Bond Blu-ray and 4k Film Club

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    This is just a guess, but would it be because of the extra features on the bluray ?
    Commentaries, views and opinions etc, as ( I can't remember) there might be the
    Odd swear word ? Maybe something like that ? :)
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  • SpoffSpoff Posts: 244MI6 Agent
    I just re-watched the Connery films on DvD after quite a while off from Bond films.

    One thing that stood out which never really did before was Sean Connery's tattoo on his arm, and how they had tried to cover it.

    Particularly noticeable in Thunderball when he is on the traction machine at the health spa.

    OHMSS next, which I have not seen for probably about 30 years. I can't remember a thing about it apart from it has the "one time" Bond in it, looking forward to watching it tomorrow.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, I think plenty of make up was used to hide the tattoo, although
    It's plainly visible in NSNA ( changing for the dive) :)
    OHMSS, looks brilliant on bluray. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • SpoffSpoff Posts: 244MI6 Agent
    Yes, I think plenty of make up was used to hide the tattoo, although
    It's plainly visible in NSNA ( changing for the dive) :)
    OHMSS, looks brilliant on bluray. -{

    I don't actually have Blu-ray yet, but I scouted various exchange shops to put together the full set of DvD's which I am currently watching through. It is the early 2000's set that goes up to Die Another Day (when the spines are all lined up you can see the 007 gun logo).

    Nice set actually, each one comes with a nice little booklet too.
  • SpoffSpoff Posts: 244MI6 Agent
    edited February 2015
    So after 30 years of not seeing it, I watched the OHMSS DvD on Friday afternoon.

    Here are a few of my thoughts:

    I think George Lazenby did an "ok" job of portraying Bond, though I could not stand his voice.

    I did feel sorry for him though because OHMSS seems to spend the first half-hour lamenting about the fact that Connery had left the series. This I believe did not really need to be done, and I also think it got in the way of George "becoming Bond" a little bit.

    They really could have dropped the "This never happened to the other fellow", not because of the 4th wall break, but just because I did not think it was necessary.

    They could have also had a totally different title sequence. They could have made a really good patriotic one for this film but decided to show clips of the Connery films, which I found disappointing. I think they also should have dropped the bit where he is looking at the previous mission mementoes in his desk drawer, it just pulled me away from the fact that George is supposed to be Bond, and did not reinforce it, as I suppose the intent was.

    Anyway, when the mission proper gets underway it is actually pretty good. The story is reasonably tight, it has some great set-pieces and a wonderful score. Also noticeable was the fact of the time frame and moving towards the 70's (In some scenes the decor is just atrocious).

    I was not as keen on the whole "Bond in love" thing, though it did give some emotional grounding which some would find appealing, I think it was done better in Casino Royale.

    The final scene was quite moving though, and is a real stand-out moment in the franchise.

    The main problem I had was the fact that they did not let GL become Bond enough at the beginning, they should have let him hit the ground running and they didn't. It seemed like he was being held back, as if they had said "here's our new guy, he's not as good, but have a look anyway". But I did think that George Lazenby did not have the acting capability to carry a film as the main star, perhaps this is why they did all the "handover" stuff. I did find myself missing Connery at certain points.

    Other than that it was very enjoyable and deserves repeat viewings.

    I loved the very casual "safe hacking" scene at the Swiss office, the skiing set-pieces were extraordinary (Particularly considering when they were done) and most of the Piz Gloria bits were good. Telly Savalas was also a decent villain, and Irma Bunt a good hench-woman.

    As I have watched LALD and TMWTGG a million times and really love both of them, I have decided to do TSWLM this coming Friday. Which is another Bond film I have not seen for a very long time.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think the reason for the Bond clips over the titles was a way of telling
    The audience this was a " proper " official Bond film, and not something from
    A rival company. I too think that Lazenby did a good job, his inexperience giving
    A great sense of vulnerability to his Bond, which I don't think Connery could have
    Done.
    It's my favourite Bond film and Book, so I might be biased. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • SpoffSpoff Posts: 244MI6 Agent
    I think the reason for the Bond clips over the titles was a way of telling
    The audience this was a " proper " official Bond film, and not something from
    A rival company. I too think that Lazenby did a good job, his inexperience giving
    A great sense of vulnerability to his Bond, which I don't think Connery could have
    Done.
    It's my favourite Bond film and Book, so I might be biased. :))

    That certainly makes sense with the titles, I guess viewing it nowadays, and with hindsight, you look at it in a different way than a cinema audience would in 1969.

