There's not really such a thing as a one piece gun tp, even the military m24 sniper rifle can be field stripped, a lot of the sniper rifles used in films and put in case to conceal them are semi stripped with barrel detached etc. As for accuracy, that depends on the gun, the maintainance of the gun, ammo and of course the marksman.
And what ^ he said, interesting fact for you because I know you like them, some early scopes had Crosshairs made from spiders Web, they used it as it was less likely to break due to recoil or being knocked about. They used Web from a particular spider abundant on the north Yorkshire moors.
Thanks Chris, you see it so often in movies. I Wondered if it was a compromise of
Concealment v Accuracy. Very interesting about the spider web. -{
( I do love a bit of "Not a lot of people, Know that ! )
Sir Miles once pointed out, that expression comes from a Peter Sellers impression
Of Sir Michael. ) ( which I didn't know )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I didn't know that either! I'm sure sir miles is right, he usually is, I suppose when you've been around as long as he has you pick up a lot of info. I used to quite like the Michael pain nosey neighbour in the fast show, now not a lot of people know that. ;
It would be hoped that a decent assassin would use the best weapon for the job and strip it down accordingly.
I was assuming an assassin's rifle would have to be custom made to
Break down, to a convenient " brief case" size
Another show "Stella Street" was an Impressions show, a street full of celebs.
Like Sir Michael, and Sir Roger. I remember one episode when the local cleaning
Woman was Interviewed by " Blofeld" to keep his secret base clean. )
( I've never been able to find it on YouTube , to post here )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I was assuming an assassin's rifle would have to be custom made to
Break down, to a convenient " brief case" size
Another show "Stella Street" was an Impressions show, a street full of celebs.
Like Sir Michael, and Sir Roger. I remember one episode when the local cleaning
Woman was Interviewed by " Blofeld" to keep his secret base clean. )
( I've never been able to find it on YouTube , to post here )
Most if not all rifles break down into component parts. The trick is not to knock the scope or sights which should have been zeroed in previously.
Quite right.
In the movies you do however see the assassin assembling the rifle "click" the scope in place as the last piece, now there are some pretty spectacular quick-fix mounts nowadays, but you are still going to lose your perfect zero if you remove and then fix back your scope.
Another thing that the movie rifles quite often have is the screw in barrel, and I am talking about the kind where the barrel is either in two pieces or that the barrel screws in to the chamber when assembled. This is also going to screw up ('scuse the pun) your zero. With a quick detach barrel, the barrel and chamber should be single solid piece to maintain internal ballistic accuracy.
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
New toy, 7.62 Enfield , converted to a competition standard target rifle by Fultons of Bisley and has Parker Hale PH-5C sights, this gives me two Enfields the other being an AJ Parker cconversion.
ive just watched a WW2 movie ,and all the German soldiers who have the ERMA MP40 sub-machine gun (ie the classic Nazi machine gun) and they are all firing the weapon whilst holding the magazine ?? now im sure I read somewhere ,that if you did this the magazine would not sit square in the body and thus cause a jam ,but you see it all the time in all the films ,who Is right
In many cases with a lot of different external magazine-fed firearms, there is enough tolerance to allow the holding of the mag while firing the weapon with no malfunctions. It is still not recommended but users do it.
I do not have any information on either the MP-38 or MP-40 so I don't know what the factory recommended.
During range practice I have rested the bottom of the magazine of both my StG.58 and AR15's on my off hand while standing with no ill effect. I would not probably do this in a defensive situation holding the handguard instead.
Can anyone identify the gun this brave Nigerian terrorist tracker is holding?
To me this one looks like a shotgun. It seems like it's has cylinder like a revolver, but at the same time it looks like a magazine in front of the cylinder. That makes no sense??????
Can anyone identify the gun this brave Nigerian terrorist tracker is holding?
To me this one looks like a shotgun. It seems like it's has cylinder like a revolver, but at the same time it looks like a magazine in front of the cylinder. That makes no sense??????
Please explain
It certainly does look like a revolving cylinder, and given the shells she has in the ammo belt I'd assume it is a cartridge gun, I dont think that is a magazine?? where's the ejection port? And given the bore of barrel if guess she fires solid slugs... So this maybe a modified big game rifle. That's my guess anyway.
It's a great example of human ingenuity and spirit. Like the Jewish slave workers in the
Rocket factories, who's only means of fighting back. Was to urinate on the rockets Internal
Workings, so when they were to be fired, they'd fail -{
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Can anyone identify the gun this brave Nigerian terrorist tracker is holding?
