Bonhams Aston Martin Auction - Bond Related Items

ExpatJB

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20927/61477/#r1=150&m1=1

Worth a look if you like that kind of thing. -{

Youknowthename

Wow:

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20927/lot/49/?page_anchor=r1%3D150%26m1%3D1

A poster you can get for 5 quid and an autograph I wouldn't put my money on... Estimated price: £300 - 400. Right... 8-)

ppw3o6r

Youknowthename wrote:

Wow:

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20927/lot/49/?page_anchor=r1%3D150%26m1%3D1

A poster you can get for 5 quid and an autograph I wouldn't put my money on... Estimated price: £300 - 400. Right... 8-)

Bargain compared to the GE Fabbri 1.8th scale DB5 mounted on a bit of perspex for £1500-£2000

ke02eww

These auctions are a great place to make a massive Mark up on a toy or Aston related item....

There's always at least one of these every year, and someone buys it for £500. ..

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20927/lot/115/

A great reminder that a price is just that... A price....

It has very little to do with value and if two consenting adults agree then wheres the harm...

If you have an bond stuff you're not attached to it's always worth chucking it in with a £300 estimate and you could get lucky....

Those horrible bond-plates come to mind.....

Caveat emptor....

Youknowthename

True, if it sells there will be a mark up on all similar items. Same thing happens on eBay, sadly. However, it is Bonhams estimating the price and they ought to know better. A little research would've told them they're overestimating by far.
Of course, now these items will sell - you'll see

Higgins

correct me if I am wrong - but if they sell it for that price, how can they overestimate it?

What most of us still have to learn is, that there is no "value" of a certain item.
It's just an amount of money that someone is willing and able to pay at a certain time and a certain place.

For example: Try to sell these in the middle of the african desert. You may stomp your feet and insist on the value X - you won't get it!

Now if kewee comes alomng by chance, you -{ may get far more

ppw3o6r

The problem with the 1.8th scale DB5 is nowhere does it state it is or indeed it is not the partworks model. It could for example be the Diamond Cars of Germany DB5 (it's not) which would certainly justify the estimated bid price. It could also be the prototype Corgi Bond DB5 (it's not) which the partworks model was developed from when Corgi pulled the plug on the 250 unit £1500 project. Again well worth a stab at the price. To say the lot is licensed by EON & Aston Martin is true but a tad misleading if you do not actually know what the lot is!

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20927/lot/120/?search_query=1&division=&passages=True&earliest_first=False&value_data_currency=GBP&value_data_order_spec=%5B%27-value_low%27%5D&back_to_year=2003&date_range=future&main_index=lot&department=&query=james%2Bbond&create_facets=False&value_data_range_display=

Disco Volante

There are certainly a few suspect 'genuine' autographs on that site!

The Domino Effect

Auctions are nearly always the best and worst places to buy anything. The best are general auctions in which absolute treasures can go for a song because it's a very general set of buyers who don't necessarily appreciate the intricacies of obscure areas of collecting...and the worst are specialty sales in which people who have neither the time nor the inclination to do proper research swoop in and 'snap up' a piece of Bond, or of Aston Martin or whatever for ten-times the going rate.

ke02eww

Bondtoys wrote:

correct me if I am wrong - but if they sell it for that price, how can they overestimate it?

What most of us still have to learn is, that there is no "value" of a certain item.
It's just an amount of money that someone is willing and able to pay at a certain time and a certain place.

For example: Try to sell these in the middle of the african desert. You may stomp your feet and insist on the value X - you won't get it!

Now if kewee comes alomng by chance, you -{ may get far more

As I said almost the exact same thing 2-t's, I think what you still have to learn is how to read... 8-)

And I take great pleasure in outbidding you ol boy... -{

ke02eww

ppw3o6r wrote:

The problem with the 1.8th scale DB5 is nowhere does it state it is or indeed it is not the partworks model. It could for example be the Diamond Cars of Germany DB5 (it's not) which would certainly justify the estimated bid price. It could also be the prototype Corgi Bond DB5 (it's not) which the partworks model was developed from when Corgi pulled the plug on the 250 unit £1500 project. Again well worth a stab at the price. To say the lot is licensed by EON & Aston Martin is true but a tad misleading if you do not actually know what the lot is!

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20927/lot/120/?search_query=1&division=&passages=True&earliest_first=False&value_data_currency=GBP&value_data_order_spec=%5B%27-value_low%27%5D&back_to_year=2003&date_range=future&main_index=lot&department=&query=james%2Bbond&create_facets=False&value_data_range_display=

Completely agree John... It's far from clear...

My strong guess from pics and the "licenced by eon" bit os that its a completed partworks model that someone fancies cashing in on and good luck to them.

I suspect bonhams have provided the "written description" and will not be upset if some poor sod thinks he's buying the "model from skyfall"

As regards the diamond, as you've handled one I know you know this ain't one

Cheers paul

Higgins

coming back to the "value" discussion for a certain collectible:

Yesterday, this



Rolex sold for a whooping US$ 180.000,--
Christie's expert estimate was US$ 10.000 - 15.000,-- (I would not even pay US$ 5k for this watch).

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/watches/rolex-a-very-fine-and-unusual-signed-5674570-details.aspx?intobjectid=5674570

what do we learn from this?

To quote myself:

There is no "value" of a certain item.
It's just an amount of money that someone is willing and able to pay at a certain time and a certain place.

The Domino Effect

Bondtoys...any reason the Rolex sold for that amount? Anything particularly special about it, or was it just two people with deep pockets who reaaaaally wanted it?

Higgins

I am not an expert for these old Rolex watches but the Explorer with the white dial seems to be much rarer than the variant with the black dial.

But that's reflected imo in the estimate which has been probably a little on the low side.

However the larger slice of the price has more to do with 2 people with heavy pockets being at the same place at the same time.

Bond Collectors' Weekends

Definitely. If it wasn't for the travel, the VAT and Christie's premium, I'd sell all my stuff there!