Most underrated Bond film in the 80s ???

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  • Bondage007Bondage007 AustraliaPosts: 371MI6 Agent
    DAD - tsunami and invisible car -> crap

    The tsumani hate is justified but I don't get the hate for the invisible car, it's no more ludicrous than an underwater one.

    Same with Madonna, she's in it for 10 seconds. She doesn't have the worst lines, nor the worst acting in the series.
    Although to be fair, after a tsunami. Most people couldn't see their car either. ;)

    :)) :)) :))
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I've said this many Times before, but DAD holds a lot of Memories for me as it was the first Bond I saw in Cinemas.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I agree about Madonna, she is a crap actress ( In any role) but she's only in DAD
    for a couple of minutes. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    And the main Theme isn't that bad.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think you may be a little sleep deprived, AOS. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Probably :))
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I find myself agreeing with Higgins too. (Once in a blue moon he seems to get things right) :))

    The mexican part of my family calls me 'El Higo' !
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    :))
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) I think there may use a few choice pronouns before
    El Higo. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    What do they call his Choice of Foot Wear I wonder? :D
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    probably octopussy, but all the 80's films were underrated, imo, in some way shape or form.
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    haha I wouldn't even go as far as saying that OP is underrated. everybody I know enjoys it

    i think it's one of those movies that critics didn't like but fans did (opposite of moonraker)
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    probably octopussy, but all the 80's films were underrated, imo, in some way shape or form.

    I'd say that AVTAK was more underrated then OP.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    that's definitely an interesting point of discussion. i definitely found OP better than AVTAK. but is AVTAK more underrated?, perhaps
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    AVTAK, seems to have more criticism directed at it. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    A lot of its unfair in my Opinion.
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  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    a lot of people "hate" AVTAK just because of Roger Moore's age. but before I list why that is unjustified I just say that a lot of people overanalyze the films and are so honest about that that they can't jave any fun with them -{

    side note: I like the name "El Higo" :))
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I mean, Moore still gave an exquisite Performance by the Time of AVTAK. So why should his Age effect your Performance of the Film?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Always get nervous, when " The Higster" wants to tell you how he got
    Those trainers. ;)

    I think Moore gives a great performance as Bond in AVTAK, sure he's
    Older, but he's still 007. To me at least. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    I'm vurrently watching Calvin Dyson's vids and in his TWINE review he really tells the Christmas Jones-opponents off in a very good way! :)
    "You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    side note: I like the name "El Higo" :))

    Don't you 'El Higo' me! X-(

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    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    side note: I like the name "El Higo" :))

    Don't you 'El Higo' me! X-(

    iPuZO3gndyywL.gif

    lo siento señor
    "You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    I'm vurrently watching Calvin Dyson's vids and in his TWINE review he really tells the Christmas Jones-opponents off in a very good way! :)

    He's very very biased.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Alongside JBR, I would recommend Calvin Dyson for Bond Stuff on YouTube.
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  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    I'm vurrently watching Calvin Dyson's vids and in his TWINE review he really tells the Christmas Jones-opponents off in a very good way! :)

    He's very very biased.

    Uhmm, yes he is, he is a Bond fan giving his own opinion on the Bond movies.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • GrazmeisterGrazmeister Posts: 34MI6 Agent
    For me Octopussy is the best 80s Bond. Fantastically entertaining and lest we forget saw off the challenge of the return of Connery in the unofficial Bond. To that end a hugely underrated movie. We can iron out the cringeworthy moments in the Special Edition :v .

    On the subject of Dalton. I wasn't sold at first when I saw TLD at the Cinema. I found his delivery of lines a bit stilted and uncomfortable at the time. Always loved the 'I got the message' scene though. When I saw LTK I loved it and thought he was really hard nosed and cool. Strangely though I have found I enjoy it less as I get older. Maybe at the time it appealed to the angry young man in me..who knows?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    For me Octopussy is the best 80s Bond.
    Certainly the best Moore film, given the the Barry score & the great villains... still, Tim brought the palpable danger back. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    Dalton and Moore are my two favorite Bond actors, so that of course, makes me biased toward the 80's. :007)
  • WadsyWadsy Auckland, New ZealandPosts: 412MI6 Agent
    Dalton and Moore are my two favorite Bond actors, so that of course, makes me biased toward the 80's. :007)

    The 80's is my favorite Bond decade, no joke. Then would be the 60's close behind, my opinion of course.

