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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Recently watched Dr No and something has occurred to me, regarding No, himself.

    Why does he speak with a RP accent, if he's supposed to be Chinese/German? When he's describing his journey to becoming involved with SPECTRE, he doesn't mention spending time in England, so the accent is confusing.

    Joseph Wiseman is Canadian, but he was a Shakespearian actor and he would've had training to lose his Canadian accent. But it doesn't explain his accent in the film.

    Why do so many of the characters in the Bond films have accents that don't quite fit the characters? No is a refined person who speaks English, so RP isn't completely out of place. The way he speaks doesn't sound exactly like a British prince either. I'd say he sounds more mid-Atlantic. It's the kind of accent that is easy to understand and sounds refined, but it can't be placed anywhere. Nikki van der Zyl and Robert Rietty had that similar kind of thing where the accents that they used could never really be placed. It's an old-fashioned thing about acting. My orchestra teacher in school had one of those fake accents so she wouldn't sound like she was from New York City.
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Just watched FYEO on blu-ray. Not one of my favorites, but certainly has some great parts.

    Little niggles:

    1. Guy in pink jacket seated behind Kristatos looks exactly like Colombo. Is it??

    2. Why bother to show Gogol having an office romance?

    3. Motorcyclist crashing thru a window while wearing a helmet would probably not die.

    4. Did we really need a big fat Greek wedding scene before an equally pointless meeting with Q?

    5. Russians will send a helicopter, but Bond has to climb it!? Maybe he could have asked Q for a jetpack.

    6. Bibi says "Hurry up or I'll leave without you." Brink replies, "I will never leave you."
    Brink's reply makes no sense. Bibi was obviously not concerned about being abandonded.

    7. How did Colombo's warehouse raid prove anything to Bond prior to the first shots being fired?

    8. Bond's last carabiner coming loose looks a bit dodgy like a stop-motion technique.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,080Chief of Staff
    4. Yes, Michael G. Wilson has to fit his cameo in somewhere!

    5. Bond had to be stealthy, the Russians didn't.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    This is not a serious response, only a bit of fun. ;) {[]

    1, Never noticed, will have to give it another look, but statistically we all have at
    Least 7 doppelgangers, so it is possible.
    2, a bit of character development perhaps ?
    3, maybe he was allergic to flowers ? Also perhaps having large sharp pieces of
    Glass pushed through his body didn't do him any good ?
    ( Bond films just can't show all the carnage he does ) ;)
    4, the "Bless me father" line always got a big laugh, at any screening I went to, and
    Bond is a mix of action/ humour :) have to let the audience relax now and then, it
    Was also originally supposed to be a meeting with M ;)
    5 , Agree Bond was trying for a surprise attack, It's even mentioned in the film.
    6, I think this shows that she thinks of Bibi as a daughter, and is not working for
    Kristatos. Or it can fuel a bit of girl on girl fantasy. :D
    7, I guess Columbo was taking Bond there to show the drug smuggling etc was
    Really kristatos's bag, not his ?
    8, I've never noticed will keep an eye out for it next time.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Isn't Colombo supposed to be in the restaurant? If memory serves me right in the book Colombo is in the restaurant and makes a big scene with his girlfriend, there is also that special chair with the recording device is there nt? Must confess I haven't seen the film for a while, might just pop it on this Sunday.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, that part of the film is very close to the Fleming story "Risico". With the hidden Recording device and
    Having Kristatos get Bond to do his Dirty work by killing Columbo.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I need to crack on and get the books re-read, just finished Dr no, details from the books are starting to become a bit blurred 8-)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    ... also cut back on the recreational drugs ;) :D

    My very minor little niggle with FYEO, are the machine guns fitted into the
    Indicators of the Motorbikes. As I keep wondering how they get the bullets
    Fed into them, and where on the bike they keep those bullets ! :)) A silly
    Niggle, I agree ( it is a action movie) guns in a car, I can believe, there's plenty
    Of room, but a bike is so exposed, almost a machine skeleton, but I guess it was
    Simply an easy way to put Bond in even more peril.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    ... also cut back on the recreational drugs ;) :D

    My very minor little niggle with FYEO, are the machine guns fitted into the
    Indicators of the Motorbikes. As I keep wondering how they get the bullets
    Fed into them, and where on the bike they keep those bullets ! :)) A silly
    Niggle, I agree ( it is a action movie) guns in a car, I can believe, there's plenty
    Of room, but a bike is so exposed, almost a machine skeleton, but I guess it was
    Simply an easy way to put Bond in even more peril.
    :)) you're right my ibuprofen and caffeine habits are getting out of hand!
    I've always thought that too, the Indicators are just hollow tubes Zbigniew it also struck me how inaccurate they would be and the calibre is huge!!!
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Isn't Colombo supposed to be in the restaurant? 

