The Bond films of the 1980's Vs. The Bond films of the 1990's

AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
My own continuation of the Lego Batman's Thread. Which of these two Decades for Bond do you prefer?
1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I prefer the 90s because that's when most of the post-Moore films were made.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • LegoBatman008LegoBatman008 USAPosts: 189MI6 Agent
    I, too prefer the 90's mostly because of GoldenEye (1995) and the GoldenEye 007 video game on the N64. The remake of GoldenEye starring Daniel Craig on the Nintendo Wii wasn't bad either.
    "Ahem, you know in the future if you're going to steal cars, don't dress like a car thief, man." - Spider-Man
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    For me it's the 80's. Probably the strongest Decade for Bond in my Opinion.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • LegoBatman008LegoBatman008 USAPosts: 189MI6 Agent
    For me it's the 80's. Probably the strongest Decade for Bond in my Opinion.

    I like the 80's too. Mostly because of the two Timothy Dalton movies and the fact that Maud Adams came back for Octopussy but I was only a baby back then. You see, I was born in the year 1985, the same year as Roger Moore's last Bond movie (A View to a Kill) and Back to the Future. I grew up in the 90's. During the Pierce Brosnan era and GoldenEye was my favorite film of his...
    "Ahem, you know in the future if you're going to steal cars, don't dress like a car thief, man." - Spider-Man
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    For me it's the 80's. Probably the strongest Decade for Bond in my Opinion.

    I agree
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Marginally the 80s because of For Your Eyes Only and The Living Daylights. About the only Bond I really cared much for in the 90s was Tomorrow Never Dies.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    If I were to rank the 80's films it would probably be.

    GE
    TLD
    LTK
    TND
    FYEO
    AVTAK
    OP
    TWINE

    So it's pretty even, probably collectively I would say the 80's. However, if you are including all the Bond universe, for me GE64 was such a huge part of my childhood that I would have to say the 90's.
  • LegoBatman008LegoBatman008 USAPosts: 189MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Marginally the 80s because of For Your Eyes Only and The Living Daylights. About the only Bond I really cared much for in the 90s was Tomorrow Never Dies.

    GoldenEye didn't do it for you sir?
    "Ahem, you know in the future if you're going to steal cars, don't dress like a car thief, man." - Spider-Man
  • Smiert-SpionamSmiert-Spionam Posts: 318MI6 Agent
    The 80's for me. FYEO, TLD and LTK are much more serious Bond films and 2 of them include Dalton who is my favourite 007 actor. Plus I also have a secret soft spot for AVTAK. Maybe it's also an unfair comparison because we got 5 80's Bond films compared to only 3 in the 90's.
    Smiert Spionam
  • AirJordanFan93AirJordanFan93 Posts: 92MI6 Agent
    80s for me. I love Goldeneye and think it would of fit well into Daltons run but something about TND and TWINE just doesn't feel right. The 80s have a really good feel with Bond I think the fact we got 3 darker films with FYEO,TLD and LTK just make the decade a good Bond decade.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Marginally the 80s because of For Your Eyes Only and The Living Daylights. About the only Bond I really cared much for in the 90s was Tomorrow Never Dies.

    GoldenEye didn't do it for you sir?
    Nah. I had high hopes, having waited six years. I like elements of the movie, but overall I didn't think it was worth the wait.
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    edited March 2014
    The 80's for me. FYEO, TLD and LTK are much more serious Bond films and 2 of them include Dalton who is my favourite 007 actor. Plus I also have a secret soft spot for AVTAK. Maybe it's also an unfair comparison because we got 5 80's Bond films compared to only 3 in the 90's.


    The highlights of the 80's Bond for me are Octopussy, AVTAK and Living Daylights. I really like the 90's Brosnan trilogy, but they lack the vintage charm of the 80's.

    All 6 of those films I just mentioned are in my top 10... so it's fairly evenly matched.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
    I love Brosnan's 3 films of the 90's but I still don't think they are a match for the 5 from the 80's.
    I like all 3 of Moore's 80's flick, like TLD a lot too and I don't mind LTK
    ....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,341MI6 Agent
    80s (FYEO , OP , TLD , LTK) vs 90s (GE) , easy victory......
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    I think the 1980. While the 90's Bonds were all pretty good, the 80's were more mixed. The Moore bond's were weaker and the Dalton Bonds were stronger.
  • Dexter SmytheDexter Smythe Close to Fort KnoxPosts: 47MI6 Agent
    80s...........give me FYEO,OP,or TLD any day.
  • Colonel ShatnerColonel Shatner Chavtastic Bristol, BritainPosts: 574MI6 Agent
    GoldeneEye and Tomorrow Never Dies were pure unadulterated, concentrated, compressed, and refined 1990s when looking at them now in past few months. :))
    'Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism...'
  • jamesm123jamesm123 LondonPosts: 184MI6 Agent
    I think the 80's for me. I even don't mind a bit of NSNA a couple of times a year.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    If you know me you know two of Brosnan's films are in my top 5.
    But Dalton's occupy the top two spots, so it has to be 80's for me.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    On balance the '80s Bonds win out for me.
  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    1980s.

    For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, and Licence to Kill were all excellent films. In the 1990s, however, I'd argue that only GoldenEye was the only film that stood out as being very good.
    "Watch the birdie, you bastard!"
  • LegoBatman008LegoBatman008 USAPosts: 189MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Marginally the 80s because of For Your Eyes Only and The Living Daylights. About the only Bond I really cared much for in the 90s was Tomorrow Never Dies.