To me this one looks like a shotgun. It seems like it's has cylinder like a revolver, but at the same time it looks like a magazine in front of the cylinder. That makes no sense??????
Please explain
It certainly does look like a revolving cylinder, and given the shells she has in the ammo belt I'd assume it is a cartridge gun, I dont think that is a magazine?? where's the ejection port? And given the bore of barrel if guess she fires solid slugs... So this maybe a modified big game rifle. That's my guess anyway.
She probably used it for antilope hunting before the war, so that makes sense.
I say this on another tread about these guns. These are home made guns. many home made guns in Africa. shotguns, rifles and pistols even. Peoples cannot afford to buy guns make their own.
The gun the anti terrorist is holding looks like a shotgun. these are to be used by hunters many times. the barrel will be a pipe from the gas. but the shot for hunting will be different to shotgun pellets. Some shotgun rounds with pellets will be used but it is normal to open the cartridge and take the pellets and make them into a ball with more lead if this is needed. the ball can then shoot bigger game like antelope. I think these are only short range because they pipe is smooth and the ball is off target before long. perhaps 50 to 100 meters if the shooter is lucky and the target big! the hunter has to use skill to get close to the animal before the animal see the hunter.
The old gun is still used also sometimes, even the flint lock from the 1800 times. but not much i think today.
The magazine and the other cylinder are to decorate the gun. the cylinders may be real and pulled by the hand to make three or even four shots. but this one does not look real to me but i cannot see it well enough to be sure.
To me this one looks like a shotgun. It seems like it's has cylinder like a revolver, but at the same time it looks like a magazine in front of the cylinder. That makes no sense??????
Please explain
It certainly does look like a revolving cylinder, and given the shells she has in the ammo belt I'd assume it is a cartridge gun, I dont think that is a magazine?? where's the ejection port? And given the bore of barrel if guess she fires solid slugs... So this maybe a modified big game rifle. That's my guess anyway.
She probably used it for antilope hunting before the war, so that makes sense.
Poor man's bipod - a lump of wood nailed in to keep it the right height when firing from a prone position.
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In response to the questions about takedown rifles, this is a Remington takedown that is easily disassembled and put back together, w/o tools...it also retains it's zero quite well...it's all in the machining and planning..
I use Warne rings for my long range rifles (I don't like leaving the scope on the rifle while I clean it) and they retain zero very well...
"I don't know if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or imbeciles who mean it."-Mark Twain
'Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.'- Benny Hill (1924-1992)
In response to the questions about takedown rifles, this is a Remington takedown that is easily disassembled and put back together, w/o tools...it also retains it's zero quite well...it's all in the machining and planning..
Oh yes! The Remington 700, The Gold Standard since 1962! Sweet!
Is that your rifle in the picture? If you grow tired of it, I'll be willing to give it a new home, that .35 Whelen is a bit harder to get fodder for, but I'm willing to compromise!
Those 700 Takedowns are a bit more rare than the normal version.
Now; if you look at that picture, you'll see that a real life take down rifle has at least 2 things that the movie rifles don't have: the chamber is one piece with the barrel and the barrel is attached, in stead of a fancy "clickety-click" -attachment, with a pretty long and thin threading. And even with an expensive custom set up like this, having scope mounted on a separate piece from the barrel, IMHO you can not retain sub MOA accuracy if you take your rifle down after sighting it in. That is why with modern rifles with interchangeable calibers or take down actions, the scope mount is in the piece with the barrel.
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
I wish it were my rifle....I'm a fan of the Remington 700...I have 3 of them in my gun safe...
Takedown rifles have been around for a long time. Winchester and Sharps both made takedowns in the Old West and I know that British gunmakers had several takedown rifles available in the 1800s..
"I don't know if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or imbeciles who mean it."-Mark Twain
'Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.'- Benny Hill (1924-1992)
A new trend of henchmen using unusual guns seems to be starting. Patrice had a full automatic pistol with a very high capasity magazine in the PTS of SF. Hinx used his double-decker pistol (technical term :v).
If the trend continues and becomes a tradition, does anyone have suggestions for other weird or unusual weapons?
Well if it counts, Renard used a P90 which was pretty high-tech at the time and almost has a sci-fi look to it.
Five-seveN would also be nice.
Not exactly new, but the Trejo Machine Pistol could work.
An updated version of the old Welrod pistol for Bond would be nice.
Desert Eagles have yet to appear in a Bond movie.
Stumped, "passing the shoe" to another member.