    Sorry for the confusion. I mean when Bond first meets Kristatos by the ice rink. There is a guy in a pink jacket who looks just like Colombo.
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  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Just watched FYEO on blu-ray. Not one of my favorites, but certainly has some great parts.

    Little niggles:

    1. Guy in pink jacket seated behind Kristatos looks exactly like Colombo. Is it??

    2. Why bother to show Gogol having an office romance?

    3. Motorcyclist crashing thru a window while wearing a helmet would probably not die.

    4. Did we really need a big fat Greek wedding scene before an equally pointless meeting with Q?

    5. Russians will send a helicopter, but Bond has to climb it!? Maybe he could have asked Q for a jetpack.

    6. Bibi says "Hurry up or I'll leave without you." Brink replies, "I will never leave you."
    Brink's reply makes no sense. Bibi was obviously not concerned about being abandonded.

    7. How did Colombo's warehouse raid prove anything to Bond prior to the first shots being fired?

    8. Bond's last carabiner coming loose looks a bit dodgy like a stop-motion technique.


    1. Never noticed, will have to have a look next time!
    2. Are Russians not allowed to have sex?
    3. Broke his neck, perhaps?
    4. Absolutely! Good to see a bit of culture in the Bond films. It's what differentiates them from other spy films.
    5. As others pointed out, it's a stealth mission. A chopper/jetpack/etc. would have been to noisy.
    6. As another poster pointed out (Thunderpussy?), it's to highlight that Brink isn't aligned with Kristatos.
    7. Demonstrates that Locque is working for Kristatos, and not Columbo. The subsequent attack solidifies this.
    8. Yeah. I like to think of it as sudden, jerky movements, but it's a dodgy effect. :p
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    5. As others pointed out, it's a stealth mission. A chopper/jetpack/etc. would have been to noisy.

    In that case Bond and Q should have taken their trusty union jack hot air balloon. :)

    The stealth advantage didn't last long anyway. It could have been a full on assault. Especially considering how badly the British wanted the ATAC back. Including the Greek Police, everyone should have come down on that monastery like a load of bricks.
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    edited October 2016
    I watched Tomorrow Never Dies last night on Blu-ray for the first time. -{

    I know I had some little niggles at some point, but I honestly can't think of any now. TND is basically a perfect Bond film.

    Okay…here's a minor one: The camera cuts away from Elliot as he's saying one of his best lines, "Besides we're on a STEALTH boat."
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    5. As others pointed out, it's a stealth mission. A chopper/jetpack/etc. would have been to noisy.

    In that case Bond and Q should have taken their trusty union jack hot air balloon. :)

    The stealth advantage didn't last long anyway. It could have been a full on assault. Especially considering how badly the British wanted the ATAC back. Including the Greek Police, everyone should have come down on that monastery like a load of bricks.

    I doubt the Greek Police could be trusted for something like this.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I watched Tomorrow Never Dies last night on Blu-ray for the first time. -{

    I know I had some little niggles at some point, but I honestly can't think of any now. TND is basically a perfect Bond film.

    Okay…here's a minor one: The camera cuts away from Elliot as he's saying one of his best lines, "Besides we're on a STEALTH boat."
    Tomorrow Never Dies is such a superb Bond film! easily in my top 5 Bond films.
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Just watched FYEO on blu-ray. Not one of my favorites, but certainly has some great parts.

    Little niggles:



    2. Why bother to show Gogol having an office romance?


    I like to think that this was to show how different M and Gogol are. M is strictly professional and Gogol likes to mix business with pleasure.
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  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I watched Tomorrow Never Dies last night on Blu-ray for the first time. -{

    I know I had some little niggles at some point, but I honestly can't think of any now. TND is basically a perfect Bond film.

    Okay…here's a minor one: The camera cuts away from Elliot as he's saying one of his best lines, "Besides we're on a STEALTH boat."
    Tomorrow Never Dies is such a superb Bond film! easily in my top 5 Bond films.

    I am loving the love for Tomorrow Never Dies! It's brilliant and still holds up, almost 20 years later. Best modern James Bond film, IMO. :x
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Just watched FYEO on blu-ray. Not one of my favorites, but certainly has some great parts.

