Frankly, what I find most worrisome is the idea Daniel Radcliffe might be playing the villain! Anyhoo, PLENTY of great movies have had their scripts tweaked and rewritten before filming began; and I can think of at least one classic--The Big Sleep--that had scenes shot and added after tepid previews. Long story short, the sky ain't falling.
Frankly, what I find most worrisome is the idea Daniel Radcliffe might be playing the villain! Anyhoo, PLENTY of great movies have had their scripts tweaked and rewritten before filming began; and I can think of at least one classic--The Big Sleep--that had scenes shot and added after tepid previews. Long story short, the sky ain't falling.
It was The Big Sleep where Howard Hawks (the director) and William Faulkner (the screenwriter) couldn't figure out who killed the chauffeur, so they sent a telegram the author of the novel, Raymond Chandler, asking who killed the chauffeur. Chandler responded with a telegram saying, "Damned if I know."
That's hilarious! It's not the first time I have heard of mystery/thriller/nail-biter writers not knowing who the murderer/villain is until they actually name them on the page. They say that way if the author doesn't know, there's no way that the reader can!
There was a terrible remake of "The Big Sleep" by Michael Winner in the 70s. I can't bear to watch it again, but if memory serves that version does explain who killed the chauffeur.
Man, pretty soon were going to have a Bond film once every 5 years with all the bull sh*t that seams to take place with every new movie.
1: Casino Royale 2: Goldeneye 3: Skyfall 4: Octopussy 5: Goldfinger 6: Tomorrow Never Dies 7: The World Is Not Enough 8: The Living Daylights 9: From Russia With Love 10: The Spy Who Loved Me
Sadly the gaps between filming seem very long indeed , will this mean
In future any actor playing Bond might only get three or four films. Before
The search for " The new Bond " begins again.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
(Nostalgia sets in)
Ah, the good old days of a Bond a year... then every two years.... then every three....
I genuinely do not understand why it takes so damn long between films these days. I am not advocating a rush job, but the waits are becoming ridiculous.
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,754Chief of Staff
I genuinely do not understand why it takes so damn long between films these days. I am not advocating a rush job, but the waits are becoming ridiculous.
Don't forget that in 'the good old days' Eon had the advantage of Fleming's source material and the fact that films cost less to make in relative terms...now they need to get companies on board to 'sponsor' the films - these sponsors need to be satisfied their products are getting enough exposure in the film, etc....add to that the wait for certain actors, directors and the 'technical' people (who work on other films)...
It stinks, but it's how it's going to be...
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Bear in mind, by the time Sir Sean and Sir Roger were 007, they were respectively, film actors for the most part. - Mr Craig treads the boards (on both sides of the pond) as well as doing other film projects. - I don;t know, but I would not be surprised if he produces these days too. Add to that, Sam Mendes is a stage (musical franchise as well as traditional theatre, including Shakespeare ) director and producer. - The people behind the scenes don't just multi task different film projects, they also mulit task completely different branches of the entertainment profession.
As M noted above, you add the much needed support though product placement, (A new model of Aston alone could be a considerable headache in the recent financial climate) media distribution rights, tie in media such as computer games, documentaries, the official website, direct publicity agreements with the press, and permissions for location filming. - Both political and local. The film has to look expensive, so often they will go all out to create that effect. - That never gets cheaper. Add health and safety, legal agreements and all the modern red tape in some ways - dare I say it, its surprising a 007 film gets made as OFTEN as it has been! One failed negotiation, and the whole thing can collapse like a house of cards.- As the post QoS period with MGMs problems proved. Its not like the old days when Dr No was made for a single million dollars.
Still think Logan is a bad shout as Writer, but thats just me.
This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
Oh boy.....old news. Took a report about Purvis and Wade being brought in to "punch up" the script and tried to make a whole bunch of nothing into something. Ironically (if my memory is correct) didn't EON bring in John Logan to "punch up" Purvis and Wade's script for CR? This type of "script doctoring" is very common. I'm pretty confident we will see Bond 24 as scheduled in fall 2015.
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It was Paul Haggis that was brought on board for CR - and for QoS...Logan did re-writes for Skyfall...
The question marks in the title of the article suggest very little honest journalism has been committed to it. A bit like Elliott Carver's "British sailors murdered???"
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Does seem a bit odd that they have brought Purvis and Wade back aboard....but I guess there's a comfort level there. Interestingly, some of the best "script doctoring" has been done by uncredited writers. Writer/Director John Milius is famous for some great uncredited re-writes and script additions (an uncredited Milius re-wrote the script for "Dirty Harry", was responsible for the great speech Robert Shaw gives in "Jaws" about being on the USS Indiananapolis during WWII and much of Connery's dialogue in "Hunt For Red October").