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And what ^ he said, interesting fact for you because I know you like them, some early scopes had Crosshairs made from spiders Web, they used it as it was less likely to break due to recoil or being knocked about. They used Web from a particular spider abundant on the north Yorkshire moors.
Concealment v Accuracy.
( I do love a bit of "Not a lot of people, Know that ! )
Sir Miles once pointed out, that expression comes from a Peter Sellers impression
Of Sir Michael.
It would be hoped that a decent assassin would use the best weapon for the job and strip it down accordingly.
Break down, to a convenient " brief case" size
Another show "Stella Street" was an Impressions show, a street full of celebs.
Like Sir Michael, and Sir Roger. I remember one episode when the local cleaning
Woman was Interviewed by " Blofeld" to keep his secret base clean.
( I've never been able to find it on YouTube , to post here )
Quite right.
In the movies you do however see the assassin assembling the rifle "click" the scope in place as the last piece, now there are some pretty spectacular quick-fix mounts nowadays, but you are still going to lose your perfect zero if you remove and then fix back your scope.
Another thing that the movie rifles quite often have is the screw in barrel, and I am talking about the kind where the barrel is either in two pieces or that the barrel screws in to the chamber when assembled. This is also going to screw up ('scuse the pun) your zero. With a quick detach barrel, the barrel and chamber should be single solid piece to maintain internal ballistic accuracy.
-Mr Arlington Beech
I do not have any information on either the MP-38 or MP-40 so I don't know what the factory recommended.
During range practice I have rested the bottom of the magazine of both my StG.58 and AR15's on my off hand while standing with no ill effect. I would not probably do this in a defensive situation holding the handguard instead.
I think that's the joke Moonraker space gun MG is building for Higgy...
To me this one looks like a shotgun. It seems like it's has cylinder like a revolver, but at the same time it looks like a magazine in front of the cylinder. That makes no sense??????
Please explain
Other guns ?
Rocket factories, who's only means of fighting back. Was to urinate on the rockets Internal
Workings, so when they were to be fired, they'd fail -{
She probably used it for antilope hunting before the war, so that makes sense.
The gun the anti terrorist is holding looks like a shotgun. these are to be used by hunters many times. the barrel will be a pipe from the gas. but the shot for hunting will be different to shotgun pellets. Some shotgun rounds with pellets will be used but it is normal to open the cartridge and take the pellets and make them into a ball with more lead if this is needed. the ball can then shoot bigger game like antelope. I think these are only short range because they pipe is smooth and the ball is off target before long. perhaps 50 to 100 meters if the shooter is lucky and the target big! the hunter has to use skill to get close to the animal before the animal see the hunter.
The old gun is still used also sometimes, even the flint lock from the 1800 times. but not much i think today.
The magazine and the other cylinder are to decorate the gun. the cylinders may be real and pulled by the hand to make three or even four shots. but this one does not look real to me but i cannot see it well enough to be sure.
Poor man's bipod - a lump of wood nailed in to keep it the right height when firing from a prone position.
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I use Warne rings for my long range rifles (I don't like leaving the scope on the rifle while I clean it) and they retain zero very well...
'Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.'- Benny Hill (1924-1992)
Oh yes! The Remington 700, The Gold Standard since 1962! Sweet!
Is that your rifle in the picture? If you grow tired of it, I'll be willing to give it a new home, that .35 Whelen is a bit harder to get fodder for, but I'm willing to compromise!
Those 700 Takedowns are a bit more rare than the normal version.
Now; if you look at that picture, you'll see that a real life take down rifle has at least 2 things that the movie rifles don't have: the chamber is one piece with the barrel and the barrel is attached, in stead of a fancy "clickety-click" -attachment, with a pretty long and thin threading. And even with an expensive custom set up like this, having scope mounted on a separate piece from the barrel, IMHO you can not retain sub MOA accuracy if you take your rifle down after sighting it in. That is why with modern rifles with interchangeable calibers or take down actions, the scope mount is in the piece with the barrel.
-Mr Arlington Beech
Takedown rifles have been around for a long time. Winchester and Sharps both made takedowns in the Old West and I know that British gunmakers had several takedown rifles available in the 1800s..
'Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.'- Benny Hill (1924-1992)
If the trend continues and becomes a tradition, does anyone have suggestions for other weird or unusual weapons?
Five-seveN would also be nice.
Not exactly new, but the Trejo Machine Pistol could work.
An updated version of the old Welrod pistol for Bond would be nice.
Desert Eagles have yet to appear in a Bond movie.
Stumped, "passing the shoe" to another member.
This gun is made for shooting around corners!