LTK Gets Some Love

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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I saw a sight the other day that reminded me of Licence to Kill:

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    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    superado wrote:
    Just as Moore made Bond his own, but in a more acceptable way to modern audiences

    Yes, because modern audiences don't want to see a racist, chain-smoking, drug-addict, substance abusing, unfunny Bond.

    Gee…go figure. :007)
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Nice article about a deserving underrated Bond film. I agree with most everything the author says except perhaps "it's better than some of the Sean Connerys." I might be willing to concede that it's better than one of the Sean Connery's, i.e. Diamonds Are Forever. Wait - on second thought, nah! :)) But License to Kill is definitely a top tier Bond film, and I'm always glad to see it getting the love I think it deserves.

    +1 -{
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    LTK has a lot of good elements:

    - locations
    - spectacular score (which gets annoying on repeatedly hearings and in the second half)
    - great story
    - awesome leading lady developement
    - Carey Lowell is simply gorgeous!
    - Q played by Llewelyn and getting loyal to Bond

    etc.

    Besides my usual beef with Misty Dalton, it has some flaws which make it pretty boring to me in the second half:

    The story with the HK agents is unnecessary and makes the movie even longer
    Generally you can see the low budget, particularly in the underwater scenes, the mexican temple etc.
    The entire Crest ship scenes are too lenghty and not really thrilling imo
    The tanker chase - though being technically challenging gets boring to me after having seen it once.
    Hedison as Felix never convinces me
    The Casino scene and the entire Istmus sequence looks relatively cheap and boring compared to other 007 movies.

    I really liked LTK a lot at the beginning but it's now on the bottom of my list. Though I prefer it to DAD and DAF and NSNA of course.

    With a change of Name, comes a change of Heart? :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    With a change of Name, comes a change of Heart? :))

    No? :v

    I still criticize Dalton in many ways but I've never been a fundamentalist (now who disagrees here?).

    But the mentioned weak parts plus Dalton's annoying appearance (which is far more than his looks) ruin a movie to me which I really wanted to like. I still find it better than TLD.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    :)) 'Point taken'
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    FRWL in my opinion

    FRWL better with Craig as Bond than Connery??? Wow! Just wow! ?:)
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    FRWL in my opinion

    FRWL better with Craig as Bond than Connery??? Wow! Just wow! ?:)
    :o
    *falls off chair*
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    But if we got Craig who on earth would play Red Grant ? :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    But if we got Craig who on earth would play Red Grant ? :D

    Jason Statham! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))

    I like " The Stath " -{ but he's no Robert Shaw! :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,106Chief of Staff
    Tom Hardy?
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))

    I like " The Stath " -{ but he's no Robert Shaw! :D

    True, but who is?!!! :D
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Took a shark to beat him, That's how hard he was. :))
    I like the Tom Hardy idea, he could be a great villain. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))

    I like " The Stath " -{ but he's no Robert Shaw! :D

    True, but who is?!!! :D
    How the Heck did they snag him for that role- I mean, who's idea was it? FRWL wouldn't be half the great movie it is with some stupid silent tough non-actor as Grant...
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I was on about the Train Fight with Grant, it's already brutal with Connery. But with Craig and today's standards in Fight Scenes, it would be even better :)) -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I was on about the Train Fight with Grant, it's already brutal with Connery. But with Craig and today's standards in Fight Scenes, it would be even better :)) -{

    Have to disagree with you there, my friend. As much as I admire Craig's fight scenes, especially the stairwell fight in CR, the Bond/Grant fight in FRWL is a classic that stands alone. Of course we'll never know if it would have been better with another actor, but we do know that scene is an absolute thriller that stands the test of time.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • samurai4114samurai4114 Alberta, CanadaPosts: 129MI6 Agent
    I was on about the Train Fight with Grant, it's already brutal with Connery. But with Craig and today's standards in Fight Scenes, it would be even better :)) -{

    Have to disagree with you there, my friend. As much as I admire Craig's fight scenes, especially the stairwell fight in CR, the Bond/Grant fight in FRWL is a classic that stands alone. Of course we'll never know if it would have been better with another actor, but we do know that scene is an absolute thriller that stands the test of time.

    I would tend to agree with you there BL. I wouldn't try and re-shoot that scene knowing that magic of the first time around, even though Craig does do a great job at the physical stuff.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    that scene is an absolute thriller that stands the test of time.
    One of the top five moments in any Bond film for me, as well as one of the top ten one-on-one fight scenes EVER FILMED.

    No, it does not need nor could it BE re-done with any real success.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I agree it shouldn't be redone but this fight should be used as the template for Bond fights
    It's really intense ! {[]
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I was on about the Train Fight with Grant, it's already brutal with Connery. But with Craig and today's standards in Fight Scenes, it would be even better :)) -{

    Have to disagree with you there, my friend. As much as I admire Craig's fight scenes, especially the stairwell fight in CR, the Bond/Grant fight in FRWL is a classic that stands alone. Of course we'll never know if it would have been better with another actor, but we do know that scene is an absolute thriller that stands the test of time.

    Agreed -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    superado wrote:
    Just as Moore made Bond his own, but in a more acceptable way to modern audiences

    Yes, because modern audiences don't want to see a racist, chain-smoking, drug-addict, substance abusing, unfunny Bond.

    Gee…go figure. :007)

    Because modern audiences are too politically correct and can't stomach the possibility that their hero is flawed. Or perhaps modern audiences cannot distinguish between fiction and reality. Personally, I see nothing wrong with depicting Bond as a chain smoking, substance abusing heavy drinker. That's the way he was written.

    Incidentally, Bond isn't a drug addict, and while I agree that there are racist connotations in the Fleming novels - some of which makes me cringe - Bond isn't overtly racist.
    "Watch the birdie, you bastard!"
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