    I agree that some parts Lazenby did better than Connery would have done, but some others I thought vice-versa. It's an odd beast OHMSS, but certainly not an unwelcome one :)

    It would have been interesting to see how GL developed with a few more under his belt -{
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Absolutely, it would have been great to see GL do a few more. -{
    Connery had made a persona for Bond, very much the Alpha Male.
    So it would have been very difficult to see him as emotionally vulnerable
    Can't see the guy who smacked Dink on the bottom " man talk" as the
    Same guy who falls in love with Tracy.
    OHMSS feels almost like bond is a young agent starting out.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • thegreatgallingthegreatgalling Posts: 180MI6 Agent
    ChromeJob wrote:
    Do you folks know what I'm talking about? It's the atmospheric music, titles (New world, new enemies, still depend upon one man...), PB walks out and shoots the letters until they spell "0 ... 0 ... 7" then the numerals glide together as we walks out of the silhouette shadow, into the light, smiles, and "You were expecting someone else?" Bam, cut to the title card, and end.

    I can't believe they didn't include it in this release. Is it on another disc, or one of the features?

    Ahhh I remember that. I was JUST telling my wife that I miss some of the magic of the Bond VHS release after GE.

    Here it is for your viewing pleasure:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN1bkIEs8oo

    I also remember this one and the amazing impact it had on my eleven year old soul:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCrivb3tNZI

    Ahh, the good ole' days. :)
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    So it would have been very difficult to see him as emotionally vulnerable

    Difficult for some, perhaps, but Connery has shown a vulnerable side in other films. His skill as an actor are often underrated, but I think he would have been effective projecting vulnerability in OHMSS, although probably not in the same way as Lazenby.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    ChromeJob wrote:
    Do you folks know what I'm talking about? It's the atmospheric music, titles (New world, new enemies, still depend upon one man...), PB walks out and shoots the letters until they spell "0 ... 0 ... 7" then the numerals glide together as we walks out of the silhouette shadow, into the light, smiles, and "You were expecting someone else?" Bam, cut to the title card, and end.

    I can't believe they didn't include it in this release. Is it on another disc, or one of the features?

    Ahhh I remember that. I was JUST telling my wife that I miss some of the magic of the Bond VHS release after GE.

    Here it is for your viewing pleasure:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN1bkIEs8oo

    I also remember this one and the amazing impact it had on my eleven year old soul:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCrivb3tNZI

    Ahh, the good ole' days. :)

    That Goldeneye trailer is still one of the greatest of all Bond trailers IMO. -{
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Maybe, But after being a " Superman" in YOLT, that would have been a mighty
    Big turn around. Perhaps if they had have filmed it when they intended to( TB)
    He might have done it, as Bond was still in the Fleming mold ? :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Connery in OHMSS would have been perfect -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Maybe, But after being a " Superman" in YOLT, that would have been a mighty
    Big turn around. Perhaps if they had have filmed it when they intended to( TB)
    He might have done it, as Bond was still in the Fleming mold ? :)

    I don't really see much of the "Superman" Bond in YOLT. Bond gets banged around a bit in the fight with the sumo wrestler (although he was able to pull out a win with the help of that couch! :)) ), and he was on the run for his life during the fight on the docks (again, he prevailed in the end, but he did it with his fists flying and his guns blazing, not with some fantastic gadget or superhuman abilities.) Still, Connery isn't given the opportunity to show much vulnerability or real emotion in YOLT (although I think his somber reaction to Aki's death is brief, but very effective). So I can understand how it might be difficult for some to see Connery as being up to the challenge in OHMSS.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I have no doubt of how good an actor Sir Sean is -{ ( he's not Sir Roger, but
    Who is. :p ) ;) , if OHMSS had been an earlier outing, I'm sure he would have
    Been brilliant. I simply think the timing was all wrong, it would have been like
    Getting Roger to film the torture scene in CR after Moonraker ? :)) Now that
    Would have shocked audiences. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    it would have been like
    Getting Roger to film the torture scene in CR after Moonraker ? :)) Now that
    Would have shocked audiences. :D

    Can't argue with that! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    As a knight of the realm, Sir Rogers plums should be carried on a silk cushion,
    Not beaten with a length of old rope. :))
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I don't really see much of the "Superman" Bond in YOLT.
    Me either. And if you want to see vulnerable, just watch Outland when he gets the message from his Wife that she's leaving with their Son. He could have done OHMSS, no doubt at all. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Bond takes on a Dock full of henchmen = not a scratch
    Bond takes on a squadron of attack helicopters = not a scratch
    Might be more Batman than Superman. :))
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Bond takes on a Dock full of henchmen = not a scratch (Yes, but did you notice his hair was mussed? Take that Rog and Brozz!) Bond takes on a squadron of attack helicopters = not a scratch (Of course not - because Q never jokes about his work!)
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) and Both Roger And Pierce were also SuperBonds. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    rewatched goldeneye in blu-ray.