    Little niggles:



    2. Why bother to show Gogol having an office romance?


    I like to think that this was to show how different M and Gogol are. M is strictly professional and Gogol likes to mix business with pleasure.

    Excellent point. I love how the difference between Gogol and the British government (there's no M in FYEO to compare Gogol to) is shown. These little moments of character development make the films more special.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I watched Tomorrow Never Dies last night on Blu-ray for the first time. -{

    I know I had some little niggles at some point, but I honestly can't think of any now. TND is basically a perfect Bond film.

    Okay…here's a minor one: The camera cuts away from Elliot as he's saying one of his best lines, "Besides we're on a STEALTH boat."
    Tomorrow Never Dies is such a superb Bond film! easily in my top 5 Bond films.

    I am loving the love for Tomorrow Never Dies! It's brilliant and still holds up, almost 20 years later. Best modern James Bond film, IMO. :x
    and its more relevant and realistic today then it was 20 years ago.
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    (there's no M in FYEO to compare Gogol to)

    That reminds me….I thought the tribute reference to Bernard Lee could have been better.

    Anyway, I liked seeing a glimpse into Gogol's personal life when he is called at home in MR and has a lady in bed. However, I don't find a workplace romance believable. Especially since the Soviets seem more strict in general. Like in TSWLM, Anya's relationship had not "escaped their notice." To me that implies they were at least trying to be very discreet.

    However, in Christopher Wood's TSWLM novel General Gogol is a creepy, molester type of a figure. I am glad EoN decided to make him more likable as he's one of my favorite staples of the RM era.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    One tiny niggle I have with TND:

    Bond takes the GPS device from Carver's safe and it's a whacking great big red box. He slips into his inside jacket pocket. He then basically fights a small army, escapes and gets into his car and takes the device out of his pocket - all while looking immaculate.

    Now I only have to put a handful of change and a pen in my suit pocket and it looks awful - if only I had Brozz's tailor.... :))
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    One tiny niggle I have with TND:

    Bond takes the GPS device from Carver's safe and it's a whacking great big red box. He slips into his inside jacket pocket. He then basically fights a small army, escapes and gets into his car and takes the device out of his pocket - all while looking immaculate.

    Now I only have to put a handful of change and a pen in my suit pocket and it looks awful - if only I had Brozz's tailor.... :))

    How about even believing he kept a P99 in there? Not in TND, of course, but in the subsequent films. I've noticed a bulge in the occasional shots when the gun is actually in there.
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  • lotuslotus englandPosts: 301MI6 Agent
    Yeah i know what you mean its a good job they are only films ,i dont tend to look that deep or it would probably spoil the film for me compair it to a car changing in to a submarine obviously impossible but i loved it. I suppose there has to be some silly things put in to bond films so they can catch the next batch of 10 year olds.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    lotus wrote:
    compair it to a car changing in to a submarine obviously impossible but i loved it.

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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,616MI6 Agent
    lotus wrote:
    I am

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    One tiny niggle I have with TND:

    Bond takes the GPS device from Carver's safe and it's a whacking great big red box. He slips into his inside jacket pocket. He then basically fights a small army, escapes and gets into his car and takes the device out of his pocket - all while looking immaculate.

    Now I only have to put a handful of change and a pen in my suit pocket and it looks awful - if only I had Brozz's tailor.... :))

    How about even believing he kept a P99 in there? Not in TND, of course, but in the subsequent films. I've noticed a bulge in the occasional shots when the gun is actually in there.
    I particularly noticed that in twine in zukovsky's office in the casino when he holsters the p99, Mr brioni must have winced at that.
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  • lotuslotus englandPosts: 301MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    lotus wrote:
    I am

    Did you not see the Lotus they made that could go underwater?
    I didn't
  • JellyfishJellyfish EnglandPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    One tiny niggle I have with TND:

    Bond takes the GPS device from Carver's safe and it's a whacking great big red box. He slips into his inside jacket pocket. He then basically fights a small army, escapes and gets into his car and takes the device out of his pocket - all while looking immaculate.

    Now I only have to put a handful of change and a pen in my suit pocket and it looks awful - if only I had Brozz's tailor.... :))

    If I remember correctly, the encoder comes in two pieces; the outer box, which like you say is a big box that wouldn't fit in his pocket, and the encoder itself, which is a bit smaller. It'd still hurt like hell when he jumped onto the little trolley and the encoder got pressed into his ribs though, or when he rolls under the shutter.
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    lotus wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    lotus wrote:
    I am

    Did you not see the Lotus they made that could go underwater?
    I didn't

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