from Russia with love

always shaken

Id thought I would join you guys today, so I purchased my very first Fleming book,
hard choice seeing all those books side by side ,so I opted for FRWL
now just have to sit back and wait for all the stick from you guys )

Thunderpussy

-{ Welcome to the world of the Literary Bond.

FRWL is a good choice one of Fleming's best. I also think for a good read
Dr No, Moonraker and O.H.M.S.S are great.
Why did you decide to start with FRWL ?, you know ther'll be many telling you
you should've started with CR and worked your way through. :007)

I didn't read them in order Picked them up as a kid from 2nd hand Book shops
and markets to just read them as I got them.
Either way they're fun. -{

After getting all the Bonds on to a cheap Tablet, I now hope to get all the Bond novels
on Kindel so I'll hve everyhing Bond on it. Although that's a long term Plan.

welshboy78

I think I've read around 7 now and FRWL is prob my fave so far (im itching to get to Thunderball and OHMSS)

superado

FRWL was the first one I read as my selection was based on my ranking of Bond movies. Don't know if it was just me, but getting into it was slow-going because of the plot and time-line structure and maybe because of being used to the movies and being a teen then, the need for instant gratification for exciting Bond action worked against that appreciation. Now, of course, I'd gladly pick it up and read with abandon.

always shaken

Thunderpussy wrote:

-{ Welcome to the world of the Literary Bond.

FRWL is a good choice one of Fleming's best. I also think for a good read
Dr No, Moonraker and O.H.M.S.S are great.
Why did you decide to start with FRWL ?, you know ther'll be many telling you
you should've started with CR and worked your way through. :007)

I didn't read them in order Picked them up as a kid from 2nd hand Book shops
and markets to just read them as I got them.
Either way they're fun. -{

After getting all the Bonds on to a cheap Tablet, I now hope to get all the Bond novels
on Kindel so I'll hve everyhing Bond on it. Although that's a long term Plan.

HI Thunderpussy, went for FRWL cos im going through my Turkish phase of life at the mo
went to Fetiye ,into Turkish coffee (medium sweet naturaly) and just got my shishka pipe
so I thought FRWL was a natural choice

Thunderpussy

) whatever works. -{

I hope you don't take up Voodoo for Live and let Die. :007)

Let us know what you think of it.

raptors_887

How similar is FRWL to the movie? I'm almost finished DAF and I'm surprised how the novels aren't anything close to the movies. I still really like them though.

Napoleon Plural

FRWL is closer than most, perhaps the closest, aside from OHMSS perhaps. But the novel is a lot darker, more intense, it's more anti-Commie propoganda. And the action scenes at the end of the film don't feature in it. A lot of the film's dialogue is taken verbatim from the novel.

Most of the novels are used simply as a jumping off point for the movie, use the title, the names of the main characters, the locations and off you go.

Colonel Pinstripe

Napoleon Plural wrote:

FRWL is closer than most, perhaps the closest, aside from OHMSS perhaps. But the novel is a lot darker, more intense, it's more anti-Commie propoganda. And the action scenes at the end of the film don't feature in it. A lot of the film's dialogue is taken verbatim from the novel.

Most of the novels are used simply as a jumping off point for the movie, use the title, the names of the main characters, the locations and off you go.

Indeed. FRWL and OHMSS are the most faithful to Fleming. Thereafter (the 1970s) things took a decidedly different turn, to say the least.

always shaken

Thunderpussy wrote:

) whatever works. -{

I hope you don't take up Voodoo for Live and let Die. :007)

Let us know what you think of it.

Yeah man ,me backside has already done de caribbean ting
in MO Bay ,so you quite safe blood )

ixtore

Both FRWL and Dr. No are close to the films, mainly because Fleming was around during their development and shooting. I think FRWL is a great read. My first Bond book was Dr. No because I had just seen it at the movies and wanted to find out about this Fleming guy.
Enjoy the ride as you read each book. They all have that certain 'something' that Fleming breathed into the Bond character that no one (if you go by me) has been able to recreate. Forget the plots, the gags, the dated stereotypes --- look at how he describes Bond, his feelings, his intentions. Quite unique.

always shaken

ixtore wrote:

Both FRWL and Dr. No are close to the films, mainly because Fleming was around during their development and shooting. I think FRWL is a great read. My first Bond book was Dr. No because I had just seen it at the movies and wanted to find out about this Fleming guy.
Enjoy the ride as you read each book. They all have that certain 'something' that Fleming breathed into the Bond character that no one (if you go by me) has been able to recreate. Forget the plots, the gags, the dated stereotypes --- look at how he describes Bond, his feelings, his intentions. Quite unique.

