Can have different reasons.
If you gave a deep chip or gauge, you basically grind the lug down till the damage is not visible anymore.
Then there are people who go to their jeweller with every single scratch and polish the case parts further and further down.
Official Rolex Statement is, that a watch can be refinished (during a Service) around 7 times and then recommend a new casemid, which will cost the price of an entire used watch (US$ 3.000 - 4.000).
In the last years, progress has been made with laserwelding. You basically fill up the damages with liquid metal and then polish the excess away.
Lugs and crownguards are crucial when buying used watches.
This is why I insist that the watch case is not being touched when my watch is getting serviced and I can just recommend this to anyone else who wants to keep their watches for a long time.
This problem is not exclusive to Rolex - and the thicker lugs on the newer models is a consequence of that.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
From what I can see, the all lugs have been heavily polished down - particularly at 2 and 7.
They are as thin as Asp9mm's legs and Rolex will definitely insist on a new casemid if you give the watch to them. You can use an independent watchmaker though.
If you can, return the watch and get a better one.
You haven't told us how much you have paid for it.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Especially particularly at 2, still it all depends what you can live with? the protruding spring bar will snag on clothing, you could try fitting a thicker bar, but obviously this is trial and error and the bar won't be genuine.
I paid $4,300 (box, papers, tags, anchor, everything). I really do love the watch and I'd be bummed to return it, but if the lugs are that bad perhaps I should take it back. Unfortunately, it was the only no date, two line Sub in the store. Decisions, decisions...
In other news, I pulled the trigger on the titanium planet ocean, it should be shipped to me tomorrow or Thursday apparently soil should have it for the weekend only problem being I'm in Edinburgh this weekend so I won't get my hands on it until Monday
Especially particularly at 2, still it all depends what you can live with? the protruding spring bar will snag on clothing, you could try fitting a thicker bar, but obviously this is trial and error and the bar won't be genuine.
It's the 2:00 lug that's protruding. I can catch my fingernail on it. The rest are fine, and are recessed as they should be. The lug 7:00 must be the angle of the picture as it's ok in person.
In other news, I pulled the trigger on the titanium planet ocean, it should be shipped to me tomorrow or Thursday apparently soil should have it for the weekend only problem being I'm in Edinburgh this weekend so I won't get my hands on it until Monday
Congratulations! Post pictures when it arrives! -{
I paid $4,300 (box, papers, tags, anchor, everything). I really do love the watch and I'd be bummed to return it, but if the lugs are that bad perhaps I should take it back. Unfortunately, it was the only no date, two line Sub in the store. Decisions, decisions...
If you love it, keep it. These things are personal, some will only buy a faultless watch, other like signs of wear, I've bought new watches and totally wrecked ones that I've refurbished.
You could file the springbar head down ( but that will compromise it's stability) but now that you know it, I doubt that you'll be happy with it.
M or not M, 2 or 4 lines are not important. Important is dial and hands condition, case condition and very important is the condition of the movement (rust!!!).
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I agree with Mr Higgins.
If you can, return the watch.
It has been over polished and the way it has been done reduces IMO significantly the value of the watch.
Picture number 3 from the top shows how much the lugs where overpolished. The lugs are not even the same width...
Bmorelli, I am afraid that you are wasting your time - now that you've also posted it on TRF.
Visiting an Authorized Service Center won't bring you new info. They will tell you that the lug(s) is/are polished beyond the limit and that the only way to solve this will be an expensive casemid.
If I understand you correctly, you habe visited a dealer yourself and bought the watch there.
Not sure if that store has a return policy, but I'd contact them as soon as possible, if and how they take the watch in question back.
If they refuse doing so, your only line of action is to get it written from Rolex, that the watch is off-standards and sue them.
But at first you should try to find a friendly solution with the dealer, where you have bought it. Quick!
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
If you purchased the watch in person I don't think you have a leg to stand on unless they are happy to take it back as a return in good faith. Sold as seen etc
Sounds like you have purchased first and researched after.
Anyhow lesson learnt and good luck if you decide to attempt a return
Hello,
I would need a bit of a help. Came across two very nice Rolexes, but since I cannot find one like it on internet, I cannot tell whether they are genuine. If so, how much would you say they are worth paying for? Since I know very little about vintage watches, I don't want to end up overpaying.
Thanks
Hello,
I would need a bit of a help. Came across two very nice Rolexes, but since I cannot find one like it on internet, I cannot tell whether they are genuine. If so, how much would you say they are worth paying for? Since I know very little about vintage watches, I don't want to end up overpaying.
Thanks
They both look to be around circa mid 1920's, what are the cases made of? Any marks? Is there such a marking that says Wilsdorf and Davies? I've seen similar models in 9k gold to the one you have with the black strap valued at around 1700 gbp, we need more info really. The first is known as a cushion shape which may help you in a Web search.
Hello,
I would need a bit of a help. Came across two very nice Rolexes, but since I cannot find one like it on internet, I cannot tell whether they are genuine. If so, how much would you say they are worth paying for? Since I know very little about vintage watches, I don't want to end up overpaying.
