So…to put the Bond series in that context, I don’t think it jumped the shark until DAF. Even with YOLT, despite of how that movie was panned by critics, most commonly saying how bored Connery seemed, to me the movie as a whole was still sincerely delivered, in that they took what was happening as something seriously taking place.
I totally agree about YOLT, and your analysis of the "jump the shark" concept is spot on as well. -{
So…to put the Bond series in that context, I don’t think it jumped the shark until DAF. Even with YOLT, despite of how that movie was panned by critics, most commonly saying how bored Connery seemed, to me the movie as a whole was still sincerely delivered, in that they took what was happening as something seriously taking place.
I totally agree about YOLT, and your analysis of the "jump the shark" concept is spot on as well. -{
All I've ever read about DAF suggests that the team were deliberately trying to emulate GF (Sir Donald's diamond lecture parallelling that of Colonel Smithers, Shirley Bassey singing the theme song, Guy Hamilton directing, US locations, etc - at one point even considering bringing back Gert Fröbe as Goldfinger's twin brother), make the most of Connery's return, and "correct" OHMSS's percieved faults (too long, downbeat ending, no Connery, few gadgets). Lightening the tone went along with that approach.
It didn't seem to me that they felt invincible, indeed I get the impression that they felt they were playing it safe.
I can agree that they did play safe, especially because they had Connery with the rational of having a sure draw after the "Lazenby" experiment. I just watched LALD and forgot that the Guy Hamilton and Tom Mankiewicz tandem also did this, following-up DAF. Comparing the two films, LALD was relatively respectable and certainly has more creative integrity and sincerety.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
The DAF discussion above is interesting. I don't think they jumped the shark there...I think they smoked a lot of weed during production, and the audience probably were too, for it to gross higher than OHMSS
I think the "Jump the shark" concept is very useful way to judge when the humor in Bond has crossed the line into stupidity or self parody. Here are some "Jump the shark" moments off the top of my head:
-YOLT Japanese makeup-I know it's in the book but in the movie it's just dumb
-OHMSS Kilt
-OHMSS Blofeld's plot with all the ladies-a little too crazy, and a far too transparent excuse to get Bond in the mountains with a bunch of beautiful women
-DAF Moon buggie chase-it's kinda fun, and it isn't too much of a stretch given the tone of the rest of the movie, but it in the end it's a Jump the shark moment.
-TMWTGG JW Pepper round 2-Pepper is great in LALD, but throwing him into TMWTGG was pretty half-baked
-MR the whole damn movie-except for the PTS. So good!
-OP Tarzan yell-
-AVTAK-57 year old Moore sleeping with Grace Jones in her prime )
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I totally agree about YOLT, and your analysis of the "jump the shark" concept is spot on as well. -{
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Thanks, BL!
I can agree that they did play safe, especially because they had Connery with the rational of having a sure draw after the "Lazenby" experiment. I just watched LALD and forgot that the Guy Hamilton and Tom Mankiewicz tandem also did this, following-up DAF. Comparing the two films, LALD was relatively respectable and certainly has more creative integrity and sincerety.
Now you are quoting McQueen from the sublime "Magnificent Seven"
The DAF discussion above is interesting. I don't think they jumped the shark there...I think they smoked a lot of weed during production, and the audience probably were too, for it to gross higher than OHMSS
-YOLT Japanese makeup-I know it's in the book but in the movie it's just dumb
-OHMSS Kilt
-OHMSS Blofeld's plot with all the ladies-a little too crazy, and a far too transparent excuse to get Bond in the mountains with a bunch of beautiful women
-DAF Moon buggie chase-it's kinda fun, and it isn't too much of a stretch given the tone of the rest of the movie, but it in the end it's a Jump the shark moment.
-TMWTGG JW Pepper round 2-Pepper is great in LALD, but throwing him into TMWTGG was pretty half-baked
-MR the whole damn movie-except for the PTS. So good!
-OP Tarzan yell-
-AVTAK-57 year old Moore sleeping with Grace Jones in her prime )
-LTK winking fish-WTF
-DAD again, whole film, except for the PTS
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I agree with you.
The kite surfing was just awful...
I liked the invisible car - thought that was very clever!
Stop.
Just stop, okay?
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
" It's not pink! It's salmon !" )
I guess that it must be a case of "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" then!