Not going in to too much detail, as I don't know much about the technical side of 4k video, but as
an average punter, I'm very happy. The picture quality really is a bump up from the standard Blu-ray,
better contrast, detail and richer colours.With HDR helping with the highlights and darker scenes.
Sound quality is the same 5.1 dts, and nothing new in the extras. I think Skyfall looks the best, maybe
because it was shot digitally instead of film ? ( I may be wrong there, but I think it was )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Skyfall and Spectre look the best because their digital intermediate was finished at 4K. Casino Royale and Quantum were finished at 2K and up-scaled to 4k for this UHD release.
Watching the desert scenes in SPECTRE, you can really notice the improvements with HDR, the
highlights are much better controlled. ( Only my opinion, I could be wrong )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Pausing OHMSS today, at the end, where the dog
Runs over to Bond. In this wide format, I noticed a
Guy in a blue jacket, and what looks like a name badge
Or pass of some sort on his jacket. I'm guessing he
Was the dog trainer ?
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I have a new subscription service with my new cable TV plan called EPIX which is owned by MGM and they are featuring many of the Bond films on demand in 4K HDR. Fortunately, I have been upgraded to a 4K HDR cable box so along w/ my 4K HDR TV I can take advantage of the 4K. I only had a chance to watch the TB PTS and have to say that it is superior to the Blu Ray in overall picture quality.
The contrast ratios are superior and black looks much more "black" rather than the grey that passes for black in lesser formats and the picture appears brighter and has a bit more definition and detail. Looking forward to checking out Skyfall and SPECTRE as their their digital intermediates was finished at 4K. Good stuff.
With regards to 4K HDR, apparently the added pixels of 4K really only makes a difference with monitors 60" on up (I have a 55") the real difference maker with sets of any size is the HDR which really improves contrast ratio, widens/expands the color pallet and improves depth of field.
Watched TSWLM on blu-ray last night and was disappointed that the Egypt scenes were not sandy yellow like I remembered them. Instead they were pale and white and all the warmth was gone. After the film ended I put in my old Special Edition DVD and it looked much better. Anyone else notice this?
I took a photo of each with my phone. I realize it’s not an exact science because the phone has its own auto white balance, but it still shows the top DVD warmer yellow than the bottom blu-ray being pale.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
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I must say that I just a little disappointed that QOS, SF, and SP did not get any new bonus features. All of them really deserve more than the small amount that we got before. If other popular movies can get new content on their 4K releases so can Bond.
Hi everyone! New forum member, long time Bond fan. I currently own the Ultimate Edition DVD sets but am looking to upgrade. Two quick questions...
1) I saw Gymkata's post about the Vudu UHX 24 pack for $99. Currently it's $149. Does anyone know the price history on this bundle? That $99 mark would be too good to pass up.
2) It seems that historically, when a new Bond is being released, a new repackaging of the DVD's/Blu Rays comes with it. I haven't seen any news on this front. Does anyone know of any such upcoming box sets?
Just something to think about when it comes to Bond films in 4K HDR and whether it is better to stream or purchase the actual discs(ie "physical media"). Most streaming services like Netflix, Amazon, etc stream at 25 Mbps (Megabits per second). An actual 4k Blu Ray disc transfers at 128 Mbps which means you are getting 5X's the amount of data to fill your screen with. Color tones, sharpness, and dynamic range are all filled with much more substance and it can be very noticeable, especially as screen size increase. So if you have a 4K Blu Ray player to go along with your 4K TV and want the best possible visual quality, the discs are the way to go. There's nothing wrong with 4k HDR streaming, it still looks very good....it's just not as good as the physical media (discs).
It's interesting that MGM (and EON) have ditched 20th Century Fox as their home video distributors as of 6/30/20.
I wonder if Fox being taken over by Disney had more than a little to do with that decision? There has been a lot of chatter since Disney
bought Fox (it will no longer be called Fox) that Disney will be putting any future 4K releases of classic Fox films on ice for the foreseeable future and just focus on home video/4K releases of new films. It's really unfortunate that those many, many classic Fox films won't see the light of day on 4K Blu Ray any time soon. I don't think it has been announced yet who MGM/EON will now partner with for home video releases but IMO, Universal would not be a bad choice. Universal has done some great great stuff with 4K releases (most recently the classic Hitchcock films) they would probably do justice to the inevitable 4K Blu Ray releases of the classic Bond films. Given the significantly higher resolution of 35mm film over digital, if done properly, remastered 4K Blu Rays of the classic, shot on film, Bonds could look incredible.
