... much of their charm is in the pulp fiction aspect...
If any Bond film were to win an Oscar for best picture, the end of the franchise would be mere years away.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
I'm confused about Boris's motivation to betray Natalya and the workers. Nothing is explained and there is no build up.
" I don't listen to hip hop!"
But this contradicts your "Dr. No is the perfect Bond film" theory.
I like to think of little niggles as a form of flattery, rather than criticism, because it shows that fans are still intently watching these films like 50 years later. Bond films are immortal and will never be forgotten.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
If these had all been corrected, then the Bond movies might not have lasted as long as they have.
They might have burned out by the mid-70's.
My idea that DN is the 'perfect' Bond movie is subjective, and in no way includes the larger public opinion of the movies in the franchise.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
I think a Bond movie can be a perfect Bond movie but not necessarily a perfect movie. Bond movies have set their own stanards.
Janus hired Boris and probably paid him a lot of money to betray his friends. It's a fairly standard reason and maybe the writers thought they would be insulting the viewers if they felt the need to explain it.
But that's me, a crazy fan of Bond movies, and a fan of Fleming.
No one who's not a fan will ever rate a Bond film made thus far as world-shaking cinema.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
I think that you are right.For me FRWL does indeed come very close as does OHMSS save for the dubbing and the Kilt...CR is also damn near perfect. Most are a patchwork of elements of varying success. I enjoy them as much for their flaws.
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Also, it's totally rubbish dubbing the way he complains about Zorin's fee. It just sounds and looks stupid.
And I can't believe that Bond has a career after his face was plastered all over the press..... and said plastering is another thing I can't believe! I'm assuming a ticked off employee at that embassy leaked the footage?
I can't locate the thread about the 48 hour deadline, so I'll just make a little comment about it here. It's emphasized that Bond has 48 hours to investigate, but the film takes place over 4 days at least. For example, when Bond arrives at the US airbase in China he says he got the encoder "yesterday morning in Hamburg"
Day 1: Crashing Carver's Party. It's time for a station break. Paris visits him later that night.
Day 2: Steals encoder from Carver's safe. BMW car chase. Finds Paris dead.
Day 3: Arrives at the airbase. Halo jumps to Devonshire. Gets captured and then later escapes on motorcycle.
Day 4: Teams up with Wai Lin to attack the stealth boat.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my best guess at the timeline.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Day 2: Steals encoder from Carver's safe. BMW car chase. Finds Paris dead.
Arrives at the airbase. Halo jumps to Devonshire. Gets captured and then later escapes on motorcycle. Teams up with Wai Lin to attack the stealth boat.
Night of 2nd day begins to fall... (FULL day, eh?)
That's my take on it. B-)
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
You missed the bit about Bond saying "yesterday morning" at the airbase. By your timeline that would mean he stole the encoder prior to crashing Carver's party which obviously wasn't the case.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
That's all I got. 8-)
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
"Better make that two."
Also, here's the topic you were looking for:
http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/46352/tnd-takes-place-over-2-days/
Basically, Gogol should have been waiting to pick her up at the bay, not follow her to a hotel he didn't know she would go to!