Simplicity of Dr. No

DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
After watching a lot of the more OTT Bond films recently like TSWLM & MR it actually felt genuinely refreshing when I gave Dr. No another watch today. I have always enjoyed Dr. no but have never really appreciated it for much more than being the film to start the best series of films ever. (IMO) When I watched it today however I was just taken back by the sheer simplicity of the whole thing. The plot is easy to follow, the action isn't stupid or crammed in and the characters and locations are all extremely enjoyable to view. It is just genuinely a fantastic spy/detective story (more so than FRWL I feel) which actually has Bond act like a very intelligent and witty spy himself instead of a huge hero who cannot be killed or even harmed. I know CR brought back the simplicity somewhat but still compared to Dr. no it still seems slightly overblown, the first Bond film actually is a gem and sets remarkably high standards which the series often tried to hard to live up to.
....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    I like how there is a minimum amount of gadgets in the film
    Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

    " I don't listen to hip hop!"
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    I love Dr. No. It is a great introduction to Bond.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I love the card game at the start and all the mens fashions, a
    real step back in time to Bonds Literary era. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    I like the banter between Leiter and Quarrell.

    "Hey Quarrell if you see a dragon, you get in on him first and breath on him ya hear?,with all that rum in ya he'll die happy!"
    Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

    " I don't listen to hip hop!"
  • doctor maybedoctor maybe Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    I was just going to start a thread on this! Dr. No is just such a fun film all the way through. Maybe (IMO) one of the best in the series. It is very simple but in such a good way. Everything about it from the fashion, to the locations, to the characters.... I am just in awe of how good of a movie it is. It really set the stage for me when it comes to Bond films. Being as how I am a total beach bum, most of my favorite Bond films are the ones set near the ocean. Dr. No, Thunderball, Goldfinger, YOLT. These movies just give you a glimpse into what the culture was like back then. Plus, its a Connery Bond, so automatically its tops in my book...
    "My dear Colonel Bouvar, I don't think you should have opened that car door yourself."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Plus, its a Connery Bond, so automatically its tops in my book

    Another very perceptive fan! -{
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    It is indeed a fabulous movie. I enjoy it every time I put it on.
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Dr. No is always a delight. My favorite of the classic Connery Bonds.

    I slightly disagree that's DN is simplistic when you consider Dr. No's elaborate plan to topple US rockets with radioactive beams. There was definitely some over-the-top elements already in the works here.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Dr. No is always a delight. My favorite of the classic Connery Bonds.

    I slightly disagree that's DN is simplistic when you consider Dr. No's elaborate plan to topple US rockets with radioactive beams. There was definitely some over-the-top elements already in the works here.

    There is certainly some OTT things in play but they seem so toned down compared to the later instalments. The ending was actually quite a disappointment to me because it just got randomly complicated and slightly obscure (Dr. No's death) but overall it certainly takes on a much simpler and easier to admire take on a British spy doing what he does best.
    ....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
  • SherbrookSherbrook Melbourne AustraliaPosts: 137MI6 Agent
    Minimalist Bond - hard edge, not many gimmicks, cool clothes, set in an era I like, nice ladies
    I must be dreaming
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,489MI6 Agent
    Remember my folks taking me to see it when I was 10, at London Pavilion I think it was, made a big impression and first Connery film I saw in colour, having had a black and white telly.

    Understated, very cool and intro now seems cooler than ever. Perhaps the most unforced of the Bond films.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • HalconHalcon Zen TemplePosts: 487MI6 Agent
    #3 on my list

    the movie reminds me of a warm breezy evening at the beach. and despite its hectic ending, it never loses its 'relaxed' vibe.
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    I thought Dr No's death was too quick
    Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

    " I don't listen to hip hop!"
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    As I've mentioned elsewhere, lol, I'm just enjoying my new blu-rays, which I thought I would never get and the first Bond I watched was Dr. No, naturally. At that time, they had a vision but had no inkling how the series would develop, so what came out inherently became the most sincere film in the series. As with FRWL, there was an obvious attempt to extract key essential qualities from Fleming, such as the exotic island feel set by the tropical night club dancers in silhouette, the 3-blind mice and the lush Jamaican locales, which I think just reverberated in the cockles of Fleming's heart. Then, there's the swanky lifestyle of Bond's world, including the open displays of sexual attraction (and of course, the actual casual sex).

    I liked the depiction of the secret service here and by extension, the British Foreign Service since both were prominently depicted in Fleming's books. They seemed very "government," busy yet organized, still showing aspects of the then declining presence of the Empire (scenes with the expats' social activities and Government house) but bearing little resemblance to how MI6 came to be portrayed in the series with that aspect becoming condensed in the M-Tanner-Q-Moneypenny segments.

    The nature of the mission itself was simplistic, with Bond in the beginning performing more like a police investigator (a stupid police man), interviewing people and following up leads, whereas nowadays the same activities are done in some high-tech, clever and often convoluted manner.