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Hope that there is more news about this topic in the near future. With all of the behind the scenes stuff that has happed at MGM in the last two years or so, I am curious to see how this might affect releases of the pervious movies in the 4K format on physical media.
As I pretty much only buy the latest Bond film I’m Interested to know if Blu Ray is still the best way forward? Don’t people tend to go for digital options now?
All the Bond films have been remastered in 4K, so it's really just a matter of EON cutting a deal with whatever company will do the 4K Blu Ray disc releases. MGM's being bought by Amazon should not impede any 4K Blu Ray releases as Amazon is the biggest seller of Blu Rays , 4K and otherwise in the world.
With regards to the 4K releases of the Craig films as per a previous post, Skyfall and Spectre look the best because their digital intermediate was finished at 4K. Casino Royale and Quantum were finished at 2K and up-scaled to 4k for this UHD release. I am guessing that may have something to do with the original source materials. CS and QOS were shot on film but in the Super 35 widescreen process which has more grain and less resolution than 35mm anamorphic Panavision (ie "Cinemascope"). Skyfall was shot digitally and SPECTRE was shot in several formats but primarily in 35mm anamorphic Panavision. All the Bond films prior to CR were shot in anamorphic Panavision except for DN, FRWL, GF, LALD, and MWTGG which were just shot in regular 35mm. DN, FRWL, and GF were formatted to be projected at any aspect ratio from 1.66 to 1 to 1.85 to 1. LALD and MWTGG were formatted to be projected at 1.85 to 1. It will be interesting to see which films have gotten 4K remasters from 4K intermediates or 4K upscales. NTTD, no matter what one may think of the film itself, should make a breathtaking 4K disc considering 40 minutes of the film was shot with 70mm IMAX cameras and the rest in 35mm Panavision. It would also be great if they would present the IMAX scenes in the taller IMAX ratio on the 4K disc.
Seeing as we have to sit and wait for the 4K Blu Ray old Bonds to become available, can anyone recommend some classics - a Top 10 - of movies that show off the new format and are as ever great entertainment?
Also, would others concur that the new format only really works on TVs about 55in or more?
Received mine a few days early, on my birthday no less, but can’t play it yet because the player won’t recognize it. I do believe the issue is with the player.
Your player has good taste, I trust it as a Bond fan!
BTW do people tend to buy BluRays and now the 4K thing because they have larger tellies and sadly the old DVDs just don't seem so good on them, rather back in the days of 40in flatscreens they were serviceable?
I take it NTTD is also available as a BluRay 4K thing? And the older traditional Bonds will be released next year to tie in with the 60th anniversary?
Can anyone recommend any great 4K classic movies worth the outlay? Not just Bond, but other ones like, say, Lawrence of Arabia? I asked on another relevant thread but it got ignored.
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Have fun Thunderpussy! I'd be interested to know what you think compared to the Blu-Rays when you've had chance to enjoy them!
an average punter, I'm very happy. The picture quality really is a bump up from the standard Blu-ray,
better contrast, detail and richer colours.With HDR helping with the highlights and darker scenes.
Sound quality is the same 5.1 dts, and nothing new in the extras. I think Skyfall looks the best, maybe
because it was shot digitally instead of film ? ( I may be wrong there, but I think it was )
highlights are much better controlled. ( Only my opinion, I could be wrong )
Runs over to Bond. In this wide format, I noticed a
Guy in a blue jacket, and what looks like a name badge
Or pass of some sort on his jacket. I'm guessing he
Was the dog trainer ?
The contrast ratios are superior and black looks much more "black" rather than the grey that passes for black in lesser formats and the picture appears brighter and has a bit more definition and detail. Looking forward to checking out Skyfall and SPECTRE as their their digital intermediates was finished at 4K. Good stuff.
With regards to 4K HDR, apparently the added pixels of 4K really only makes a difference with monitors 60" on up (I have a 55") the real difference maker with sets of any size is the HDR which really improves contrast ratio, widens/expands the color pallet and improves depth of field.
I took a photo of each with my phone. I realize it’s not an exact science because the phone has its own auto white balance, but it still shows the top DVD warmer yellow than the bottom blu-ray being pale.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
1) I saw Gymkata's post about the Vudu UHX 24 pack for $99. Currently it's $149. Does anyone know the price history on this bundle? That $99 mark would be too good to pass up.