Never knew that. -{ I'd always been told R Shaw's speech in jaws
Was written by himself.
There's a really well done documentary about Milius' life I recently saw. The guy was brilliant but a real character. Milius went to film school with Spielberg and George Lucas and was/is close friends with both. According to the doc, Milius wrote the speech in about an hour and Shaw edited it.
Apparently, Milus and Connery got on quite well during the making of "The Wind and the Lion" and Connery would not agree to do "The Hunt For Red October" unless the producer could get Milius to come on board to rewrite his dialogue.
Unfortunately Milius has been quite ill for the past few years. Would have been interesting to see what he could have done with a Bond script.
"Farewell To The King", which Milius wrote and directed is one of my favorite films. IMO, an underrated classic. The score, which was composed by Basil Poledouris sounds very Barry-like.
I genuinely do not understand why it takes so damn long between films these days. I am not advocating a rush job, but the waits are becoming ridiculous.
Don't forget that in 'the good old days' Eon had the advantage of Fleming's source material and the fact that films cost less to make in relative terms...now they need to get companies on board to 'sponsor' the films - these sponsors need to be satisfied their products are getting enough exposure in the film, etc....add to that the wait for certain actors, directors and the 'technical' people (who work on other films)...
It stinks, but it's how it's going to be...
+1
And it nearly killed him at one point Fleming was working two novels at once while correcting editorial notes on another I believed he joked about killing bond to get some rest.
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Of course, the delay could be because of that purple-fringed velvet jacket!
Yup the real delay is DC has been struggling to find a decent cowboy hat and the right horse!
It was The Big Sleep where Howard Hawks (the director) and William Faulkner (the screenwriter) couldn't figure out who killed the chauffeur, so they sent a telegram the author of the novel, Raymond Chandler, asking who killed the chauffeur. Chandler responded with a telegram saying, "Damned if I know."
Talk about plot holes.
always solved them. Doesn't make me a great detective,
Just good at solving puzzles.
In future any actor playing Bond might only get three or four films. Before
The search for " The new Bond " begins again.
Ah, the good old days of a Bond a year... then every two years.... then every three....
I genuinely do not understand why it takes so damn long between films these days. I am not advocating a rush job, but the waits are becoming ridiculous.
Don't forget that in 'the good old days' Eon had the advantage of Fleming's source material and the fact that films cost less to make in relative terms...now they need to get companies on board to 'sponsor' the films - these sponsors need to be satisfied their products are getting enough exposure in the film, etc....add to that the wait for certain actors, directors and the 'technical' people (who work on other films)...
It stinks, but it's how it's going to be...
As M noted above, you add the much needed support though product placement, (A new model of Aston alone could be a considerable headache in the recent financial climate) media distribution rights, tie in media such as computer games, documentaries, the official website, direct publicity agreements with the press, and permissions for location filming. - Both political and local. The film has to look expensive, so often they will go all out to create that effect. - That never gets cheaper. Add health and safety, legal agreements and all the modern red tape in some ways - dare I say it, its surprising a 007 film gets made as OFTEN as it has been! One failed negotiation, and the whole thing can collapse like a house of cards.- As the post QoS period with MGMs problems proved. Its not like the old days when Dr No was made for a single million dollars.
Still think Logan is a bad shout as Writer, but thats just me.
Thanks Sir Miles. Got my screen writers mixed up.
A pleasure - and I'd rather see Haggis return for re-writes rather than Purvis & Wade...
Was written by himself.
There's a really well done documentary about Milius' life I recently saw. The guy was brilliant but a real character. Milius went to film school with Spielberg and George Lucas and was/is close friends with both. According to the doc, Milius wrote the speech in about an hour and Shaw edited it.
Apparently, Milus and Connery got on quite well during the making of "The Wind and the Lion" and Connery would not agree to do "The Hunt For Red October" unless the producer could get Milius to come on board to rewrite his dialogue.
Unfortunately Milius has been quite ill for the past few years. Would have been interesting to see what he could have done with a Bond script.
"Farewell To The King", which Milius wrote and directed is one of my favorite films. IMO, an underrated classic. The score, which was composed by Basil Poledouris sounds very Barry-like.
+1
And it nearly killed him at one point Fleming was working two novels at once while correcting editorial notes on another I believed he joked about killing bond to get some rest.