OHMSS

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  • AirJordanFan93AirJordanFan93 Posts: 92MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    OHMSS was in no way a flop. No Bond film has ever been (even the 67 CR). Some do better than others, that's all. James Bond is one of the surest ways for a film company to print money. Makes me wonder why the films take so bloody long to be made!!!
    Wasn't License the closest one of the Bonds got to be a flop in the US due to the poor marketing.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    LTK still made significantly more money than what it costed.
    But in terms of gross audience numbers, it was a flop - like TLD and AVATAK.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,929Chief of Staff
    Bondtoys wrote:
    LTK still made significantly more money than what it costed.
    But in terms of gross audience numbers, it was a flop - like TLD and AVATAK.

    Every film producer wished they had a flop like that :))

    From what I recall it was North American audience figures that were well down on previous Bond films...and it was those figures that people latched on to to say the film was a flop...
    YNWA 97
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I am pretty sure that LTK box office numbers in your local cinema where outstanding back then, Sir Miles - I am not sure if these where enough to convince the 007 producers that the movie was a blockbuster in the grand picture (sarcasm)

    Sir Miles - you are aware that the US market was and still is the largest and most important market for an international movie franchise?

    And the question is not if the producers made ANY profit with a certain movie - they asked how the profit was compared to other successful films from their franchise and there the Dalton movies and AVTAK simply stank!
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    OHMSS was in no way a flop. No Bond film has ever been (even the 67 CR). Some do better than others, that's all. James Bond is one of the surest ways for a film company to print money. Makes me wonder why the films take so bloody long to be made!!!
    Wasn't License the closest one of the Bonds got to be a flop in the US due to the poor marketing.

    I think THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN was a poor grosser too. It started off well but interest soon tailed off.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Wasn't License the closest one of the Bonds got to be a flop in the US due to the poor marketing.

    It was not the marketing - the main actor was not widely accepted by the audience back then :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
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    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,929Chief of Staff
    Bondtoys wrote:
    I am pretty sure that LTK box office numbers in your local cinema where outstanding back then, Sir Miles - I am not sure if these where enough to convince the 007 producers that the movie was a blockbuster in the grand picture (sarcasm)

    Sir Miles - you are aware that the US market was and still is the largest and most important market for an international movie franchise?

    And the question is not if the producers made ANY profit with a certain movie - they asked how the profit was compared to other successful films from their franchise and there the Dalton movies and AVTAK simply stank!

    I was just pointing out the facts...of course I know the North American market is important...but its not the be all and end all...and a profit is still where you make more money back then you spent, right ?
    YNWA 97
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    DAF is on now. Two Parts Cut out before the Titles have started!
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • icsics Posts: 1,413MI6 Agent
    Meet Lazenby today in Sweden (messe hal) - nice guy - lots of charm
    Still one of my fav. Bonds... classic person and humble about the fans today…

    Bond list should have been:

    Connery Dr NO - YOLT
    Lazenby OHMSS - FYEO
    Dalton FYEO - DAD
    Craig - CR -


    OHMSS GREATTTTTTTTTT movie
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    -{ It's a crying shame Lazenby didn't do more, but sadly he got bad advice.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    has any one had/ordered/know ,what steak piz Gloria is that Lazenby had in OHMS ?
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    -{ It's a crying shame Lazenby didn't do more, but sadly he got bad advice.

    Getting bad advice is one thing
    Following bad advice is another thing :#
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) True.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    has any one had/ordered/know ,what steak piz Gloria is that Lazenby had in OHMS ?

    Apparently they don't do it anymore. Shame though as it would've been a great part of the Bond experience

    http://commanderbond.net/2717/journey-to-blofelds-hideaway.html
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  • AirJordanFan93AirJordanFan93 Posts: 92MI6 Agent
    -{ It's a crying shame Lazenby didn't do more, but sadly he got bad advice.
    Shame he bought into all that crap he was told. He could of been one of the great Bonds and it would be interesting to see how the series differs without Moore becoming Bond or even Connery going back for Diamonds.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I could always see Lazenby doing LALD, and who knows what DAF could've been.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Pitty about the steak piz gloria, but so long as it came with chips and
    onion rings, I'd be happy. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    has any one had/ordered/know ,what steak piz Gloria is that Lazenby had in OHMS ?