    For Your Eyes Only. I think that it is my favorite Bond film in the series for being a good back-to-basics plot with it being engaging. I love the cast to death, the car chase & extended ski chase scene, the soundtrack by Bill Conti does it even better for me and the locations, man those locations are amazing. This feels like a true Bond film, and a cold war spy thriller. I don't have any flaws, rather than the pre title sequence which feels bland and a bad way to send out Blofeld. John Glen sure did deliver in his directorial debut as a five consecutive Bond film director. 9.5/10

    Octopussy, is my pick for the weakest Bond of the 80's. Although I really do enjoy it, there were some flaws. The campiness was back, unnecessarily and annoyingly. Glen did very well with the India half of the film and that is what attracted me into loving that tier of the film. I love Glen's trademark of 'scaring the pigeons' away. The 'Tarzan Yell' and Gorrilla suit was embarrassing and not Bond like at all. Once the film gets to Berlin it feels tired and long. I enjoyed the main villain and the action, but nowhere near as much as the predecessor. 7.5/10

    A View To A Kill has a soft spot for me. Definitely an improvement over it's predecessor, and although Moore is definitely too old, I still love what we receive. Great locations - really enjoyed Paris, the Chateau, the lake in France and of course my favorite of all, San Francisco, CA. The obvious stunt doubles were there, yes and Grace Jones was a little strange for the role. Walken however, brilliant actor and definitely in my top three villains next to Sanchez and Alec 006. The action was terrific, at the Eiffel Tower, the hilarious taxi chase, then you have the fire truck Police in San Fran and the final climax which is among the best in the series. Dalton should have been Bond here, I agree, but AVTAK is definitely in the top ten and engages great with a terrific plot and a great finale. 8.5/10

    The Living Daylights is beautiful. Better than the last two films combined. Honestly, one of my favorites in the series, and Dalton's best performance. Timothy Dalton is in my opinion the most underrated Bond actor, and my personal favorite Bond. He plays him seriously, and with a harder-edged style. Dalton might not have the comedic tone that Connery or Moore had but I honestly don't give a tooter. I loved Moore's serious performance on FYEO, and loved Dalton even better in his two films. The locations on TLD were superb, including Slovakia, Austria, Morocco and Afghanistan. The score by John Barry is amazing, and among the best in the series. Although the villains of this film were the weakest of the 80's, I still pick TLD over every other film of the 80's except for FYEO. This IS a real Bond film. 9/10

    Licence To Kill is the last film to be directed by John Glen and the last appearances of Timothy Dalton, Robert Brown as 'M' and Caroline Bliss as 'Moneypenny'. I loved this film, despite the blandness of the locations (worst locations of the 80's). Also, the two Bond girls didn't really do it for me, but despite all that, this is one of my favourite James Bond films, now and forever. Dalton IS James Bond, and I loved the idea of him seeking revenge over the death of Della Leiter. He sure did get his ultimate revenge against Franz Sanchez, a ruthless villain. Awesome story, with flaws ('M' is a jerk to Bond in this film, Caroline Bliss gets next to no screen time, locations are bland, missing General Gogol and Minister of Defence). Terrific film, wish Dalton had done Bond films in 1991 and 1993. 9/10
    1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. TLD 6. TSWLM 7. AVTAK 8. GF 9. MR 10. TB 11. OP 12. SF 13. DN 14. SP 15. LALD 16. GE 17. CR 18. YOLT 19. TWINE 20. TMWTGG 21. NTTD 22. TND 23. QOS 24. NSNA 25. DAD 26. DAF 27. CR '67

    1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig 6. Brosnan
  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    Alongside JBR, I would recommend Calvin Dyson for Bond Stuff on YouTube.


    I love Calvin Dyson's YouTube channel. Does anyone know if he posts on this site?
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