Continuation of themes from "SkyFall"

Jacko1967

Hi all. I don't post here very often. (If at all) But I wanted to run this up the flagpole...
I read somewhere that the next movie would continue to explore some of the themes from SkyFall. I'm starting to think they will address the deaths of Bond's parents, Andrew and Monique, who, as most of us know, were killed in a climbing accident in Switzerland when Bond was just a boy. As scouting has begun in the Austrian Alps, this seems like a plausibility. I hope they do not re-write Fleming's canon and make the death's of Mr. and Mrs. Bond anything more nefarious than what was written, but that is the sense I get. Anyone agree?

Gala Brand

Jacko1967 wrote:

Hi all. I don't post here very often. (If at all) But I wanted to run this up the flagpole...
I read somewhere that the next movie would continue to explore some of the themes from SkyFall. I'm starting to think they will address the deaths of Bond's parents, Andrew and Monique, who, as most of us know, were killed in a climbing accident in Switzerland when Bond was just a boy. As scouting has begun in the Austrian Alps, this seems like a plausibility. I hope they do not re-write Fleming's canon and make the death's of Mr. and Mrs. Bond anything more nefarious than what was written, but that is the sense I get. Anyone agree?

Yeah, I've always thought that would be a likely place for the franchise to go after Skyfall. In 24 Bond finds out who was responsible for his parents' deaths and in 25 he wreaks his revenge.

Others on this board have made it clear they don't want they Bond franchise going in that direction, but having introduced the issue of Bond's parents' deaths in SF it would seem the logical direction.

Number24

In my opinion that would be the wrong direction to go. Skyfall was a very good Bond film, but there is no need to dwel more on his past. Nnow we need a film that focuses on the mission and the villan. I think the themes that will continue is old versus new, not Bond's childhood traumas.

Silhouette Man

Gala Brand wrote:

Jacko1967 wrote:

Hi all. I don't post here very often. (If at all) But I wanted to run this up the flagpole...
I read somewhere that the next movie would continue to explore some of the themes from SkyFall. I'm starting to think they will address the deaths of Bond's parents, Andrew and Monique, who, as most of us know, were killed in a climbing accident in Switzerland when Bond was just a boy. As scouting has begun in the Austrian Alps, this seems like a plausibility. I hope they do not re-write Fleming's canon and make the death's of Mr. and Mrs. Bond anything more nefarious than what was written, but that is the sense I get. Anyone agree?

Yeah, I've always thought that would be a likely place for the franchise to go after Skyfall. In 24 Bond finds out who was responsible for his parents' deaths and in 25 he wreaks his revenge.

Others on this board have made it clear they don't want they Bond franchise going in that direction, but having introduced the issue of Bond's parents' deaths in SF it would seem the logical direction.

Oh dear, have you been reading Carte Blanche?!

Silhouette Man

Number24 wrote:

In my opinion that would be the wrong direction to go. Skyfall was a very good Bond film, but there is no need to dwel more on his past. Nnow we need a film that focuses on the mission and the villan. I think the themes that will continue is old versus new, not Bond's childhood traumas.

Now this is more appealing to my palate. -{

Thunderpussy

I hope they don't do that murdered parents story line. Almost as if Young Bond
Was destined to become an agent , like a spy version of Harry Potter !

Smithers500

Silhouette Man wrote:

Number24 wrote:

In my opinion that would be the wrong direction to go. Skyfall was a very good Bond film, but there is no need to dwel more on his past. Nnow we need a film that focuses on the mission and the villan. I think the themes that will continue is old versus new, not Bond's childhood traumas.

Now this is more appealing to my palate. -{

Agree completely,much like your handle, Bond should be a silhouette with very little background information(perhaps the odd tantalising mention now and again). Skyfall had a bit too much of Bond's supposed history for my liking, so anything more in the next film would be wrong.

Thunderpussy

I too think we've learnt enough about Bond's past , let's push
Ahead with his future. -{

Jacko1967

Yes, I agree completely. A nod here or there (as when Roger visited Tracy's grave during the PTS of "For Your Eyes Only") is all fine and good. But I am not interested in seeing the movies change Bond's history in any way not intended by Ian Fleming.

Gassy Man

I'm guessing it will more mumbo jumbo about whether or not the spy business is about cyber tactics or field agents anymore, or whatever, rather than about Bond's history.

AlphaOmegaSin

Gardner first brought up the Idea of the changing Face of the Secret Service in License Renewed -{

Gala Brand

Thunderpussy wrote:

I hope they don't do that murdered parents story line. Almost as if Young Bond
Was destined to become an agent , like a spy version of Harry Potter !

Doesn't it depend how the story's done? Done well, it could be interesting. Done poorly . . . well.

Bond's childhood seems to be a running theme through the Craig films. Vesper sussed out that he was an orphan early on and M was always going on about how orphans make the best spies because nobody cares if they live or die, or something like that. And then we got Skyfall.

Blackleiter

Number24 wrote:

In my opinion that would be the wrong direction to go. Skyfall was a very good Bond film, but there is no need to dwel more on his past. Nnow we need a film that focuses on the mission and the villan. I think the themes that will continue is old versus new, not Bond's childhood traumas.

I agree.

PDJamesBond

Call me old-fashioned or even clichéd, but I’d love to have at least one Daniel Craig film that follows the classic Bond formula of maniacal villain, frightening henchman, big plot to destroy the world (or something along those lines), a villain’s lair, the big climax where the lair is destroyed, etc. Just once, let’s have no “this time it’s personal!” stuff and just have a straightforward mission with lots of great stunts, action, beautiful women and locations, gadgets – all of it.

Thunderpussy

You're old fashioned.
In my opinion, gradually bit by bit they are slowly building up the formula. {[]
It may not be 100% Classic, but perhaps we're at the start of a whole new
Formula. -{

MrZareba

The reason they've changed the formula is the fact that it wore off - die hard fans will of course enjoy the older entries, but let's be honest - "Die Another Day" wasn't exactly the peak of cinematic evolution (yet it followed the James Bond formula - a villain who wants to destroy the world with a fancy weapon, a girl with benefits for a while, a hell lot of gadgets etc etc). Critics and the audiences have spoken and the producers took another way - as it turned out a pretty decent one. Daniel Craig himself told in one of the interviews however that they will slowly go back into the classic Bond, but they have to show the reason for it and I'm perfectly ok with it.

Thunderpussy

{[] exactly, if you don't evolve,you stand still, and things that
Stand still .......... Tend to get eaten. )

PDJamesBond

I agree that it shouldn't be formula for the sake of formula. God knows we don't ever want another DAD (I shudder at the thought). But just one old-school DC film might be nice - if done properly, of course.

Thunderpussy

There are times I feel, yes a great megalomaniac hell bent on taking over the world
Would be cool. {[] Then as you point out they did that with DAD, and in fact it was
A little boring in places. So I'll put my trust in the Film makers and Producers
That they know what they're doing. )