    i always thought brosnan was the pretty-metro bond but when the camera gets close up, he has a unibrow. WTF?!?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Well Connery had to have his eyebrows, shaved and trimmed too. ;)
    Only Roger could keep his eyebrows under control. :D
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Not according to Spiting Image :D
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    After Roger left with AVTAK, the eyebrows tried to stay on and
    Work with Timothy Dalton ! But it didn't work out, which can
    Clearly be seen in one of the deleted scenes from TLD. Where
    In a fit of anger the eyebrows move to form a moustache on
    Poor Tim, they left soon after to rejoin Roger. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • SpoffSpoff Posts: 244MI6 Agent
    After Roger left with AVTAK, the eyebrows tried to stay on and
    Work with Timothy Dalton ! But it didn't work out, which can
    Clearly be seen in one of the deleted scenes from TLD. Where
    In a fit of anger the eyebrows move to form a moustache on
    Poor Tim, they left soon after to rejoin Roger. ;)

    LOL! Only Jolly Roger can rock those bad boys!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I'm really impress with the quality of bluray. Even in the Bonds
    I've noticed the weave in the fabric of the jackets, you can even spot
    The odd bit of stubble :))
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  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,336MI6 Agent
    As a knight of the realm, Sir Rogers plums should be carried on a silk cushion

    +1 :)) {[]
    "Any of the opposition around..?"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    edited February 2015
    The stuble can just be seen in silhouette on a couple of the dancing girls . :p
    and I'm talking about arm pits here.
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  • SpoffSpoff Posts: 244MI6 Agent
    edited February 2015
    So after also about 30 years of not having seen The Spy Who Loved Me I re-watched it again last Friday.

    **Spoilers ahead**

    Upon inserting the DvD and arriving at the "Activate" screen, I knew I was in for something interesting, as the familiar "James Bond theme" now seemed to be driven by some very 70's disco "pew-pew" noises in the background and a rather funky beat running through it:)

    Anyway, I enjoyed the intro, very "Bondian" in theme with a Neuclear sub going missing and Bond being "on the job" somewhere in Austria or something, and having to be recalled for duty. Cue world famous ski-jump off a cliff (Awesome stunt, that should have won an Academy Award by itself).

    After this the film started to take a bit of a nose-dive for me. I like the fact that they introduced Anya, and it was interesting that he would be against another agent. But the fact that she shares pretty much three-quarters of the screen-time actually with Bond just did not work for me.

    Not because I don't think Bond should have a partner, but because the chemistry was just terrible. Barbara Bach looks like she is reading her lines from the back of a cornflakes packet or something, she just cannot act (she does look good though). Roger also frustrated me in this, and I think it is because of the aformentioned pairing with Anya. He just comes off as a smug condescending p*ick throughout the entire film. I also did not like the whole "hey, I killed your bloke, but I am still gonna shag you at the end" look in his eye all the time.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Roger, but this was his worst Bond performance for me. When they are stuck in the van at the pyramids and Jaws is ripping it to shreds, Rog just sits in the passenger seat spouting endless remarks and crappy one-liners instead of actually doing anything, I just felt like punching him in his smug mouth. He came across like this pretty much for the entire film.

    TSWLM seemed to me to herald the first of the "Big budget" Moore films, and you can really tell that a lot of money was spent here, the set-pieces are very impressive, burning rubber in a Lotus Esprit around Sardinia must have been great fun (beautiful car and place), the sub hangar and Stromberg's lair are equally good. So there really is some good stuff to be had here, but I was ultimately a bit disappointed.

    The 70's really show through here, but I did not think in a "nostalgic" way as in LALD or TMWTGG. Rather in a cheesy way, I laughed out loud when they were at the "Pyramids show" and every time Jaws's mush was highlighted we got the synthesiser "DERRRRRRRRRRR" (as in, hey, this is the BAD guy!)...Funny.

    Jaws was also a bit of a dumb-ass (I guess for a little comic relief) and his method of killing I thought was quite inefficient (not to mention unhygienic) but I guess AIDS had not reared it's ugly head yet.

    I know I will catch some flack for this, but I reckon this is Moores worst Bond film. This is mainly for personal reasons. I don't think it is as good an actual Bond film as LALD, TMWTGG or FYEO.

    Also I prefer MR, OP and AVTAK purely because of the guilty pleasure involved.

    TSWLM seems to sit between these two camps, it is half decent film, and half guilty pleasure, which I guess should make it the best, but for me it just didn't work that well. Which is a shame, because it had some great ideas, and some very good bits in it.

    Coming straight off the back of watching OHMSS (I did not bother with LALD or TMWTGG because I have seen them that many times) I though TSWLM would be far superior. Actually, I thought OHMSS was a better film, and GL a better Bond.

    Missus is going out tonight so Moonraker is going on! Again, another I have not seen for a bit (probably about 10 years or so) but I remember loving this one.
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