IM upto chapter five so far, so I now understand Grant and his background, but in a way feel let down that
as a cinema Bond fan ive been some what cheated out of the true story and I have lots more to read
(what else is in store for me) But Flemings writing is fantastic ,the detail he has put in is so easy for the minds eye to conjour up images of what the master is trying to portray, I know film makers cannot use the whole book (shame)
to make a film ,the cost would be astronomical ,and I feel for the person whos job it is to translate the book to the film
which bit do you keep in/out that has to be a tough call, but tell me am I right to be worried that the book (after ive read it) could dare I say ruin the film ,will I be sitting there ,thinking oh I wish they had put that bit in,only you guys can tell me ,I await your advice

Thunderpussy

Glad your enjoying it AS. Fleming was a great writer he knew how to drive a story along. Making the film makers job a little easier. )

always shaken

Thunderpussy wrote:

Glad your enjoying it AS. Fleming was a great writer he knew how to drive a story along. Making the film makers job a little easier. )

Yes im ashamed to say that I haven't read a book since I left school,
don't get me wrong, I love books, but I buy books on various subjects
I do have SIR Rogers book on Bond wich he signed for me ( well we did used to be neighbours years ago )

Thunderpussy

) You wont like chapter six of Sir Roger's book, always shaken. It's all about his crazy neigbhours.

Barbel

always shaken wrote:

tell me am I right to be worried that the book (after ive read it) could dare I say ruin the film ,will I be sitting there ,thinking oh I wish they had put that bit in,only you guys can tell me ,I await your advice

Fleming's own words (on seeing DN): "Those who've read the book are likely to be disappointed, but those who haven't will find it a wonderful movie."

Thunderpussy

While I was reading the Fleming Books Roger Moore was the screen Bond, and I
never had a problem seperating the two characters. The screen Bond and the literary Bond.
Both very diffferent But I loved them Both.

Charmed & Dangerous

Stick with the book, Always Shaken, it's fantastic. It's a slow start but you will see it all fits into the film after all... -{

Thunderpussy

I wonder if there would be any Interest in a Bond Book of the Month, I did suggest it before.
Where we'd pick a Book read it over a month, then Discuss the sh*t out of it. ) . As we'd be
getting the modern take on them from Older readers and members who'd never read them before.

Charmed & Dangerous

I'd be up for that. I've read all the Fleming novels and Col Sun many times, the Gardner books, Deaver and Faulks once, and none of the Benon ones.so we have plenty to choose from!

welshboy78

Good idea Thunderpussy

Thunderpussy

OK, we'll see if we can get a few members together ( as I'd hate it to be a small private club, the more the merrier ) -{

Napoleon Plural

Pour yourself a glass of something and listen to the John Barry soundtrack while reading it. I felt the film was a tad lightweight having read the book first, but the film is a crowdpleaser while the book is a bit of a solo pleasure, a bit nasty in its tone too.

always shaken

thanks guys , I will endeavour to finish FRWL,and continue to enjoy both book
and film ,this discussion has been very shall we say grown up ,much better than
most of the verbal tennis that's been on this site for a while ,im sure Sir Miles
will approve of our adult collective

Thunderpussy

The collective : "resistance is futile" )

DEFIANT 74205

Thunderpussy wrote:

I wonder if there would be any Interest in a Bond Book of the Month, I did suggest it before.
Where we'd pick a Book read it over a month, then Discuss the sh*t out of it. ) . As we'd be
getting the modern take on them from Older readers and members who'd never read them before.

I'd be up for that too. Just started re-reading them in order, about 3/4 of the way through Live and Let Die now.

That being said, I've only read Fleming, and only intend to read Fleming. So if a non-Fleming Bond novel is the "Bond Book of the Month", I won't be able to contribute.

Thunderpussy

Could I ask DEFIANT 74205, why you haven't read any of the continuing novels ?
and do you include Col Sun. I'm just interested because when I was younger I was always
so excited to read a new Bond adventure even By Gardner ( some of which I think are very good )
I've also read the Benson novels but these are of a much lower quality ( Just my opinion ).
Infact I can't wait for "Solo" to come out, To get in to another Bond adventure. )

Peppermill

I haven't got all the continuation novels, so I wouldn't be able to discuss all books, but I would definitely join in the conversation about the novels I have read.

Thunderpussy

Well would anyone object to waiting to the end of to the end of this month and start in July.
I'd suggest starting with Casino Royale, as if someone doesn't have a copy there should be loads
in old book shops etc.
All opinions welcome along with any better suggestions, everthings up for discussion at the moment.
After all there's no rush, We have all the time in the World,....................................

Peppermill

No problem to wait for a week. Will you start a new tread for it TP?

Thunderpussy

Yes, I was thinking of a new thread. Only waiting if anyone has any suggestions or
a prefernce for another Book.