Thanks
They both look to be around circa mid 1920's, what are the cases made of? Any marks? Is there such a marking that says Wilsdorf and Davies? I've seen similar models in 9k gold to the one you have with the black strap valued at around 1700 gbp, we need more info really. The first is known as a cushion shape which may help you in a Web search.
Main problem with these may be that they are not repairable at all.
So make sure that you have someone who can fix them before buying them.
If not - it's scrap value.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Just arived home to this classic 60's inspired watch. Wanted to get this as i have seen it in a few magazines and its made by a company named after my home city with a classic image of the exhibition center on the back.
Congrats beautiful watch and the one Bond should have worn (OK did but in black). In certain lighting they can almost look grey.
Be careful though they can become a real wrist hogger - nearly made my other Omegas redundant!
Enjoy I know you will!
Cheers :007)
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
Congrats beautiful watch and the one Bond should have worn (OK did but in black). In certain lighting they can almost look grey.
Be careful though they can become a real wrist hogger - nearly made my other Omegas redundant!
Enjoy I know you will!
Cheers :007)
I've actually spent the last week eyeing up my neighbours French windows considering gaining entry through them.
Yes I'm very happy with it, the shifting colour is something to behold amd works well in blue ( I'm used to the bezel on the SM300 Co ax) It's a cracking looking po and the titanium is fantastic to wear, and self healing apparently? It's also in much better condition than I first thought and now I have it I'm pleased with the size also 45.5mm. Bond should definitely have worn this watch and it would have complimented the blue AT.
It's a bugger to photograph though, harder than the SM300 Co ax, I get now why they look so different in pictures, you really have to see one in the flesh to appreciate the finish I think.
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If you gave a deep chip or gauge, you basically grind the lug down till the damage is not visible anymore.
Then there are people who go to their jeweller with every single scratch and polish the case parts further and further down.
Official Rolex Statement is, that a watch can be refinished (during a Service) around 7 times and then recommend a new casemid, which will cost the price of an entire used watch (US$ 3.000 - 4.000).
In the last years, progress has been made with laserwelding. You basically fill up the damages with liquid metal and then polish the excess away.
Lugs and crownguards are crucial when buying used watches.
This is why I insist that the watch case is not being touched when my watch is getting serviced and I can just recommend this to anyone else who wants to keep their watches for a long time.
This problem is not exclusive to Rolex - and the thicker lugs on the newer models is a consequence of that.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
They are as thin as Asp9mm's legs
If you can, return the watch and get a better one.
You haven't told us how much you have paid for it.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
It's the 2:00 lug that's protruding. I can catch my fingernail on it. The rest are fine, and are recessed as they should be. The lug 7:00 must be the angle of the picture as it's ok in person.
Congratulations! Post pictures when it arrives! -{
You could file the springbar head down ( but that will compromise it's stability) but now that you know it, I doubt that you'll be happy with it.
M or not M, 2 or 4 lines are not important. Important is dial and hands condition, case condition and very important is the condition of the movement (rust!!!).
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
If you can, return the watch.
It has been over polished and the way it has been done reduces IMO significantly the value of the watch.
Picture number 3 from the top shows how much the lugs where overpolished. The lugs are not even the same width...
Visiting an Authorized Service Center won't bring you new info. They will tell you that the lug(s) is/are polished beyond the limit and that the only way to solve this will be an expensive casemid.
If I understand you correctly, you habe visited a dealer yourself and bought the watch there.
Not sure if that store has a return policy, but I'd contact them as soon as possible, if and how they take the watch in question back.
If they refuse doing so, your only line of action is to get it written from Rolex, that the watch is off-standards and sue them.
But at first you should try to find a friendly solution with the dealer, where you have bought it. Quick!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Sounds like you have purchased first and researched after.
Anyhow lesson learnt and good luck if you decide to attempt a return
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I would need a bit of a help. Came across two very nice Rolexes, but since I cannot find one like it on internet, I cannot tell whether they are genuine. If so, how much would you say they are worth paying for? Since I know very little about vintage watches, I don't want to end up overpaying.
Thanks
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Main problem with these may be that they are not repairable at all.
So make sure that you have someone who can fix them before buying them.
If not - it's scrap value.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Thank you for your insight, gentleman {[]
And there she is at last - what took you so long
Congrats beautiful watch and the one Bond should have worn (OK did but in black). In certain lighting they can almost look grey.
Be careful though they can become a real wrist hogger - nearly made my other Omegas redundant!
Enjoy I know you will!
Cheers :007)
Yes I'm very happy with it, the shifting colour is something to behold amd works well in blue ( I'm used to the bezel on the SM300 Co ax) It's a cracking looking po and the titanium is fantastic to wear, and self healing apparently? It's also in much better condition than I first thought and now I have it I'm pleased with the size also 45.5mm. Bond should definitely have worn this watch and it would have complimented the blue AT.
It's a bugger to photograph though, harder than the SM300 Co ax, I get now why they look so different in pictures, you really have to see one in the flesh to appreciate the finish I think.
Enjoy it!
I still regret having sold my Ti SMP
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
5 years in the waiting
Now if anybody had a Seamaster CR 2220.80 please do let me know hehe