    Apparently they don't do it anymore. Shame though as it would've been a great part of the Bond experience

    http://commanderbond.net/2717/journey-to-blofelds-hideaway.html

    As far as I know, they never did.

    But they had a 007 breakfast combo (breakfast with some sparkling wine) which I have enjoyed twice :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I still want to see Bond strangle Blofeld to Death, like in the YOLT Novel.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    Watching OHMS the other night,and in the scene where Bond pays a visit to the Heraldry college ,I noticed that he was wearing a pair of black leather driving gloves . Thinks to myself ,im sure I had a pair when I bought my first BM , and low and behold I found them They are the Hackett/ Aston Martin range gloves in black leather with British racing green stitching
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    now if I can only remember where my DB navy overcoat is 8-)
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) I used to wear a pair of driving gloves years ago, not Bond related but
    because I noticed Roger Moore wore some in the Cannonball Run. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,486MI6 Agent
    OHMSS is showing tomorrow at London's Prince Charles cinema. It is better on the big screen, the quality shines through and you can pick out the detail in the long shots.

    I caught a bit the other night, and the safe cracking scene is tops, esp with Barry's Ipcress File-style music there. Compare it with the safe cracking scene in the one before, and there's no contest. It's great to see a Bond with star persona too, as Lazenby has and Craig doesn't imo. His expressions are just right. But... I don't know, any goodwill I have to the film swiftly fades. It's not just the way Bond flicks through a porno mag - can you imagine Connery's Bond in Dr No awaiting Prof Dent by pulling out a Playboy mag and leafing through it - it's the way we see M's residence, perhaps a little too grand? Or the realisation that Connery would say the lines so much better, and it would feel like we are on another level, seeing him at M's house, like being invited around to your best friend's place for tea as a kid. Or the awful dubbing Bond gets in Switzerland, or the way, again, Connery would deliver his 'unwittingly rude' lines to Irma Bunt about the baggy bits of a sale and so on. Or his digs at Blofeld's 'characteristic ambition' of leaving his mark on the world, Connery would milk that for humour, he would be putting his hosts' noses out of joint for the hell of it.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,768MI6 Agent
    My basic feelings about OHMSS are generally summed up quit simply: It's a brilliant but flawed film. For the me the biggest flaw will always be Lazenby as Bond. He looks like Bond, dresses like Bond, fights like Bond, but when he opens his mouth, he just ain't Bond. I don't blame George however (prima donna / diva onset behavior aside) the blame rest with EON. They rationalized losing Connery by believing they could find a Bond clone and insert him into the Bond universe; of course the big difference was that Lazenby was not a real actor. Connery may have been rough around the edges, but he was a real actor with real talent and a natural screen presence and charisma that is unrivaled. Connery was also smart, hungry and independent enough to understand that Bond was his ticket to stardom and wealth. Lazenby as we know was just as immature a person as he was an actor and in fairness to EON, never allowed EON the chance to develope him into the role and as an actor.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Lazenby put in the best Performance he could, considering that it was his first full Film. If he had done more, his Perfomance would obviously grow and improve.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,870MI6 Agent
    Lazenby put in the best Performance he could, considering that it was his first full Film. If he had done more, his Perfomance would obviously grow and improve.

    Exactly. I'm a Lazenby defender. I think he acquitted himself well in the Bond role considering he'd never acted before. :) -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Lazenby put in the best Performance he could, considering that it was his first full Film. If he had done more, his Perfomance would obviously grow and improve.

    Exactly. I'm a Lazenby defender. I think he acquitted himself well in the Bond role considering he'd never acted before. :) -{

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    Exactly
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,870MI6 Agent
    Lazenby put in the best Performance he could, considering that it was his first full Film. If he had done more, his Perfomance would obviously grow and improve.

    Exactly. I'm a Lazenby defender. I think he acquitted himself well in the Bond role considering he'd never acted before. :) -{

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    Exactly

    I forgot to say that OHMSS is my favourite film from the series as it's so different from anything else. Only SF comes close in my book. -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    {[] It's my favourite too.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    And the same here -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
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