2) It seems that historically, when a new Bond is being released, a new repackaging of the DVD's/Blu Rays comes with it. I haven't seen any news on this front. Does anyone know of any such upcoming box sets?
Great forum!
Thanks
Only that there will probably be a new
Box set released with NTTD and a 4k
Version of it too.
Be superior. -{
I wonder if Fox being taken over by Disney had more than a little to do with that decision? There has been a lot of chatter since Disney
bought Fox (it will no longer be called Fox) that Disney will be putting any future 4K releases of classic Fox films on ice for the foreseeable future and just focus on home video/4K releases of new films. It's really unfortunate that those many, many classic Fox films won't see the light of day on 4K Blu Ray any time soon. I don't think it has been announced yet who MGM/EON will now partner with for home video releases but IMO, Universal would not be a bad choice. Universal has done some great great stuff with 4K releases (most recently the classic Hitchcock films) they would probably do justice to the inevitable 4K Blu Ray releases of the classic Bond films. Given the significantly higher resolution of 35mm film over digital, if done properly, remastered 4K Blu Rays of the classic, shot on film, Bonds could look incredible.
Hope that there is more news about this topic in the near future. With all of the behind the scenes stuff that has happed at MGM in the last two years or so, I am curious to see how this might affect releases of the pervious movies in the 4K format on physical media.
If so, perhaps would-be Bond director Danny Boyle could pop up in the Dominic Cummings role - or set up a blog outlining his concerns!
Roger Moore 1927-2017
If anyone knows who is releasing Daniel Craig era Blu-ray Steelbook collection from Casino to NTTD let me know in the chat.
As I pretty much only buy the latest Bond film I’m Interested to know if Blu Ray is still the best way forward? Don’t people tend to go for digital options now?
All the Bond films have been remastered in 4K, so it's really just a matter of EON cutting a deal with whatever company will do the 4K Blu Ray disc releases. MGM's being bought by Amazon should not impede any 4K Blu Ray releases as Amazon is the biggest seller of Blu Rays , 4K and otherwise in the world.
With regards to the 4K releases of the Craig films as per a previous post, Skyfall and Spectre look the best because their digital intermediate was finished at 4K. Casino Royale and Quantum were finished at 2K and up-scaled to 4k for this UHD release. I am guessing that may have something to do with the original source materials. CS and QOS were shot on film but in the Super 35 widescreen process which has more grain and less resolution than 35mm anamorphic Panavision (ie "Cinemascope"). Skyfall was shot digitally and SPECTRE was shot in several formats but primarily in 35mm anamorphic Panavision. All the Bond films prior to CR were shot in anamorphic Panavision except for DN, FRWL, GF, LALD, and MWTGG which were just shot in regular 35mm. DN, FRWL, and GF were formatted to be projected at any aspect ratio from 1.66 to 1 to 1.85 to 1. LALD and MWTGG were formatted to be projected at 1.85 to 1. It will be interesting to see which films have gotten 4K remasters from 4K intermediates or 4K upscales. NTTD, no matter what one may think of the film itself, should make a breathtaking 4K disc considering 40 minutes of the film was shot with 70mm IMAX cameras and the rest in 35mm Panavision. It would also be great if they would present the IMAX scenes in the taller IMAX ratio on the 4K disc.
Seeing as we have to sit and wait for the 4K Blu Ray old Bonds to become available, can anyone recommend some classics - a Top 10 - of movies that show off the new format and are as ever great entertainment?
Also, would others concur that the new format only really works on TVs about 55in or more?
Roger Moore 1927-2017
It's out on the 20th of December well here in the UK at least
Guess that means even earlier for digital???
Apparently it's going VOD in the States next week Tuesday i think it said on the mi6-hq website
According to the listing at Amazon's US branch, No Time To Die comes out on Blu Ray/ DVD on December 21. Looking forward to picking up my copy then.
Received mine a few days early, on my birthday no less, but can’t play it yet because the player won’t recognize it. I do believe the issue is with the player.
Your player has good taste, I trust it as a Bond fan!
BTW do people tend to buy BluRays and now the 4K thing because they have larger tellies and sadly the old DVDs just don't seem so good on them, rather back in the days of 40in flatscreens they were serviceable?
I take it NTTD is also available as a BluRay 4K thing? And the older traditional Bonds will be released next year to tie in with the 60th anniversary?
Can anyone recommend any great 4K classic movies worth the outlay? Not just Bond, but other ones like, say, Lawrence of Arabia? I asked on another relevant thread but it got ignored.
Roger Moore 1927-2017