    As with any starting movie and even with a freshman Bond, Connery hadn't nailed what would become his trademark portrayal and was sincere, most noticeable when playing "hard-edged" scenes like when confronting the photographer in the night club; Connery sacrificed finesse as he barked out orders with so much urgency, which would be normal in a police-procedural TV show, so in DN that could be a good or bad thing depending on how one looks at it (check out how his face shakes when he pulls out the film from the girl's camera. IMO, despite the characterization, Connery's attempt at playing a gentleman doesn't quite come through and he's not that convincing as a product of a public school, old boys club, but then again I think there was much leeway given there for the sake of making the character cool and attractive.

    Then, the fantasy element enters almost dramatically once Bond is on Crab Key. Just like with the novel, Fleming occasionally strayed from the plausible and dipped into the bizarre, going to the limit with YOLT and of course, DN. Fleming is said to have been a fan of pulp novels as a boy and it seems that DN was an experiment in that vein. But because EON chose to make this the first film, it must have been tough deciding on different elements of their treatment. The product, however, indeed delivered and the Crab Key portion of the movie was a respectable interpretation that somehow attained dignity for those overly-fantastic elements of the novel; what we got was some excellent escapism and adventure to finish the movie.

    The blu-ray just made it all the more better, the cinematography became all the more vivid and the colors just popped out, beginning with the title sequence and throughout the tropical locales. When I struggled with my purchase of the set, I even considered just getting the Connery movies because IMO, because of their age and how these movies were shot, they would benefit the most from the digital remastering and blu-ray conversion, so watching DN was a fantastic way to begin the Bond blu-ray experience.
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Plus, its a Connery Bond, so automatically its tops in my book

    Another very perceptive fan! -{

    How did I know you were gonna say that? :)) -{
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  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    I remember a new agent who joined asking our advice on what Bond film
    should he start with ? i said start at the beging ,where it all began and watch DR NO
    i remember having to duck to avoid the verbal eggs SO i was right :))
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Plus, its a Connery Bond, so automatically its tops in my book

    Another very perceptive fan! -{

    How did I know you were gonna say that? :)) -{

    Clairvoyant perhaps? :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I love Dr. No. Awesome simplicity and economy of storytelling.
    But then, the 60's movies & Dalton's two really ARE the Best of Bond, aren't they? -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    I love Dr. No.
    But then, the 60's movies & Dalton's two really ARE the Best of Bond, aren't they? -{

    No argument from me there :)
    "Watch the birdie, you bastard!"
  • Minister w/o PortfolioMinister w/o Portfolio Posts: 28MI6 Agent
    Yes, its simplicity is its USP I believe.
    Those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first make mad.
  • Kent007Kent007 Posts: 338MI6 Agent
    I really like Dr.No, more so than FRWL. I'm not entirely sure why, I just watch Dr.No a lot more and think it's more iconic.
    "You are about to wake when you dream that you are dreaming"
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Dr know was the perfect Launching Point for the Franchise.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Kent007 wrote:
    I really like Dr.No, more so than FRWL. I'm not entirely sure why, I just watch Dr.No a lot more and think it's more iconic.
    Dr. No turned into a real Bond movie (like they would become later) when Bond & Honey got captured; FRWL was a pretty straight drama most of the way through with not so much of the fantastic.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ixtoreixtore NYCPosts: 111MI6 Agent
    Dr. No was, in its time, groundbreaking. The only film that came close to it's 'cool, dangerous and humorous' aspect until then was North By Northwest. It had as much substance as it did style. And Connery's Bond was more driven, to the point and all hands on deck for the job than any other film in the series (until the Craig remodeling). It had everything and laid the groundwork for the following films very nicely, I think.
    And Norman's Bond theme was and is thrilling.
    The scent smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. Then the soul-erosion produced by high gambling - a compost of greed and fear and nervous tension - becomes unbearable and the senses awake and revolt from it.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    ixtore wrote:
    Dr. No was, in its time, groundbreaking. The only film that came close to it's 'cool, dangerous and humorous' aspect until then was North By Northwest.
    -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    To see how good Dr No was just watch any other action/thriller from the
    early 60's. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    To see how good Dr No was just watch any other action/thriller from the
    early 60's. :))
    Yeah, Hitchcock & Young ushered in a new era!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • davidelliott101davidelliott101 Posts: 165MI6 Agent
    My ONLY complaint about Dr No is the music at the fight scene in the end... where Dr No dies (the whole sequence)... it sounds like something out of a 1930's or 1940's Movie Serial.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    My ONLY complaint about Dr No is the music at the fight scene in the end... where Dr No dies (the whole sequence)... it sounds like something out of a 1930's or 1940's Movie Serial.
    Blame that on Norman; Barry would have made it work better!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • L JonesL Jones Posts: 131MI6 Agent
    Groundbreaking or not, I still have a low opinion of DR. NO. A good deal of the acting was pretty bad or mediocre, except for Jack Lord and John Kitzmiller. Honey Ryder's character was irrelevant. Connery's performance switched from smooth to stilted, whenever he had a scene with Lord. I couldn't tell whether DR. NO was an early 60s crime drama, an espionage tale or an adventure fantasy. Terence Young and the script didn't handle the combination of the genres very well. On the other hand, I was very impressed with the score, the songs and the photography.

    So, yeah . . . I have a low opinion of it.
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