    GoldenEye didn't do it for you sir?
    Nah. I had high hopes, having waited six years. I like elements of the movie, but overall I didn't think it was worth the wait.

    What were you hoping for? Something more along the lines of For Your Eyes Only and/or The Living Daylights? Or are you just not a fan of Martin Campbell's direction? Because I thought he was a great film-maker until he made Green Lantern...Which I hear is a bigger piece of crap than Die Another Day ever was.
    "Ahem, you know in the future if you're going to steal cars, don't dress like a car thief, man." - Spider-Man
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:

    GoldenEye didn't do it for you sir?
    Nah. I had high hopes, having waited six years. I like elements of the movie, but overall I didn't think it was worth the wait.

    What were you hoping for? Something more along the lines of For Your Eyes Only and/or The Living Daylights? Or are you just not a fan of Martin Campbell's direction? Because I thought he was a great film-maker until he made Green Lantern...Which I hear is a bigger piece of crap than Die Another Day ever was.

    The Green Lantern is way worse than Die Another Day. Way worse!
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) like many, I love my Superhero movies. :D but I've avoided " The Green Lantern " as I have
    Heard nothing but BAD reports. :#
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    :)) like many, I love my Superhero movies. :D but I've avoided " The Green Lantern " as I have
    Heard nothing but BAD reports. :#
    Well, I'm here to tell you that Green Lantern was not all that bad. I was a big fan of the comic books back in the Seventies & Eighties, and I feel like Campbell captured it all pretty well. Apologies to my esteemed colleague Sir Blackleiter, but it was SO much better than DAD. :D
    True, it's probably Campbell's worst movie, but his worst is still entirely watchable IMO.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:

    GoldenEye didn't do it for you sir?
    Nah. I had high hopes, having waited six years. I like elements of the movie, but overall I didn't think it was worth the wait.

    What were you hoping for? Something more along the lines of For Your Eyes Only and/or The Living Daylights? Or are you just not a fan of Martin Campbell's direction?.
    Yep, something more along those lines, but with some of the humor included.

    Lots of things bothered me about Goldeneye:

    It needed better production values, for one. I still think Goldeneye looks more like a cable TV movie of the time than a Bond film. The Living Daylights looks better and so does Tomorrow Never Dies. The bad CGI and model work notwithstanding, whole sets seemed underdeveloped or underwhelming, and a lot of the characters, like the computer nerd, were just annoying or half baked, giving the film a Bond wannabe rather than a Bond for real quality. The music was mostly odd, and the plot, well, it just didn't seem all that intriguing to me.

    Brosnan underwhelmed me, which is so weird because when Remington Steele premiered, the first thing I said was "That guy should be Bond." He did a Coke commercial or something, too, where he essentially was doing Bond, but it was lighter and with more flair than any of his films. It felt like with Brosnan's casting, the Bond films would combine the wit and humor of the Moore era with the more suave and dangerous qualities of the Connery era. Instead, they decided to try to make Brosnan tougher and more dour, and I don't think those are his strengths.

    Martin Campbell did a fine job with Casino Royale and The Legend of Zorro -- to the degree that I almost don't believe he did Goldeneye. The directing styles are very different, with his first Bond seeming rather amateurish by comparison. So it might not be him, I suppose. But Goldeneye just doesn't do it for me. I can watch it, but I thought six years was plenty of time to establish something bigger and spectacular. This wasn't the movie I'd been waiting all those years for.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    I can watch it, but I thought six years was plenty of time to establish something bigger and spectacular. This wasn't the movie I'd been waiting all those years for.
    GE was to test the waters. It was a B-movie for Bond. They attempted a grand look with lacking $$s. Actors worked for less pay than usual. It was THE movie to determine whether Bond was still a viable property worth pursuing.
    Thank Buddha it was as good as it was.
    TND is still my favourite from that era though. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • LegoBatman008LegoBatman008 USAPosts: 189MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    :)) like many, I love my Superhero movies. :D but I've avoided " The Green Lantern " as I have
    Heard nothing but BAD reports. :#
    Well, I'm here to tell you that Green Lantern was not all that bad. I was a big fan of the comic books back in the Seventies & Eighties, and I feel like Campbell captured it all pretty well. Apologies to my esteemed colleague Sir Blackleiter, but it was SO much better than DAD. :D
    True, it's probably Campbell's worst movie, but his worst is still entirely watchable IMO.


    I've seen a video on Youtube of a guy saying that Green Lantern is basically "a bread basket at a restaurant, there's nothing to complain about, but it's really just there to tide you over until some real food is served."

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=fARbgw4upoY

    ^Here's the video where so-and-so compared Green Lantern to a bread basket. :D
    "Ahem, you know in the future if you're going to steal cars, don't dress like a car thief, man." - Spider-Man
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    ^Here's the video where so-and-so compared Green Lantern to a bread basket. :D
    Sorry if I'm not so much caring here- I liked it a lot, and that's what counts to me.
    No, it was by no means perfect, but not every superhero movie can be Superman: The Movie or Iron Man. ;)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ManxmanManxman Posts: 125MI6 Agent
    Eighties, by a mile. The decade gave us two of the all-time greatest Bond films in For Your Eyes Only and Octopussy and another classic in The Living Daylights. Licence To Kill was also excellent, with A View To A Kill being the only dud. The nineties gave us nothing truly great, offering the decent (but no better) The World Is Not Enough, the hugely overrated Goldeneye and the sleep-inducing catalogue of clichés known as Tomorrow Never Dies.
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